Originally posted by Soki123

You played L2 and say Aion is grindy?

LOL i was thinkin the same thing. Aion almost played your character for you, compared to L2.

I must say, i think anyone who registered for Beta is probably getting included in this number. Technically, they are a registered account even if they did not pre-prder.

None-the-less, I believe this game will do well. If nothing else, it is well made and as sad as that sounds, its becoming all-too rare.

There are several probel with cities in most mmorpgs, imho:

1. No Sprawl
2. Poor building Scale
3. Poor texture Scale
4. the 'Bank and AH Hub' mentality
5. Not enough denizens

Good for her!

No, Thanks.

I probably have everyone beat here, Playing Ultima V because I loved Ultima IV as a kid and i never got the chance the follow-up.

Assasin's Creed is one of hte best games out there for really capturing the look and feel, the span and scale of a real human city outside the modern timeframe. I wish more games would capture this...a city should not be a feature in a map zone...it really should be the whole map zone! They are huge!

You can travel to everything you see in this Image. Clearly this is possible in a game.

So I guess, why are cities always so lacking in fantasy MMORPGs?? They are a small gathering point for players but not a place to actually PLAY, if you understand me. Sure, if can be a quest hub..but can't it also be a combat zone for quests? 

The City of Jeuno in FFXI really had the visual scale down.

It 'felt' like a city...buildiung scale was pretty accurate and made everything feel big and impressive. However, it's total area was reletively small and it never felt like a sprawling city like you see above (Assassin's Creeed Screenshot). It wasn't so large that you could get a quest in the Affluent area to steal back some jewelery from theives in the pesants quater, 4 miles away.

In fairness, I cannot think of any other game off the top of my head that really captured look, feel, visual scale and size of a historic city like Assassin's Creed. Does anyone else feel like we should be seeing this kind of effort put into the cities of hte mmorpg's we play? are we being shorted? Would they just become sprawling annoyances? Share your thoughts, while I leave you with a few, cool pix of some AC city shots.

My first RPG was Ultima IV...a game where your ultimate goal wasnt to kill a main, evil character, but to become a paragon of humanity. This was achieved through your actions, great and small.

I was looking forward to this game, where it was basically Ultima IV, en masse.

i guess you can never go home again.

Originally posted by CzechGuy

The soul system at its core is actually pretty awesome. 8 different  Souls in 4 different archtypes with varying skills contained in each soul that can be mixed and matched allows a player to really build something unqiue that few others will have exactly.

 

BUT Trion ruined it in the end. They gave everyone the ability to own all 8 souls per archtype at the same time. While that sounds cool it means that a player doesnt actually have to commit to anything or make any real choices. Character development is a lie. To make it worse Trion also gave players the ability to save 4 builds at once that can be switched at the flick of a button. Want that FOTW build or need to drop a soul because it got nerfed? Dont worry just respec and save todays most OP build! This game screams "have your cake and eat it too."

 

This is basically class anarchy. Without rules and structure anything will become a mess. The negatives will always outweigh any positives. In all walks of life. IT NEVER WORKS OUT.

Its like playing a game of monopoly but throwing out the rules, letting everyone be the car, giving everyone a piece of every property, and when you pass go you get a Ecto-cooler juicebox with oreos and everyone is a winner!

 

The ability to create a unique class is mostly an illusion in Rift. In the end there are really only 4 classes in this game. Its going to be very apparent to everyone else soon enough once the honeymoon period ends and they realize the reality is that almost everyone is the same 4 things.

Like the old saying goes,"When everyone is special. No one is."

 

 

SWG used to have like 54 job classes, each with a set of skills. You could mix em up, be mostly a bounty hunter and carbiner with some Medic. It was fun...you could change your skills as you saw fit....and it didn't hurt the game.

Anyway, even if they didn't let you have all souls, people would just roll alts to play new soul configurations. If its the same person pushing the mouse, please tell me what the real difference is here? By all means, limit yourself to your first three souls, don't let me stop you from having 'honest character development'....just don't get pissed at me for wanting to sample all the game has to offer without having a ton of frickin alts :-)

By your line of thinking, every game should have one tank class, one healer class and thats it. Because that the end of the day, you either inflict damage, heal damage or some combination thereof....and since everyone, if given the choice, will boil down to clone-configurations, why bother with choice. 

Sorry, man, but this line of thinking is whats wrong with the country....'since we know what you are going to do anyway, we are going to deprive you of coice.' Thanks, but I can think for myself and enjoy the ability to be flexible and play how I feel at any given point in time.

At the end of the day, it's just a game and it really comes down to entertainment and what that means to each person. There is NOTHING meaningful here expect that, while you play it, hopefully you are entertained. If placing arbitrary limits of choice upon yourself increases your fun-factor, go nuts, man.

However, if placing Arbitrary limits of choice on everyone else increases your fun factor...then go into politics.

