All Posts by FikusOfAhazi

Originally posted by kobie173

Originally posted by fordzilla

Originally posted by Moaky07

 

 

I am sure some of the "vets" around here do indeed support him, and enjoy his broadcasts.

Folks not stomping their feet over the "precious" have a tendacy to look at him as a "restraining order waiting to happen".

You can use any justification you wish...the bottom line is a game was modified just under 3 years ago, and some folks are still congregating around here over it.

I dont care what ya say, Dr Phil would have a field day with some of the "vets" around here...once he stopped laughing at the scenario, and realized folks still havent let go.

I tell ya what...go to any counseling for a few sessions. Be honest about your activities, and those you associate with. The RLMMO site, wildcats direct threat to open a webpage if you guys didnt get the precious back, and any of the other numerous things that have transpired the past 3 yrs.

I say several of the folks around here would end up commited for a duration of treatment...if not outright put into a straight-jacket/padded-room combo...waiting for the next electro-shock therapy clinic to have an opening.

 

rampant fanboism at its finest.  enjoy your broken failure of a game/company. the rest of us will enjoy reality. the more i see of the inner workings of the typical fanboi mind the more i see who really has something to get over.

Typical. Anyone who does not agree with the so-called "vets" and thinks that the three-year whinefest has run its course is a "fanboi." Gotcha.
 

Must be pretty interesting to see the world completely in black and white,"vet" and "fanboi."

So what exactly do you disagree with the "vets" on? (other than swg shutting down at a certain time)
 

I kind of liked it. I was expecting something awful though.

Originally posted by ArcAngel3

Originally posted by FikusOfAhazi

ITs is ALWAYS better to shut the game down rather than destroy a persistant world. Always. (IMO)

 

Well at least one person seems to suggest that SOE had only 2 options around NGE time: A) shut the game down, of (B) mislead people about plans for the game and then spring a broken revamp on them that invalidated all of their progress.

The argument is that B is preferable because hey, at least it keeps the game running.

One of many problems with this kind of thinking is that there were never only these two options.  For example, lets take a look at a former SOE developers perspective:

"I wish at the very least we'd have been open and honest. Like, for example, told you, "Hey, you will probably hate this, but here's what it is."

Automatically canceling all existing account billing, then giving them all a free month of NGE, would have sent the message that the old game was going, the new game was coming, and that pissing on you and telling you it was raining not only wouldn't fool you, but would insult you, too. " (Jeff Freeman)

What I believe Jeff is suggesting here, is that if SOE was determined to completely revamp the game, they should have at the very least been open and honest with people that one game was ending and another one was beginning.  Close down the current game, with plenty of notice, and give people a free months time in the new one.  Even if SOE chose to do the NGE, they could have been ethical about it, but they weren't.

Now let's look at an option that would have been even more preferable to most players.  Just stick with the original game system and fix the bugs and issues as promised.

The whole idea that SOE had only 2 options: shut the game down, or do exactly what they did to everyone, is simply false.  It's not an accurate reflection of reality at all.

I agree with you 100%. If SOE would have done what Mr. Freeman suggested..we would all probably be happily playing EQ2 or Vanguard right now and looking forward to the Agency and the DC mmo.
 

ITs is ALWAYS better to shut the game down rather than destroy a persistant world. Always. (IMO)

Originally posted by Obraik

Originally posted by FikusOfAhazi

Originally posted by Obraik

Originally posted by FikusOfAhazi

Wouldnt SOE employees get in trouble from LA for leaking unannounced info? Just asking..I have no idea how that stuff works.

 

LucasArts were part of the panels, they would have been there when Blixtev said that.

Oh i didnt know it was said so everyone could hear..thought it was something "off the record". Why arent any of the gaming media running with it then?

I have no idea when it was said, I wasn't there.  If it was said at the panel, then LA would have known it was said and would have had the chance to correct/interject it

Hmm ..maybe someone should post on the Bioware boards that a dude at SOE is spilling info on one of their games. Could be fun.

Originally posted by Obraik

Originally posted by FikusOfAhazi

Wouldnt SOE employees get in trouble from LA for leaking unannounced info? Just asking..I have no idea how that stuff works.

 

LucasArts were part of the panels, they would have been there when Blixtev said that.

