Originally posted by Pelaaja

Wow, 2 different persons decided to take their accounts into use and report about the exact same thing. And it happened today. I feel special, because I have lived to see this happen.

I don't know what is your intention, but go away.

An old saying from the boards: An obvious troll is obvious. (you just have to double it)

 

 

Normally I'd skip posting, but post count says 1 for both... The only positive thing I see in those posts is that it  will get some people to change their password for a more secure one and make people aware about not going to unsecure website and input their login password.
 

EvE

WoW

DaoC

PlanetSide

Fury

All have better PvP, more content, less bugs and were more fun to play. What WAR has to offer you is more bugs, more imbalance, more marketing spinoff... And sometimes they charge you more LOL (Remember the double charges of september).

And the problem was...

Most of them were chinese gold farmers... But now with the power of google and forums, the botting software is soo easy to acquire regular players now use it.

Which brings me to the second point, NCSoft wasn't prepared to meet such popularity, because there was so many players at launch they had barely time to concentrate on bots. So most people nowadays feel invincible and run bots software.

This might be a bigger problem than it seems, on one side if NCSoft release a "super patch" and get rid of bots, all those players that have already botted their way up will not be able to use software and start playing, and will not get banned. It's going to take some time before AH inflation goes back to normal.

The last issue is if NCSoft doesn't come up with the "super patch" and start banning bots at an alarming rate, they gonna get negative community forums, which ain't good either...

Honestly I wouldn't like to be in the shoes of the manager right now

Originally posted by Phioku

I think this 1.3.2 Patch is the best patch since launch. Which many people will agree on. Why did it take so long for them to have it be like this. Ask GOD. Even I don't know why it took them to realize Performance is the issue from the start. Polishing the character classes should be the next agenda on recuperating a MMO that should have class balance in a way for Even Play. Over Powered Classes should be equally buffed or something cause right now Destruction is ruling on all Servers.  Example is the Ravage Attack Chosens have which Knights of the Blazing Sun don't even have. The Shadow Warriors still need some major Buffs compared to its Squig Herder Counterpart which is so Overpowered compared to the Shadow Warriors. Atleast make the Shadow Warriors stronger in a way Squig Herders are not. Squig Herders got a longer range than Shadow Warriors. What happened to the Warrior Priest? Dual Wielded Disciple of Khaines in which Warrior Priest can only dual wield a book and hammer?  Atleast give the Warrior Priest a option to wield a Flail!!!! I can keep running on how Overpowered Destruction Characters got and  keep going but nahhhh. I know I will try to get shot down for this one. But yeah "EVEN THE CLASSES OUT IN OTHER WORDS"........

Whatever you're smoking I want in man.

Originally posted by Riceman

Is there crafting in WAR? If so, how is it?

My wife and I are looking around for a new MMO, and we want a game where it's possible to do multiple things (PvP, PvE, crafting, etc.) in case we get bored of one thing.

I thought this was another sarcastic post... But then I saw you asked a very good question.

My answer is this, there is nothing in WAR that you can't do better in any other MMO. That said the only strongest point to WAR is PvP and it is limited to Tier 1&2. If you're looking for a game to play for 1-3 months go ahead you might have some fun.

Otherwise: Vanguard, WoW, EQ2, CoH, Eve, AoC, Aion are mmo that have multiple things to do. Mileage may vary but in any case any of those games have way better elements.

Basically what Tribalsoul said.

-You need PvE gear to complete the siege PQ.

-You need PvE gear to acquire the necessary WARDS to complete the PQ.

-You can get your Dark Promise set in a matter of 2-3 weeks with the right guild and friends, the PvP sets will take you a while.

Basically Mythic tried to force people into doing PvE as well as PvP, but since the PvE suck so much in this game, most people will tell you, you can get everything in PvP, that's because they either play on a server that never pushed to sieges. So yeah for ORVR you can use the regular pvp gear and grind your way up.

