All Posts by Cholayna

Originally posted by JustBe

Originally posted by Reborn17

Originally posted by arctarus

Originally posted by Waterlily

Worse are the players who will continue to tell you the game is great even if it's bugged or doesn't run.

 

"Seems fine for me."

"No problems here."

"It will get better."

"This is only the first month."

"They will patch it soon(tm)."

"WoW's release had problems too."

"You're a hater."

 

You forget to add, " It have potential"

The denial may be the worst part
 

 

"It's only beta"

They say that even when its only a few months from launch and everything is basically set in stone.

Or, they could try what Farland Entertainment in association with NPC did and release it,then call it a "a stand-alone game as a free gift to our loyal fans" because we delayed the game debut for over 2 years but this isnt the real game this is just a free gift so dont knock this pre-release cuz its really not the real game ---- so if the real game comes out and it looks and plays entirely like the "a stand-alone game as a free gift to our loyal fans that is not the real game but really is but we dont wanna tell you just yet and we think you are too damned stupid to figure it  yourselves so just listen to us and not your own brain cuz this is not the real game but really is but you wont find out until after we have your money cuz when you buy into our crap we wont refund your money even if we havent delivered the product yet so just go with the crapazz pre-release that is a "a stand-alone game as a free gift to our loyal fans" and nevermind that the manual, written by players and not us cuz we havent a clue anyway, is the same for the real game we are going to give you which is in reality this free standalone game"............

so when the real game came out, the crapazz huey that was the "stand-alone game as a free gift to our loyal fans" was crapazz not because of the incompetent, sleazy and inept clueless devs but, as stated by Farlan Entertainment in association with NPC, in a court of law even, but because of one man -- (responsible for the only thing good in the game (the terrain and environmental graphics only - VWORLD) it was his fault and all his fault oh! wait thats right, they also stated in a written interview with this very website that it was the FANS fault cuz they pressured them to release the real game but when that didnt work and blew up in their faces, they blamed a terrain graphic man for the server instability, no content, unplayability, etc, soley on his arse.

unique way of doing business eh? At least it had its own place as the top excuse for sleazy incompetent customer rip-off oriented game companies.

huh?

Originally posted by Enahowae

Well, if Mr. Jacquet is indeed laying off all of NP³, then perhaps you might could find a disgruntled employee or two that could lend strength to your cause, _Pix_. It happens all the time over on our side of the pond...employee gets laid off/fired by big unscrupulous employer...employee later blows the whistle on/testifies against said unscrupulous employer. (Enron comes to mind.)

Anyway, don't stop fighting for your intellectual property.

I dunno know about that either. WIth the posts that come out from Farlan such as "we must not let them break us", and "we must attack our attackers" (attackers being disappointed players, ripped off customers, etc) and the like, the most laughable being "the truth will come out and we will be avenged"  (BWHAHAAHHAAA) Farlan may have just told them the "potential" of their layoff as saving the company somehow and welp, if they have stayed with him this long, they surely took the bait.

Originally posted by Meyithi

It's like Cancer!

OMG Meyithi, ya know there is a quote here from the infamous Blacksac, aka DNL suckerupper, on these boards, that even suggests hating this game can give you cancer??????

Originally posted by _Pix_

Originally posted by Enahowae

David Grossi hasn't worked there for quite some time.
 

Looks like they necro'd one of his old e-mails lol. At the time of the e-mail, he was working at Dailymotion. His bio at www.linkdin.com/pub/5/45b/4b5 doesn't even mention NP³ or Farlan. LOL.

I'd be embarrassed to have them on my resume, too!

 

 http://www.linkedin.com/pub/5/45b/4b5 : seems there was a typo in your link . As far as I know David Grossi is a very close friend of Cesar Jaquet's, but never was an employee at NPCube since he does not appear in the official list of employees handed over by C.Jacquet. My guess is that he belongs to the Farlan side of business. Not sure he will answer then if *somebody* enquires about that litlle detail.