Oh i didnt know it was said so everyone could hear..thought it was something "off the record". Why arent any of the gaming media running with it then?

Wouldnt SOE employees get in trouble from LA for leaking unannounced info? Just asking..I have no idea how that stuff works.

Originally posted by hubertgrove

Towards the end of my Jedi grind, I used to kill Bolmas or Bols on the wild hills of Dantoine's far north. I used to have the map superimposed over the actual gameplay so i could see exactly what was going on. I would also play in the dark so I could concentrate on the screen. One dark night, I was thrashing away at the cows when i saw a burning red dot in the distance. 'Bounty hunting scum!', I said immediately. I triggered my emergency food button and hopped on my Barc. Off I speeded into the darkness. He followed. I must have gone back and forth across Dantoine about twice. Still the red dot pursued me. At last, tiring of it all, I got off the bike, creanked up my lightsaber and screamed into the night; 'Enough running! Face me!'. It was then i realised I had been running away from the reflection of my cigarette in the screen.

LMAO!

Originally posted by ghettobooste

Originally posted by FikusOfAhazi

Originally posted by ghettobooste

Personally, I think LOTRO is one of the best MMORPGs of all time.  The game is much more complex than pepole give it credit.  My Burglar has so many skills I really have to concentrate on what I am doing to play him well.

But there are a couple things I really don't like, the Main Bar in the UI...  why, for the love of the gods, can't they make that damn thing moveable??  It is right there, smack dab in the middle of everything, I just can't build a balanced looking UI around it the way I like.  

The other thing that bugs me are some low res textures that are just really ugly, like the green moss on rocks in Evendim.  You'll be galloping along in absolute amazment at the beautiful scene... and bam some horrible looking giant rock with this wanna be green moss looking crap rears its ugly polygons and ruins it all.  Yes, I run it on high res.  Those rocks suck!
 

 

try pressing  control and / at the same time. should let you move things around.

I know that, the main bar is immoveable though.  Everything else about the UI is good.  Just that GD main bar sucks.
 

Ok I see what your saying now..my bad.

Originally posted by ghettobooste

Personally, I think LOTRO is one of the best MMORPGs of all time.  The game is much more complex than pepole give it credit.  My Burglar has so many skills I really have to concentrate on what I am doing to play him well.

But there are a couple things I really don't like, the Main Bar in the UI...  why, for the love of the gods, can't they make that damn thing moveable??  It is right there, smack dab in the middle of everything, I just can't build a balanced looking UI around it the way I like.  

The other thing that bugs me are some low res textures that are just really ugly, like the green moss on rocks in Evendim.  You'll be galloping along in absolute amazment at the beautiful scene... and bam some horrible looking giant rock with this wanna be green moss looking crap rears its ugly polygons and ruins it all.  Yes, I run it on high res.  Those rocks suck!
 

try pressing  control and / at the same time. should let you move things around.

Originally posted by Fishermage

 

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Originally posted by MikeMB

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Originally posted by Thunderous

 

I imagine the backlash to the changes would have been a lot less harsh if the NGE was actually a good game.  The problem is you replaced a good game with a lot of bugs with a really BAD game with a lot of bugs.
It never really made sense. 
If the NGE had been a big improvement over Pre-CU, or even slightly worse than the CU, people wouldn't have been as mad.  SOE threw out a clunker with the NGE, it's STILL a clunker 3 years later.
No expansion.
No collision.
No capital ships.
More broken promises than anything else.  It's amazing people still pay to play this game.