This is probably the best PR Mythic could have done on this. If you aren't a noob to mmo's you'll easily see through this.

-Most MMO that do the same thing do it generally when they have nothing to lose.

-T1 is sadly not representative of the game

-Prolly the best way to clean up the game forums and get the new players to share positive experience

-This is a way to get the server loads up

-At this point in time nothing good can come out of this

Considering this game is outsourced to korea, and there have been many talks about going F2P over there, it wouldn't surprised me if Mythic/EA is using the US/EU version to beta test the whole thing.

This is probably the best PR Mythic could have done on this. If you aren't a noob to mmo's you'll easily see through this.

-Most MMO that do the same thing do it generally when they have nothing to lose.

-T1 is sadly not representative of the game

-Prolly the best way to clean up the game forums and get the new players to share positive experience

-This is a way to get the server loads up

-At this point in time nothing good can come out of this

Considering this game is outsourced to korea, and there have been many talks about going F2P over there, it wouldn't surprised me if Mythic/EA is using the US/EU version to beta test the whole thing.

NCSoft part is the kicker, too bad the Hitler part is too long and that we've seen it in hundreds mmo forums now.

Originally posted by RendRegen

...do you think WAR will see a rise in subs as players return from (another?) sinking ship? Or do you think players will try to forget about both games and are looking for the Next Big Thing(tm)?

Funny... WAR is done, it"s just dying slowly. Aion might crash too, but it's way too soon to know. And even if all the newly released mmo would crash tomorrow most players would either return to WoW/EQ/EvE or move to the next big thing.

WAR had over 60 servers, Capital cities were sieged so often at one point they had to introduce a timer on fort to reduce city sieges. And now there is so little people on the servers that they had to remove the forts so people siege the city instead of closing the remaining 6 NA servers into 1 or 2.

Originally posted by MrcdesOwnr

Originally posted by Amarok44

It looks like it's too late for Mythic to learn how to manage a community. Honestly they're absolutely hopeless when it comes to these "state of the game" letters. When there's a depth of animosity as powerful as there is for this game you really shouldn't be laying /sit and /stand emotes as the top new feature for a new patch. They've paraded silly little changes like that in many of the state of the game type letters in the past, all it does is make them look unable to provide any direction for the game going forward. It makes them look like clowns frankly.

That said, as someone who has been a firm critic of WAR in the past, I would say this is the first time I've actually felt a glimmer of confidence for the direction of the game. Community management issues aside this is the first patch (and subsequent developers letter) where some of the key issues that this game has have been fixed/addressed. The server and graphical performance issues have been massive stumbling blocks for this game, and I couldn't see this game ever getting of the mat without big improvements there. The game runs MUCH better now. Still not perfect, and I don't think the engine will ever be as smooth as something like WoW, but it's very playble. I've yet to see a massive RvR fight though so I can't comment on the truth to the server performance issue. The "underdog" system is likely not everyone's preferred option for fixing imbalanced realms, and alot will depend on the implimentation of the system, but it does at least appear to be a whole hearted attempt at fixing the problem.

I see alot of people saying Mythic should focus on action and not words. The anger of the community towards this game is justified and understandable, but I think there needs to be at least a modicum of acknowledgement that there are some of the big problems being undertaken in these two patches. Server/Client performance and realm imbalances were high on any critics list of WAR's biggest faults. I can't fathom anyone actually playing the game saying that there hasn't been improvements in this last patch.

That said there is a LONG way to go, and I'm still skeptical that WAR can pick itself up off the floor. As everyone knows it's bleeding subs, and for a game with so much group based content that's an enormous problem. The game is still too zerg friendly, and end game could stand to be more engaging.

Still I will give credit where it's due.

I couldn't have said in any better myself. That is the very reason why I keep parading the fact that this company lacks direction and is unequivocally ailing when it comes to decision making.