@thePREdiger if David Grossi was presented as the Community Manager, well he did not seem to be very talkative : http://www.darkandlight.com/forum/member.php?u=192328 . Unless of course he is making use of other pseudos...

So SOMEBODY over there at the notorious Farceland/NPFleece or the OP changed the date on that email, either before or after the poster posted it eh?

BWHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAHAAAAAAAA

Farceland/NPFleece and their lot have GOT to be the worlds most bumbling masterminds!

BWAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHHHHAHAAA

Originally posted by arctarus

 

You forget to add, " It have potential"

OMG! The dreaded motto of DNL! Aarrghhhh! My eyes!! My eyes!!!!

Originally posted by JustBe

No it'll continue to slowly decline and SOE probably have like 10 developers working on it which is nothing.

I dunno about that. I too went back to VG To check it out and was pleasantly surprised by the improvements. I was in Beta and bought the game at the start. I still have it installed. I am liking it more and more lately. It HAS improved, quietly and without much fanfare. Honestly, without a bunch of teenage idiots running around, it's actually a great game to play currently.

A friend of mine recently bought and enjoys AOC. Watching it, it seems the same old grind. I dont like the combat system, I dont like the characters (they all look like they have had a lobotomy) and the current and aggravating server down times are annoying.

Sooo I will continue with my renewed interest in VG for the time being. I am impressed with the promised fixes actually having been fixed!

Aye, it does seem they are all getting to be cookie-cutter same-old, same-old thing no matter how they dress it up but then again,thats the way they were designed in the first place. Maybe WH will do it but maybe too just the novelty of a new game will wear off far too soon yet again.

Honestly, due to its incomparable RVR, DAOC held my interest for the longest time. Alas, this game seems to be dying also but it had a grand run.  Another new improved type of RVR would surely perk my interests.

Originally posted by Techleo

 Someone just had the funniest comment in reguards to George. What did he do for Humanity.. Oh yeah nothing. Well NO shit! I mean shit, wasnt that the point of his whole gosh darned routine lol. Bout fell out of my chair laughing. I can see him making one of his goofy facings going Duuhhh

 I suppose the one thing Carlin can inspire in people though is despite our craptastic personalities as a race we have a few hyper-realistic people who do there best, fuck around and in the end, dont do half bad. Maybe George will be right and we will spin into a chaotic end. Then again, he was human to, we mite damned well make it and hell, hed be the first to laugh.

Love the post Techleo! I would agree wholeheartedly with this. He and his humour will be terribly missed. His insight was incredible and to add humour to the everydayness of human beings and society was fantastic. He may have been a bit acerbic to some but to me, he was spot on.

Fare thee well George!

Originally posted by DeadDOG

 

Just so I can be the first PIX it’s your entire fault. DNL is dying.

 

If you would have just made the game and let them take all the credit for your hard work.

If you would have just let them use your I.P. and not sued them for there lack of brains.

There might be a game that might have been cool, if you had completely programmed all of it.

 

Any ways PIX keep fighting.

LMAO! good one DD! :D

I doubt very seriously that much of the blame for the firing is going to be honestly felt against _Pix_. By all that has come out and will continue to come out, the hurt employees will figure out that Farlan is the dastardly villian in all of this.

Then again, there is the chance that the "firing" was on paper only. Farlan could have very well "fired" them from Farlan but employed them in another unnamed company. They are so fond of smoke and mirrors, its hard to take even this news without looking at all the cracks too concerning anything with Farlan.

Odd too the whole lot was fired but the game continues to run. Was there any "real" devs employed in the first place?

Originally posted by Zorvan

Originally posted by _Pix_

 

 

in brief:

 

1- NPCube is appealing against the judgment (targeted date, let's say something "soon" like 2009 )

2- Mr Serge Svizzero, President of the University of Reunion Island, has not given any reply yet to the open letter that was written for his attention last month already

3- Mr Cesar Jacquet has not replied either to the open letter that was written for his attention two weeks ago, prior to his leaving Reunion Island for China and succeeding his giving notice of their redundancy to all his remaining employees

 

 

 

 

1. Stalling while Jacquet runs to pirate software haven China.

2. Poor guy has a face full of egg, right now. He'll maybe respond....someday.

3. His only hope is going full-pirate with Snailgames and hoping to stay out of legal jurisdiction while profiting off stolen software.

