Originally posted by Ikisis

Why would you dupe potatoes, onions, and carrots? 

If id dupe something would be Iron, Dreadplate, R70 swords, Bows, Wood, Stone ect. Something that makes more then food...

That is all that was shown while he was streaming.  Who knows what the personal banks look like or what you cannot see on the screen and could be in bags.  That is just 1 small screenshot - there could be plenty of what you mentioned in other banks man.

Originally posted by Epicent
Again? Really? Cant you talk about a game you like or something?

I have actually really enjoyed neverwinter a lot.  I am just hoping AV knocks out all this and fixes this dupe because it just ruins the game for those that do play.  No way 11 man clan has 140K prowess in 14 days and 30K potatoes, 21k carrots, and what 20K onions legit...  

https://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?368986-Deathping-Cowboys-EU-Aventurine-you-have-to-look-into-this

Bottom page 1 you see 32k potatoes and 21k carrots in the bank as they were streaming like idiots and also another thread how they hit someone for 350 with 1 arrow....  Let's watch and see if they indeed get the "banhammer"

Sounds like a dupe to me is indeed working and something fishy with 350 dmg from one arrow.....

Originally posted by Hotjazz

Originally posted by Blindchance

 Anything which would add replayability to this pve grinder with open pvp system ?

• Kill 10 tiny rats - 4.786 Prowess [Code: 1001154]
• Kill 100 tiny rats - 47.86 Prowess [Code: 1001155]
• Kill 1000 tiny rats - 478.6 Prowess [Code: 1001156]
• Kill 9 small rats - 9.1521 Prowess [Code: 1001157]
• Kill 90 small rats - 91.521 Prowess [Code: 1001158]
• Kill 900 small rats - 915.21 Prowess [Code: 1001159]
• Kill 8 rats - 17.0376 Prowess [Code: 1001160]
• Kill 80 rats - 170.376 Prowess [Code: 1001161]
• Kill 800 rats - 1703.76 Prowess [Code: 1001162]
• Kill 7 big rats - 30.87 Prowess [Code: 1001163]
• Kill 70 big rats - 308.7 Prowess [Code: 1001164]
• Kill 700 big rats - 3087 Prowess [Code: 1001165]
• Kill 6 even bigger rats - 54.309 Prowess [Code: 1001166]
• Kill 60 even bigger rats - 543.09 Prowess [Code: 1001167]
• Kill 600 even bigger rats - 5430.9 Prowess [Code: 1001168]
• Kill 5 Large rats - 92.1705 Prowess [Code: 1001169]
• Kill 50 Large rats - 921.705 Prowess [Code: 1001170]
• Kill 500 Large rats - 9217.05 Prowess [Code: 1001171]
• Kill 4 huge rats - 149.2264 Prowess [Code: 1001172]
• Kill 40 huge rats - 1492.264 Prowess [Code: 1001173]
• Kill 400 huge rats - 14922.64 Prowess [Code: 1001174]
• Kill 3 enormous rats - 225.2508 Prowess [Code: 1001175]
• Kill 30 enormous rats - 2252.508 Prowess [Code: 1001176]
• Kill 300 enormous rats - 22525.08 Prowess [Code: 1001177]
• Kill 2 Monster rats - 300.7958 Prowess [Code: 1001178]
• Kill 20 Monster rats - 3007.958 Prowess [Code: 1001179]
• Kill 200 Monster rats - 30079.58 Prowess [Code: 1001180]
• Kill 1 Horror rats- 300 Prowess [Code: 1001181]
• Kill 10 Horrors rats- 3000 Prowess [Code: 1001182]
• Kill 100 Horrors rats- 30000 Prowess [Code: 1001183]

 

 

This is how I feel the PVE is in Darkfall.

 

 

I have killed rats, crafted and harvested a lot, and I have now 22k PP. I don`t play DF to kill thousands of rats just to get pvp viable. Frankly I`m bored after two weeks of shite PVE and lack of large scale pvp. I will give them another month to fix the way we grind or I guess I`m out too.

Yep that is a huge issue - it is the most dumbed down, mind numbing, boring PvE and way to grind XP period.

Originally posted by Betaguy

Originally posted by Realbigdeal

Not gonna quote some fanboys who think DFO is better than DF UW when the whole DF community knows which one is better. We can't prove it cuz one of them doesnt exist anymore. You can't even siege in UW cuz you crash more than twice and it's laggy as hell.

I'm not gonna lie, only thing DF UW did better is the prowess system to prevent anyone from macroing. 

And lol, if you think most will stay after may 16... Tell me one new feature added since April 16 to this day.

 

 

I have never heard tell of a MMO adding new features a month after release... I think those expectations are a little crazy 

These are NOT new features, lol  It is stuff from the old game that was working just fine.  AV has admitted they are core parts of the game and they could just not get it done in time.  They launched missing a lot of content that your standard MMO no matter sandbox or not launches with.

