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6/14/08 3:09 PM
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Played it, reviewed it. Great game, great graphics, and even better story than graphics IMHO. Yet, Age of Clonan is not for me. An MMORPG is not about stuffing as many instances into a game and cloning the zones as many times as you can to fit 4,000 people on one server without lag. To me, that complete breaks the immersion factor EXPECIALLY for a social gamer into roll playing. Combine that with the horid gathering and crafting system in AoC, and this is a no go as far as spending $15 a month on. Was it worth $50? Hell ya. Is it worth another $180 a year? HELL NO! At least not in my opinion. |
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6/14/08 2:58 PM
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First of all, finish off the month with AoC. By the time you get to the 70s you will know for sure if AoC is for you or not. Remember, 73-80 is nothing but grind and that is a long haul IF you don't get into apprentice groups. As far as WoW goes, it is a great game also. If you like PvP they just announced S4 gear as of the 26th of June. Like others have said, play what is fun to YOU.
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6/14/08 2:52 PM
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remove crafting completely. They need a year or two to completely rework gathering and crafting. As it stands right now, it is the eye sore of the entire game if you can get past all the zone cloning.
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6/14/08 2:50 PM
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Originally posted by Lottobarn
It is a damn shame they had time to focus on all this post launch content, yet they didn't have time to complete the content and fix bugs before release. Maybe with their next MMORPG, they will finally learn from their mistakes with AO and the new mistakes with AoC. There could be hope for Secret World.
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6/14/08 2:41 PM
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Originally posted by sorcielle Boy do these posts get old... While I will not call you a troll, it would be nice if you could post something without the heatshielding in place from the get-go. STOP WITH THE "BECAUSE IT IS INSTANCED IT IS NOT A REAL MMO" BULLSHIT PLEASE. With one breath you can bash this game style dynamic, and in the next be crying over how all games are identical.. And quit holding up everything against WoW as your holy grail.... I am sooooooooooooo ooooooooo oooooooooo tired of the "WoW has 10mil supcriptions blah blah blah.. I am so validated by the number 10 million!!!" And you ARE subtly saying you would rather be playing F2P over AoC, so either defend your orignal post or STFU. Some of us actually like AoC... it is not perfect - but it sure as hell is a MMORPG.
Sorry Sir, if you go back and read the thread, I wasn't the one who brought up WoW. I was responding in kind. And no, it is not an MMORPG. It is like Guild Wars and Hellgate:London. It surely isn't an mmorpg. If anything, it is trying to bridge the gap between battle.net and traditional MMORPGs. It just takes in one step further than Guildwars and HG:L do.
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6/14/08 2:39 PM
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Originally posted by Gnazon
Very good point. I always forget that M$ is sitting off to the side waiting for this to release. Considering the direction M$ is taking their games, Item Mall will be in before in-game advertising. M$ likes micro transactions in online games.
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6/14/08 1:30 PM
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Originally posted by Psiho246
What ever. You need to look at all my posts about AoC. Matter of fact, I gave the game a 75. It is a great game, what it isn't is a MMORPG, IMHO. You know, opinions, we are allowed to have those and post those as we see fit. And for the record, there is nothing wrong with F2P. What would be wrong is if Funcom did start putting in ads and didn't make it free to play. |
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6/14/08 1:12 PM
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Originally posted by curiousdaoc
The point of this thread is? Any reason you didn't address other responses, you know, the ones related to your thread topic (of which my own had input as well)? The answer: because you are a troll.
Sorry, TROLL, I was busy typing to someone else if you noticed. Look at your AO, look at Funcom, look at EIDOS, look at their MAIN focus going forward for revenue is IN-GAME ADVERTISING, look at your EULA, #5 specifically, written by EIDOS and endorsed by FUNCOM or it wouldn't be in your game, look at AO again... YES, F2P AoC is coming, it isn't a matter of if, but when.
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6/14/08 1:07 PM
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Originally posted by Grekon
Dude, thanks for the derail. Since you brought it up, The first day WoW was bad. Within three days they got the servers calmed down. One server bank crashed and was offline until they could replace the damn hardware. Also, remember at that time 150,000 subscribers was a HUGE success in the field. Blizzard sold out 275,000 copies in NA the first week. You could not find a copy of the game anywhere. Funcom is reaping the rewards of Blizzard single handedly making MMORPGs main stream. 3 1/2 years later, they have nearly 11 million concurrent subscribers. Funcom is a publicly traded company. We'll see in 12 months their financials and see how many subscribers they actually have concurrently. I'm glad you are enjoying AoC. And for the record, you can't ever balance classes for PvP. One tweek will make a class balanced 1v1, while at the same time making group pvp so unbalanced it isn't worth playing. Classes should be balanced to what they bring to the PvE game, not PvP. You can't balance for PvP for 1v1, 2v2, 3v3, 5v5, 10v10, and guild v guild. You have to draw the line somewhere. And for the record, WoW's PvP at launch was better than anything they have done after. Open world PvP was awesome and now you never see that unless someone is going in to attempt to roll a king. now, back to our regularly scheduled programming
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6/14/08 12:55 PM
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Originally posted by curiousdaoc
"As good as the game is, I don't feel it is worth paying monthly subscriptions for. Again, IMHO, there are many F2P games that are much more of an MMORPG that are worth paying for, but are free, than AoC." he said this. can you read
Yep, thats owned, gotta love when someone tells you to read when they themselves have not. The chances of AoC going F2P ever, are slim, the chances of it going F2P with 18-24 months are non-existent. Its an impossibility from a business perspective, especially considering the revenue FC poured into AoC to get it to where it is at.