 

Pretty much the scenario we figured he'd go for, _Pix_.

Indeed.

He has already made public his intentions -- by announcing a DNL 2 version. That right there was also a wide and huge misstep on Farlan's part.

LOL They are making this very easy for _Pix_'s attorney LOL

ignorant, sleazy predictability = legal avenues in place = win for _Pix_ hands down

Originally posted by Nyast

 

Originally posted by Dwerk-

You know, i see that people here is hoping for Farlan to LOSE the lawsuit. But i would never hope for someone to lose a lawsuit. Farlan has already lost: the game did not sell well, they have tons of difficulties, they have terrible reputation among the gaming community: IF they stole the terrain engine, they have been already punished by the market: there is no need to damage them again. On the other hand, Mr _Pix_ will earn lots of money if he wins the lawsuit, and this is why he is writing here, trying to change the public opinion in his own interest.

 

Let's say, for the sake of the argument, that they did indeed steal the terrain engine.

They've made a game and sold it to players. We all know that D&L isn't too successfull, but independently of whether they made a profit or not, they earned money. From stolen property.

Don't you think that Pix was entitled to a part of this money ? You think it is normal that he got 0 euros from his years of work, while you're defending the people who stole him by saying that "bah, they did not sell well anyway, it doesn't matter anymore" ?

 

 

 

 

As of 06/03/08 -- the game is still experiencing the same problems it had well before release of the "SOG that is not DNL that really was DNL all along". Easily validated by posts on their own forums (of which they even tried to hide that from the general public due to the abysmal state of the game. They wanted people to sign on but didnt want them to know just how sloppy and unplayable this game really is. )

They have blamed _Pix_ and now have even attempted to place blame on Snailgames for their troubles. It's everybody else BUT Farceland according to them. (see the press release wherein Farceland attempts to bring Snailgames into the copyright infringement fiasco they created in a court of law.)

The saddest and most hilarious at the same time is that they STILL attempt to throw off this mess they themselves created and continue to make fools of themselves in the mmo industry.

Originally posted by mike470

Wow... I read through this most of this thread, and I must say, I never knew they did this much.  I only knew briefly that they scammed money and used an illegal device..but now I know.  I never knew that Pix got sued, or that Farlan tried this many excuces.

Well, now I know.  Good luck Pix

This is what DNL and their "fans" tried to discredit and prevent.

This is why we want people to know the whole truth. Hopefully Farlans shameful actions will prevent other sleazy devs from trying to pull this crap. MMO players dont need companies like Farlan.

Originally posted by BadT

Okay Cho, I will just keep posting and "hating" but let you take the heat from it kk? LOL 

LoL no kiddin' BadT. Ah welll, no biggie to me. These guys make it tooo tooo easy. 

Originally posted by Zorvan

Originally posted by Dwerk-

I will not answer to Cholayna anymore, since my words would be useless: if you say something that he does not agree, you are a liar. Those that think like him, instead, are honest citizens. A typical example of "open-minded" man.

Cho is a she. And although she can be exhuberant in her responses, does not make her incorrect. But since you don't feel like responding to her anymore, try me.

I would just note that in the website of VWORLD, Pix is using the DarkAndLight to publicize his engine: there are screens of the game, written description, and so on. At the same time, Pix issues a lawsuit against Farlan for having stolen the engine and damaged his reputation (!!!).

In other words, Farlan is an enemy when it comes to licensing his engine, but it's a good friend when it comes to exhalt the possibilities of his engine. Anything that makes money, of course, is welcome, even your worst enemy that stole your work and blamed your reputation.