If I'm  the one calling the shots, especially after all that's happened and knowing full well that the game has seen an enormous player pop dwindle like it has, there is no way I'm coming out of the gate with:

Ability to walk and sit. (RP players rejoice!)

That just solidifies the fact that this development team (or those calling the shots) are completely out of touch with their community and what is truly important/needed in order for this game to recover and be successful.

Frankly, I'm fairly certain that while I would keep the change in the patch, it wouldn't be something worthy of listing as a key feature in 1.3.3 (and I'm an RPer for the most part). Whether or not your character has the ability to walk and sit just isn't a game-breaker or even game-changer IMHO. Can you imagine a conversation between two MMOers:

Player 1: "So, what happened to WAR, are you not playing that anymore? I was going to give it a try, but heard you left"

Player 2: "Yeah, I finally got frustrated enough to the point that I finally quit."

Player 1: "So what made you decide to leave?"

Player 2: "I could no longer deal with the fact that my character couldn't walk or sit! So, I said enough is enough and let my sub run out."

Player 1: "You mean, characters can't walk or sit in that game? I'm definitely not trying it then!"


I mean how absurd does that sound! Not once in all the forum posts on this or any other MMO game site (no matter how strong of an RP community) have I ever once seen someone list the inability to walk or sit as a con when listing pros and cons nor have I ever seen it in a review of a game. Matter of fact, I can't even recall that ability even being in a discussion, period.

 

 

Player 2: "I could no longer deal with the fact that my character couldn't walk or sit! So, I said enough is enough and let my sub run out."

LOL, or the new mailbox artwork, I wonder how many subs didn't cancel because of this. Really.

Originally posted by Anarchist420

Yeah this is pretty normal.  I have seen multiple MMO game companies keep my card on file over years of time.  So what?  If you are scared, don't use your CC online.  It's a pretty simple solution.

Scared? Well I just got 15$ stolen LOL, no seriously this wouldn't worry me at all. But after I got charged 15$ and the company charging me has no trace of the transaction... well this brings the point:"Should I worry or not?"

I guess this something mmorpg.com could make an editorial about, and what to do and not to do. This would be a lot more informative than many of the junk I've seen in the past 1-2 years. What happenned to the old mmorpg.com staff?

Thanks for the info, I wasn't aware of that about SOE nor NCSoft, do you have confirmation of this? I was under the impression those companies used something like E-Link or LinkPoint. Can you confirm this?

http://www.websiteforge.com/blog.html?m17:post=just-use-the-credit-card-on-file-credit-card-security

Anyway my experience now proves me one thing, before you jump ship one can simply call in and ask the information to be removed. Had I done this before hand I wouldn't be in this situation.

Even if you cancel the game, Mythic will keep your credit card credentials on files. This how people got charged after they left. What's worst is if you get charged after you cancel they have no record of the transaction.

Facts:

-10 days trial

-Purchased the game, register for 90 days (discount)

-30 days free

-90 days paid

-2x30 days for referrals

So back in august I'm thinking, I'm going to cancel before my 90 days is up and then use the remaining time + 60 days of referrals to think about coming back or not in WAR.

Not so, in september 2009 I get a regular 15$/month charged on my credit card.

Facts:

-Email confirmation of subs cancellation dated august 2009

-Credit card bill with 15$ charged to Mythic/EA in september 2009

-Over the phone Mythic representative inform me they have no record of a 15$ monthly charge, that it must be my CC company charging me somethng about recurring behavior on the part of my credit card company.

-Mythic inform me they keep credit card credential on files even after you cancel your account.

-You have to call Mythic to have your credit card removed from their database and you can ask for an email to be sent with the confirmation.

This kind of thing shouldn't happen.

Originally posted by Rohn

One of the WAR producers recently posted a letter which discusses not only the recent release of patch 1.3.2, but also gives some information about what to expect in the near future.  The link is here:

http://herald.warhammeronline.com/warherald/NewsArticle.war?id=948

If they're able to pull most of this off, with a greater focus on quality as well, it sounds like very good news for Warhammer players.