(Sure, if you play soul arrangements that you simply enjoy, there will be Elites who complain that you do not have the 'perfect' build and not let you into their group....but when you are just trying to kick back and have some fun, do you really need that crap?)

...until February 24th and my toon won't get wiped!

Anyone else having the same problem?

Originally posted by skoupidi

Originally posted by spankybus

Originally posted by nblitz

Originally posted by Teala

I have watched my share of Tera vids, ones like this,  and I cannot get past the the eastern style art and constant pukey-cuteseyness.   Also females characters running around in teddies, panties and pumps?   Then if you watch you see the mobs take for ever to kill.   That in itself is just another grind.    No thank you.

Of course elites take forever to kill on your own, like in the vid you linked.

Thank you for letting us know you will not be playing TERA.

Shall we throw a party for you or do you want us to be sad?

Anything else you don't like that you want to share with us?

 

"Saucer of Milk, Table Two /hiss"

She wasn't rude, so why are you? /shrug

Seriously, its a good thing that one can play the game with only one hand and a mouse...cuz with all those porn-star cutsy chicks in high heels and huge boobs, a lot of nerds will be needing that other hand free. I know sex sells, but damn..lol

There is no way to play tera with one hand.

Sir, you have single-handedly crushed the hopes and dreams of nerds the world over! 

Originally posted by nblitz

Originally posted by Teala

I have watched my share of Tera vids, ones like this,  and I cannot get past the the eastern style art and constant pukey-cuteseyness.   Also females characters running around in teddies, panties and pumps?   Then if you watch you see the mobs take for ever to kill.   That in itself is just another grind.    No thank you.

Of course elites take forever to kill on your own, like in the vid you linked.

Thank you for letting us know you will not be playing TERA.

Shall we throw a party for you or do you want us to be sad?

Anything else you don't like that you want to share with us?

 

"Saucer of Milk, Table Two /hiss"

She wasn't rude, so why are you? /shrug

Seriously, its a good thing that one can play the game with only one hand and a mouse...cuz with all those porn-star cutsy chicks in high heels and huge boobs, a lot of nerds will be needing that other hand free. I know sex sells, but damn..lol

Originally posted by judex99

Originally posted by Yamota

Use WOMEN models for ***** sake! Like this:

I dont think is a culture thing, i mean which MMO actually uses female chars like that? ill answer you ... none

Maybe one race in a game can use something near to that , but in that case Tera uses it also with Aman female, just to point it out here is my char in Rift beta, even behind her you can see a warrior model and is still not very "musculated":

 

I gotta say the Feiries in RIFT are just plain Fugly....Lettuce wings, Osteoperosis and a seriously Eff'ed up hairdo

RIFT is different because its a solid game that is not set in Azeroth. I like WoW, but I am just kind of tired of the lore...i know the world too well, been seeing those environments for years.

I want a game that is as solid and well made with a different story, different environments, just different.

This is why we who read sci-fi or fantasy books don't stop after one book....sure then next book will probably have more magic, more elves, more swords....but thats why we read it....however, it is expected the underlying story is the same.

Now, if you are someone who pays no attention to these aspects of a game, hten yea, this will simply feel like more of the same.

Stop. Read the stories. adsorb the lore. Take in the new world. Focus on the new, not the same.

I have developed with Cryengine 2 before, so I have some concerned regardig its use for an MMORPG.

Made some serios games with it, but all FPS. It's just so horribly unoptimized.

Maye they are using '2.5' ...Warhead's Version. it was a bit cleaner.

Ah, that was it. Thanks, Mates! it was annoying the hell out of my that i could not remember its name!

Originally posted by Byrhofen

Vanguard perhaps? I know you could chop tree's down in that and get wood form them, not sure about the farming and watching it grow though.

nope, def. not vangaurd. I played that.

this was just a video i saw, it showed people farming wood by chopping trees, then shows someone planting seeds in a small field...then it did a time-lapse thing where you could literally watch the plants grow.

Originally posted by Dragim

Xsyon maybe?  Sounds right, but then again I don't know much about Xsyon, but it does look cool.

i don't think this is it. I checked youtube for some crafting games and its graphics do not look like what i remember. I am kicking mself for ot remembering what game it was...

a video circulating about Farming, where people were actually getting wood from chopping down real trees, and farmers would see there crows grow, etc. I saw a video for this awhile ago and cannot remember what game it was.

I wanna say it was TERA cuz i think the farmer chick had on heels, ut i just cannot remember

Originally posted by watchawatcha

I'm keeping mine and completely disagree with the OP on the graphics comment.  There's no debate, seeing is believing on that subject.

/signed

given the obsurd nature of his comments about the graphics and how few posts he has...i smell some viral marketing.

Keeping mine and signing up for the 6month deal. after 6 months...if i am still playing, i will do it again, if not...it dies.

So far/ so good