Again this is not new content at all....

Originally posted by Realbigdeal

An other thing, early on, the game will be fun especially if you play it casually. When you feel like you have done everything and only thing left to do is to build up more prowess points, you will finally start noticing the flaws of the game.

I'm at 25k prowess. I feel like i'm good enough and i'm a mini maxer, so i'm not one of these power gamers who wish to have 100k+ prowess one day just to win. Soloing is fun. I solo all the time and i kill anyone i see. I engage in fights that i know i can't win so i fight while being outnumbered for the thrill. 

Here's the problem. When i'm tired of getting zerged, i call 3 or 4 friends and we roll out. Guess what, there's no one that has a group with  4 or more players to fight. We roamed for hours and we found nothing to compete against our small size. We searched in each player bases and we found no one except afk gatherers. Before i called it a day, i clicked on bindstone recall to go back in the safe zone. Guess what, everyone's hiding in there, even red players(confirmed murderers). Then i said fuck it and i canceled my subscription. 

You think about exploring? Do it, but it will get old real quick. All player cities except 1 or 2 are fully built. If visiting museums is not your thing, exploring will get old real quick. By exploring, you're mostly thinking about exploring a sandbox, but in DF UW, since it's useless to build a city or to live in one, the scenery never changes.

Yep - they need to get rid of the safe zones asap - its killing the game.  Went out chaos chest hunting on a clanmates alt last night geared up and rode all the way from Flaming Skull SW all around and through the middle of the map, all around elf lands, and down to Ruby and saw 2 spawns with people at them.  I finally found some naked AFK fisherman outside their city and killed him but the world was empty.

Before people tell me the game is full of people - tell them to get the hell out of the safe zone.

Originally posted by Squeak69

ok for starters i have not played this game and dont really care ether way about it, i just want to ask one question

are you really complaining that a game that launced about a month ago hasnt come out with new fetures???

you must be new to MMO gameing cuase if you had gone through as many MMO laucnhes as i have you would just be happy if the game was stable enough to play after a few weeks much less new content

They do not need to add like brand new content, no.  They need to add all the stuff they left out just to make a launch date.  For example every single class only has 2 of its 4 schools in, there is no trading market/channel at all, there are ZERO dungeons and 29 of them were done 5 months ago they claimed, there is only 1 type of ship in the game, the game is built on conquest/siges yet there is NO siege equipment like cannons and warhulks and you can only use a few thousand battlespikes, lol

List could go on and on and on with the core, basic features missing that any other MMO actually launches with.

Originally posted by Brenics
Guess no one remembers how the dev's for Darkfall 1 would bs about game and make fake accounts just to hype game. Not saying they are doing it again but sure seems that way.

Brenics - I would not put anything past these devs as they ran out of $ and had to launch and they need a LOT more to make up for the years of dev costs.

Chrisbox - most of what I posted came straight from the DF forums at AV and my own comments so far has turned out to be 100% spot on - AV has not changed.

HottJazz - agreed there man.  That is what will no doubt cause most of the subs to cancel and the lack of sandbox/content.  Killing 150 mobs is the most retarded system and way outdated like a lot of other crap.

Originally posted by Synthetick

Originally posted by Maelzrael

I dont agree about the combat, I prefer Gw2's combat overall. Ui is okay. Classes are mildy entertaining but nothing super mindblowing or original. To me the game feels like a old arcade game, not a world. I think the animations on the mage in particular horrible at best, the others were mediocre imho. The foundry is nice, hope they take that to other games. I havnt been able the have to much FUN because of the above, I feel like its a cheaply made low quality game with ugly character models and an uninteresting world. But thats just me of course, I have two friends who the game.

I gotta say I disagree with you on the highlighted note. The game, to me at least, feels as polished as any other AAA MMO launched within the last few years. The world is definitely linear, but they managed to at least make it visually appealing throughout the zones. I feel like they nailed the atmosphere pretty well, but that's just another personal opinion.

The models and armor graphics look pretty good to me, as well. First time I've played a hafling/hobbit and not deleted it immediately after seeing the combat animations. 

 

Agreed 100%

Originally posted by Chrisbox
My trial's ending soon.  Don't get me wrong, fun game, but not worth a sub right now.  Tons of potential, I'll see if they actually use it properly.  

Yup you and others have disagreed a lot and say how good the game is but cancelling your sub.  So just imagine the # out there that feel ripped off - population going to be hurting soon when everyone does not renew the alts either after the free month...

Tried to warn people killing 150 of each mob to get XP was not sandbox and boring as fuck....