Of course he's going to show where his engine has been used. Regardless of the piece of shit DnL is and the fact that Farlan stole the tech, the only worthwhile tech in DnL is the VWorld engine, which _Pix_ created and owns. And he has every right to showcase it at the same time he defends it from Farlan.

Are you going to sit there and tell me if you built a new type of technology and somebody appropriated it without your permission, that you would not say "Hey, look. I built that!" when people were trying to give credit to the wrong person?

A coherent behavior indeed...

Yes it is coherent behaviour. If you don't know that, you have bigger things to worry about than this.

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LMAO! Okay now we are really getting deep.

OF COURSE! The man is going to advertise that HIS tech was used in a mmo (if you can actually call it that). Its HIS work!!!

Man, people are really starting to dig deep in this. Almost sounds as though they are jealous as hell that Pix was proven RIGHT , that he gets to keep HIS OWN WORK and that he gets compensated for the attempted damage that others have done to him. This is absolutely mind-boggling!!!

The man needed to hire his own attorneys to be able to keep his work and his OWN interest in his OWN work ---- of course the evildoers will pay the man for expense of defending himself in which he is the winner!

Think man THINK!

Originally posted by Dwerk-

I will not answer to Cholayna anymore, since my words would be useless: if you say something that he does not agree, you are a liar. Those that think like him, instead, are honest citizens. A typical example of "open-minded" man.

I would just note that in the website of VWORLD, Pix is using the DarkAndLight to publicize his engine: there are screens of the game, written description, and so on. At the same time, Pix issues a lawsuit against Farlan for having stolen the engine and damaged his reputation (!!!).

In other words, Farlan is an enemy when it comes to licensing his engine, but it's a good friend when it comes to exhalt the possibilities of his engine. Anything that makes money, of course, is welcome, even your worst enemy that stole your work and blamed your reputation.

A coherent behavior indeed...

Its not a question of whether you agree with me or not, it IS a question of being honest.

As a BETA PLAYER, you were privy to information that others were not. As a BETA PLAYER you had more interest in the game than most. And since you have been with DNL since the beginning, you would have known and well remembered the HUGE stink that was caused by FARLAN when they stated in a written interview that is was the FANS that caused the game to be debuted with only 10% complete.

This information was not only on this website but I remember at least 5 other websites - word for word - as well as in the DNL boards and DNL IRC Chat. You would remember that for months, the PLAYERS themselves were talking about it INSIDE THE GAME, while playing the game -- it became some nicknames of some of the items in the game. This went on for months.

For someone who claims to have been there from the beginning, you would have known, seen and/or read AND heard about the THOUSANDS that Farlan attempted to rip off with the refunds. You would have known about the non-existent map, you would have known that Farlan attempted to state that SOG was NOT DNL. As a player, it would have been through osmosis, there was no way to avoid the knowledge. This went on for months and still today, you can ocassionally still see a comment or a reference to it IN GAME.

For someone who claims to have been there from the beginning, you would have known, seen and/or read and HEARD about the claim Farlan used against Pix and Farlan claiming it was Pix's fault the game is only 10% complete, cannot run, and alllllll the other problems wrong with it. You would have learned this too even against your will! as it was a constant subject and yes, Pix became a nickname for one of the mobs also. This continues to this day both in the game as well as on several boards.

For someone who claims to have been there from the beginning, you would have known, seen and/or read and HEARD about Farlan telling the players to come here to this site and vote -- and vote more than once with multiple accounts in order to "defend the game". I do believe the message used the word "attack" in it. (it is still listed here in this forum--not hard to do a search for it. It is quoted direct from Vuuar and has a link to the source). To this day, there is still a word out to come here and attempt to "get rid" of the posters as well as "show them the truth" --- one of the "truths" is Farlans own claim, in their own words, of promising to "publicize the outcome" of their frivilous lawsuit against Pix. As you can well see, they lost --- and C. Jacquet has yet to cover yet another "promise". (This also is a statement in writing made by Farlan on their OWN WEBSITE -- accusations against Pix. Yes, it has and continues to happen)

So you see, anyone who claims to have been there from day one and denies knowing about any of the slimebag actions, arrogant and sleazy manipulations on the part of C. Jacquet, Vuuar, as wells as the team of Alchemic Dreams (soooo totally enmeshed in this by Farlan - info given to them by Farlan) -- is a flat out liar. Period. There can be no claim of "I never knew of it" simply because all of this was a daily topic in the game chat itself as well as on the DNL boards, and across the www.