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Lets go over all 3.
No Expansions, why no Expansions? If you recall SOE did plan to do one of 3 Expansions back after the NGE launched. They did two Q&A's with the Players asking what one out of 3 Expansions the Players wanted. One was a GCW Expansion, another was a "Dark and Light" Expansion and lastly one so stupid even this "SOE fanboi" will say it was a stupid idea.
Still they sat down talked to the Players about all 3 and then asked if they wanted one of those 3 or if the Players wanted them to fix the game. Guess what one won?
So they went about fixing the game rather then doing an Expansion to SWG. Not only that look at how much flack SOE or hell anyone gets from doing an Expansion now. You get tons of Players screaming how they should fix the core game rather then do an Expansion. Hell I love seeing people on the WoW forums posting this whole love/hate thing with Expansions. They want new content, yet they don't want an Expansion. And Blizzard did get flack over BC something that did make me laugh...
Still that's why we didn't see an Expansion to SWG, they wanted to do one at first and yeah why do a new one when the Player Base is smaller. And chances are you'd have the same people screaming to fix the Core Game.
Collision, you can blame Koster and his Dev's for this. Few things many people don't know about but Collision along with Swiming was going to be something that "was" going to be in SWG. Well going to have to give a little history here, and I believe the person that told me this.
SWG in Alpha was more NGE like rather then Pre-CU like, however Koster and his team got that game scraped, I can go off on the rumors behind who wanted the Alpha game gone. Still wanna know why the Pre-CU was so bad at Beta and Launch? It was a whole new game that they came up with in a few months, not the game they worked on for a few years.
Anyway in order to meet the launch date, Koster and his team dropped some of that content and never even put the code for that in the game. Even if they did one thing many Vets tend to forget is that SWG has the most code out of any MMO on the market. Every Dev Team and even the guys working on the EMU have stated how hard the game is to work on.
So for the most part the Pre-CU game and engine isn't one that supports a third axis. If they wanted to do this, a whole new Engine is needed. Tell the truth I would support SOE ditching the games Engine and putting a new one in. Koster is well known for making hard to work on games, took the UO Dev's years to even know how to put new Artwork and items in. And UO is another Koster title...
As for Capital Ships dear god NO!
Ok know how hard it is to run a POB? You need the Pilot and Gunners on Vent or Voicechat. You need people to talk to you and tell you what's coming in and from where. Believe me that's why you have POB Crews going out and training themselfs all the time. Now how do you think a Crew would do without Voicechat? Believe me it takes some time to type something out, and in Space you need to tell the Pilot or other gunners where that guy in the A-Wing just went too.
You'd have a big clusterf##k in no time with something like a Player Run ISD, or even a Corvette.
Also then you have to take Space and Lag into mind here...
First things first look at Space Zone's like Naboo, Kash and what not. Those zone's where made with the idea in mind that people would be flying Fighters and smaller POB's in them. Really they are way too small for even a Corvette. Hell an ISD would take up a good part of the Space Zone...
Now think of what it would be like if you had 5 Corvettes and an ISD all loaded into the Naboo System?
The lag would be "bad" not just "bad" but really friggen bad. See look at how much crap you have running around in one of the main systems, you have NPC Fighters. You have Asteroids and what not flying around as well. That's why in Deep Space you have next to nothing in it. Also well look at Deep Space, you can for the most part see where the ISD is at all times in it.
Not only that but why even put them in?
Star Wars was more about Dogfighting rather then Capital Ships duking it out. Granted you have a few parts in the Movies and Books showing big Capital Ships blasting at one another. But Star Wars was more about the whole Pilot in his one man fighter. Think World War 2, you have Dogfighting going on with X-Wings and TIE's, you have ships like the Falcon acting as your Heavy Bombers...
And look how the Player Base is with Space. Granted you have people like myself who are up in Space more then the ground. Most people however go up a few times, get bored or don't like Space and stay on the ground. Oh granted it would be cool for that really big Imp Guild to have their own ISD, but well how many times would they use it?
Really if you want Capital Ships (and yes I even said this back in 2005) go with Star Trek. I think Star Wars was much more about your Pilot flying his X-Wing rather then someone in a Capital Ship. Where as Star Trek was more about your Capital Ship.

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This is the first I have ever heard about the game changing like that pre-launch. Sorry, not buying it.

 

Secondly, all you excuses for why collsion and capital ships do not justify LYING about it. That's the point, not whether or not they go with Star Wars galaxies or not. When they laucnhed the NGE, they promised collision. Now, they either knew at thetime they would not be able to do it, or they thought they could. If they thought they could, then they were incompetent, being as they had been working with this code for months they should have known well enough to not make false promises.

No, I think they either lied, or, they fully intended to, COULD do so and CAN do so, but they are lying about why they don't. The real reason is: no money. That dried up precisely due to the NGE, and SONY's general cheapness. Capital ships -- same thing. They could do it, they can do it, but they have no budget for it due to their failure.

As to the no expansion thing; If you give me a broken game, and ask me whether I should add to a broken game or fix it, of course I'll say fix it. They SHOULD HAVE DONE BOTH. Again, they did not. Why? See above.
 