DeadlyMage and CuriousDAOC, you both need to learn to read. No where did I say I like to play F2P games. Ghost12, I'm glad at least you can read. LOL
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6/14/08 12:44 PM
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I've got to admit, I'm very disappointed in Avery. Some threads, he is bashing the OPs for posting negative threads and saying people shouldn't be doing reviews on this game because it is too early. Up pops a positive review and Avery is there to defend it reminding us there is more proof of how glorious and wonderful Funcom and AoC are. Then the next post a company writes AoC down and Avery is there to tell the OP wrong the review is again for the game being so young. The next post Avery is there presenting another glorious review of Funcom and AoC. It is a never ending cycle. I'm sure this "See, I told you so" vs "But, it has potential" lines will keep on coming from not only Avery, but the other die-hard fanbois, as well. Oh well, only a few more months until the next "AAA" game launches and we get to do it over and over again. LOL
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6/14/08 12:31 PM
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IMHO, AoC will be a F2P game in 24-36 months with EIDOS taking advantage of #5 in the your EULA, i.e. In-game Advertising. After getting to 45, I can honestly say this game has more of a G.W./Hellgate:London feel than a MMORPG. As good as the game is, I don't feel it is worth paying monthly subscriptions for. Again, IMHO, there are many F2P games that are much more of an MMORPG that are worth paying for, but are free, than AoC. Great game, just not a good MMORPG at all. *Edit* I changed my prediction on In-Game Advertising because as someone pointed out, AoC on the XBox 360 will be coming out soon. As such, it will breath more life into the game.
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6/14/08 12:08 PM
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Mess me over once, shame on you. Mess me over twice, shame on me. I'm idiot to have believed Funcom learned from AO and Sigil's VanguardSoH launch. Obviously, I was wrong. Don't get me wrong. Age of Clonan is a good game, but it is one of the worst MMORPGs I have ever played. Graphics and story are the only things holding this one together.
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6/14/08 12:04 PM
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Originally posted by LondonMagus
And your mentality is what seperates a 10 million concurrent subscriber based game from one that settles for 250,000 concurrent subscribers. We'll talk again this time next year to see how well AoC is doing.
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6/14/08 12:00 PM
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Originally posted by Gnazon
Preach it guys. Funcom didn't learn. How many times to players have to say it, "SCREW POTENTIAL"! Bring out the box. If you don't have it coming out the gate, don't open the damn gate yet. Better to delay a year and get it right than to release with missing content that you've been bragging about for years.
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6/14/08 11:51 AM
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Originally posted by elf225
I want a sandbox game that takes SWG Pre-CU to the next level. Huge, open worlds with next to no instances except for boss fighting so we don't have to fight campers/gold farmers for boss fights. But, more importantly, I want and open and honest developer that takes interest in the fans want first. No more hype. No more "polls" asking what type of servers/content we want then excluding what we've been asking for. No more crappy crafting systems. If you have crafting system in-game, make it an epic system with items better than anything that can drop. No more lies. No more epic letters of look at our "potential". No more "letters of apology" post launch just to dangle carrots at us to keep us interested. No more missing content. No more rushed releases. No more broken promises. There is a start. Now all we need is a company willing to pick up the challenge.
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6/14/08 11:40 AM
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Originally posted by Wakygreek
So just to understand what your posting...you are angry at Funcom ok thats obvious. You want them to read what you have to say. Okay I get that too. I guess my only problem is, why the hell did you post it here? I mean are you expecting them to surf random websites in search of petitions about their other games?
Because, funcom obviously isn't reading the AO forums. He isn't an AoC customer. Funcom says they read all the sites like WARCRY and MMORPG.com. It is a logicial conclusion that he'd have a better chance catching a GMs attention here than on the AO forums. They've been abondoned by the devs. Damn shame actually.
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6/14/08 11:37 AM
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LMAO... OP, that was funny as hell. Even a die-hard fanbois has to find that funny. Oh, and a sinking ship is a very close second.
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6/14/08 9:15 AM
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This is all for arguments sake to add to the conversation, but also to give you something to think about. First thing, ask yourself, have you known ANY MMORPG company more secretive than Aventurine? Let's assume that what Tasos has said is for real. Aventurine has Greek defense ties. They also have Lybian ties. These are why it takes so long for anything to get done with regards to DFO, because they are involved in a lot of other things that take priority over DFO. Let's assume that the Lybian connection is what is funding DFO. Lets say in December DFO launches and they get 300,000 subscribers. Six months later we find out that Interpol is investigating Aventurine, all of it's employees and customers. Why? Again, making this up for arguments sake, come to find out the financier of DFO has ties to militant extremists. DFO turns out to be another front in funneling money into extremists hands. Would you want to be part of that 300,000 making donations to organized crime of any kind? I know I don't. The way Aventurine has handled it's business practices is highly questionable at best. They are extremely secretive. Here in America, you don't have NASA or the Air Force hiring out defense contractors to make simulators and weapon systems, and at the same time the company has a side project making video games. If the the government wants a videogame, they go find a video game company and contract them out to make a game for them. I don't think you are going to have Blizzard making stealth figther planes for the U.S. Navy any time soon.
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