Problem is... Mythic never stick to the plan. This is the kind of letter they been feeding to players every 3 months or so, and what's funny is that the next patch they will do the opposite.

One letter was about smaller and faster patches... Funny how it turned out

Another was about rebalancing classes... Most funny, they nerfd all AoE by 10 feet, how do you rebalance classes if you nerf everyone equally?

I loved the letter about fixing path to IC then the next letter was about removing Fortress... Basically you remove something that has to be fixed and then you tell everyone it's fixed?

There are so many reasons this game failed, hell 900K players could list you some reasons LOL.

Originally posted by teco221

Did you guys even play the game???  It is OUT already... Gees  and I can't get an answer from anyone.

Yes 1.3.2 is live.

What's more important they remove stuff from the game...

-Fortress are gone

-All new players start in same area.

-They added more XP so players level up faster, modified some quests accordingly

-Apprentice system (high lvl can play with low lvl players now)

What does it mean? With the bleeding out of subscribers there aren't enough hardcore PvP'ers so Forts had to be removed (strangely months back people were able to get to IC weekly, nowadays they cannot thanks to all accross the board low pop). Not enough new subs so everyone starts in same zone. Not enough players to group with in T2-T3 so they introduce Apprentice system.

There is two folds to this patch. Since this game rely soooo much on player population they had to do something.

-Fix the game so it works with less players

-Do some changes to the CC system to please the majority of players left

What Mythic did not address is the mountain of bugs which many of them are months and months old. They still haven't addressed the rebalance post 1.3.0b nerf blanket and most importantly they still haven't fix the gimped classes.

Put simply, they're running around trying to put out fires in every corner with a skeleton crew. The patches are farther and farther apart. They tell you we get faster smaller patches, then they do bigger and farther patches. They tell you they gonna hit you with the nerf bat and adjust later accordingly and then nothing is done and just add more nerfs to the game.

This game has no direction this has been the problem from the start. Mythic has no captain...

Paid for 90 days, got 2 months worth of referrals, then I decided I was going to cancel and wait it out for the remaining of the 60 days referrals and see if I'm going to renew or not.

Thing is, going through my VISA bills, Mythic charged me a full month in september even though I was still running on the first 90 days, and that after I cancelled and received my cancellation email.

Phoned EA/Mythic today...

My only concern is, that no one on the phone could confirm that I will be refund, the only answer I got is:"I sent a ticket to the billing department and you should get a refund". Not only that, the same person inform me over the phoone that if I get a refund chances are I'm going to lose my 60 days referrals...So basically I had to verify, I have to keep a record of the emails and I do have to follow up on their mistakes...

This is exactly the reason I would not renew my account even if the game patch/update/fix were very good. How many cancelled accounts have been reactivated this way without the knowledge of their owners? How on earthcan your account be reactivated and not receive an email about this?

Just a heads up, there is no mention about this issue on WAR's website, a responsible company would issue a statement or at least an email and ask their customers about any unusual activities.

I'd like to thank the people that reported the double charging on these forums otherwise I might not have noticed this and paid 15$ for nothing.

Just search their forums, there are many many reports about this.

http://forums.warhammeronline.com/warhammer/board/message?board.id=server_bl&thread.id=15149

http://forums.warhammeronline.com/warhammer/board/message?board.id=server_bl&thread.id=16220

http://forums.warhammeronline.com/warhammer/board/message?board.id=server_bl&thread.id=15981

http://forums.warhammeronline.com/warhammer/board/message?board.id=server_bl&thread.id=15868

Originally posted by Cefka

I resubbed recently and playing on Gorfang (I belive that's the name of it) I have not seen any lack of RvR be it Open or scenario yet. Also the classes seem to be pretty balanced.

The parrot is dead.

Pretty much what everyone said, just wait a couple weeks there should be only 2 servers left.