Claiming ignorance and innocence of any of the past actions of Farlan is incredible. Even if you weren't the least bit interested in the drama, it would have affected you and you would have at least known about it. (even one of the miracle patches claimed to be "fixing" what "Pix" had done)

Unless, of course, you bury your head in the sand in game chat, boards, other websites , during gameplay, etc etc. If you do, then you have no right to even post anything on this subject as you continue to bury your head in the sand and have ignorance of the subject.

So you see? Anyone can disagree with me, everyone has their opinion, I have mine. When you mix the "opinion"  with lies,  misrepresentations and misleading bs, its THEN I have a problem with it and I attempt to correct the facts that are attemtped to be laid down. * I * do NOT tolerate misrepresentations, deliberate misleading information nor flat out lies. The FACTS back up my statements.

***btw -- there are at least 5 others who have debunked your postings in this thread also. Answer the other guys too. I am not the only one "explaining" the real truth behind this curtain of misleading bs.

DNL's own front page of their website states "The biggest MMO you have ever seen".

That's V. Pourieoux (_Pix_) VWORLD tech.

If anyone who had been a beta tester , and especially one whom stayed with DNL since then,  claims they never saw the accusation from Farlan blaming the players for the state of a game is a liar.

If anyone who had been a beta tester,  and especially one whom stayed with DNL since then,  claims they have never seen Farlan themselves making accusations against Pix is a liar.

If anyone who had been a beta tester, and especially one whom stayed with DNL since then, claims to have never seen Farlan blame other companies for the state of the game is a liar.

If anyone who had been a beta tester, and especially one whom stayed with DNL since then, claims to have never seen Farlan attempt to deny the thousands of requested refunds even before the game was delivered is a liar.

If anyone who had been a beta tester, and especially one whom stayed with DNL since then, claims to have never seen Farlan tell its fans to manipulate its ratings by whatever means, including making several accounts and voting, is a liar.

If anyone who had been a beta tester, and especially one whom stayed with DNL since then, claims to have never seen Farlan ouright lie, in print , about the state of the game is a liar.

If anyone who had been a beta tester, and especially one whom stayed with DNL since then, claims to have never seen Farlan state, in print, that Pix's technology is their own and they claim ownership of it is a liar.

And again, I challenge you to state that to the editorial staff here at mmorpg.com as well as to two magazines that I know of that have made reference to the abysmal game debut of DNL as well as reference to the crooked and deceitful ploys Farlan has done.

It isnt this thread, nor even just this website alone ---- Farlan showed the WORLD just how sleazy they are.

The site is left up for the interests of the gaming community.

Farlan/NPC made their own garden of lies, deceit and fertilized it with sleaze. The fact that it is now in its final rotting stages has nothing to do with the general public's outrage and disillusionment brought out in public, but Farlans own ill-conceived web they wove, continued to defend their own lies, continue to twist and distort the truths and continue to attempt to fool the mmo community.

You used the word "if" in your post. The FACT is, there is no "if" === it has already been PROVEN IN A COURT OF LAW.

**as another note -- When Pix was so ruthlessly stolen from and did what ANY person would have done had their work been hijacked, FARLAN threw in frivolous lawsuits against him in an attempt to cloud the issues. FARLANS scheme failed and continues to fail. It is THESE ACTIONS that anger the mmo community, it is these actions that bring about their own hand in their own destruction.

Originally posted by charlizd

yada yada yada yada don't voice your opinion dude as you can see if you have a negative point to anything here you seem to inherit the title of TROLL,FLAMER e.t.c amazing how one sided things are, best thing to do would be to just walk away and go read something of some intelligence.