This was from an e-mail from someone to CBS.

"This type of business ethic continues at SOE because of their CEO, John Smedley. Little does the public know, that Star Wars Galaxies was scrapped in 2002 and redeveloped in 14 months from the ground up. In a meeting, they asked how they could get away with releasing such an unfinished product. John Smedley stated that people will buy it because it has a Star Wars name on it - and then laughed as they said they would complete the retail product (which consumers have already paid $49.99 for) with approximately 2 years of subscription revenue."

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/12/20/tech/gamecore/main1146894_page5.shtml

Smed;s response (to the e-mail, not about swg being scrapped) here

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/02/21/tech/gamecore/main1335511.shtml


 

Originally posted by Leasa

The worst thing that happened to me was when I logged in and realized that my master Doc was no longer able to craft her healing supplies. 

 I was all about crafting !!! I got so mad I raised my skirt  and mooned the screen.  As luck would have it my  daughter walked in with one of her friends and saw me. 

 

LOL.

Isnt there scrolls that scholars make to reduce threat for hunters?

Originally posted by ArjunThakur

I was the only pre-FRS Jedi Master, and only on the QA server because I had access to level my skills.  I actually was a light and dark Master at the same time lol.  Oh, at it was broken before the FRS anyway, broken meaning it was not even possible to unlock Master.

Do you know why the master box for jedi wasnt available pre-pub 9? What was the master box like on the QA server? Was it pretty sweet or not much different from Guardian 4-4-4-4?

Originally posted by ArcAngel3

Originally posted by FikusOfAhazi

When the FRS was still in game, you could "fightclub" to get the rank of Master. There was no way to do it legitamately.

 

Hey Fickus, thx for the response.  Pardon my ignorance, but would you mind clarifying the difference between "fighclubbing" and earning the rank legitimately?  I'm just not sure what you mean.

Also, if I remember right, the FRS was out of the game long before the NGE, is that correct?

Basically, you just got a bunch of Jedi from the opposite faction( or BH's), and they let you kill them till you get rank. Then you let them kill you. The amount of XP needed to get master and the rate at which XP decayed pretty much required every person on the server to be a jedi pvp'ing in the FRS every night lol. There was just no possible way to do it if i remember correctly..it was just too much XP and it decayed too fast. Its been along time though so Im sure someone else could explain it alot better.

And yes..the FRS went bye-bye with the CU.

When the FRS was still in game, you could "fightclub" to get the rank of Master. There was no way to do it legitamately.

This looks pretty nice.

Originally posted by Moaky07

Does NGE = EQ?

 

No it doesnt...so who was it being the "dick" Fiskus?

 

I think you got that title all to yourself.

I fully admit that I'm a dick though:)

Originally posted by Moaky07

Originally posted by FikusOfAhazi

Originally posted by Moaky07

Originally posted by wolfmann

Hmm, as I remember it SWG meant Action AND Uncle Owen... And Oola and Lando and whatever you wanted to be.

Now? you got nothing.. Only whack-a-mole on speed, and they try to say it's Star Wars, like Star Wars was just about swinging a glowbat like a junkie high on speed would.

 

 

Reading those "things" from FOHguild tho I'm not surprised that the game got messed up... Since Smeddler himself hung out at that place and seemed to think highly of those whiners opinion. And all FOH is about is the gunrunnin/glowbat running whack-a-mole on speed...

Any other game mechanics for other playstyle is crap and should not and never be added to any game...to them.

 

You couldnt be more off if ya tried to be.

Polished content...and lots of it is what the folks over there like. They also like the raiding game...something that is OK in my book...as long as it isnt total focus of game. The whack attack PVP stuff had a different source for fueling it.

Not being a fan of sims games doesnt somehow magically make someone an NGE fan...and yet you guys keep spouting off about it.

No one was calling for Uncle Owen in a cantina. Did ya bother to read? Or is it beyond your level of comprehension? I know...it is cause you dont wanna accept more people dont agree with you guys about pre-whatever than do.

Like I said, there are plenty of SW fans, besides the ones who carry on about "we are the vets" or "we deserve this and that". You guys somehow think you arent a SW fan if you didnt like the "precious".

ANd to the person that used the NGE chit again on me...FO. I mean seri