Originally posted by Consensus

Basically just watch this video past the first 2 mins

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxgkMCO9VRU

OR go read the steam forums and the forums managed by AV and how unhappy people are on no content being added, all the rollbacks/crashes they had, etc.

Even Uzik and others have posted AV needs to get content in asap or people will get bored.

Originally posted by Wizardry

Why did two people mention NEW FEATURE after only one month?IMO as others have mentioned in the past,you need to make sure the current game is running as intended before moving on.Developers that do it the opposite way are doing it wrong.

Yes you should expect some new features and content but give them more than a month after launch ,c'mon now be serious.

There were a few BIG things like dungeons and market AV said would be in "immediately" after launch and they were not even close.  The only content they have put out in 6 months is Primalist and their 2 schools.

And yeah something is way fishy to get the hits up to that much over the next closest, lol

Originally posted by Greymoor

Originally posted by Mkilbride

 

 

Originally posted by Greymoor

Originally posted by Deerhunter71

Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

Originally posted by MrBoots
Do you really think that a 3rd party program that hooks into the client can't tell what the distance between you and another player is? Do you think it can't tell if you are mounted? Do you know how simple would it be for some hack writer to create a formula that determines how high to aim above your head based on your distance from the cheater?  We aren't talking about some pixel color aimbot from the 90s.

Calculations like this should be server side..  If not, it has written fail all over it.

Heck there is a client side change you can make to get rid of the RNG on archery all together - that is how fail it is.  You wonder how people keep firing non stop and never miss BUT never take the time to hold the arrow for the aiming reticle to shrink all the way down.....

 

People are forgetting about the item dupe that is in which is cheating also.  The cheating is there no doubt - it might just not be as blatant as it was in DF1 but it is there :)

 

What dupe? How do you do it? Where did you learn about this dupe? Who's doing it? What have they used the duped items for? Why isn't there any outrage about this dupe?

Why aren't these aim hackers / people removing wobble the best PvPers? Why don't people who hack/aimbot  just demolish any honest PvPer?

Why aren't people up in arms about this mass aim botting, hacking, removal of wobble situation you've envisioned in your head?

 

There is. Go to DF's forum. There's a multi page topic about duping in DF:UW.

 

Yes... a thread that is made by a random guy saying he's heard a rumour... but has no evidence or real reason to think the rumour is true.

There is also a thread in the player discussion forum and I have talked to a clan on steam who has confirmed said exploit.  They have not stated whether they have not reported it; but everyone should hope they have or else you will see the results in the long term.....

For one dudes are spamming to buy large treasure maps for a lot more than they even give in return - guy might have gotten the gold legit possibly but 20k per map for as many large maps as you can sell him - uh huh......  You just hope AV is monitoring that guy and the others.

Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

Originally posted by MrBoots
Do you really think that a 3rd party program that hooks into the client can't tell what the distance between you and another player is? Do you think it can't tell if you are mounted? Do you know how simple would it be for some hack writer to create a formula that determines how high to aim above your head based on your distance from the cheater?  We aren't talking about some pixel color aimbot from the 90s.

Calculations like this should be server side..  If not, it has written fail all over it.

Heck there is a client side change you can make to get rid of the RNG on archery all together - that is how fail it is.  You wonder how people keep firing non stop and never miss BUT never take the time to hold the arrow for the aiming reticle to shrink all the way down.....

People are forgetting about the item dupe that is in which is cheating also.  The cheating is there no doubt - it might just not be as blatant as it was in DF1 but it is there :)

Also I LOL at it being the best MMO we have today - yet it has no depth at all or content.  You do the boring harvesting to get mats for gear, kill 150 of the same mob for xp, or PvP -- yup so so much to do and an uber MMO, lol  I mean it has been over is it or 12+ years in development and they still cannot figure out DUH I need to put actual content in instead of a giant arean game on a huge landmass which is barren after people quit due to no content....  As I said great concept they just cannot deliver it.

Originally posted by Seelinnikoi

Originally posted by SirBalin

Originally posted by MrBoots
Do you really think that a 3rd party program that hooks into the client can't tell what the distance between you and another player is? Do you think it can't tell if you are mounted? Do you know how simple would it be for some hack writer to create a formula that determines how high to aim above your head based on your distance from the cheater?  We aren't talking about some pixel color aimbot from the 90s.

Aimbots are far from 100%...in this game...a person can move...so the missle doesn't follow them.  It's really only good for insta cast spells...I think the game only has 1.

Actually there are aimbots in DFUW.

Without giving too much details here is what happens.

The software calculates:

Distance between YOU and TARGET

It calculates the distance you need to shoot above the TARGET so the arrow lands there.

Then it binds itself to the target and your view moves as when the target is moving (with the height adjusted as to fire)

It also calculates your speed and your targets speed when strafing, so it shoots not only above, but on the diagonals as to compensate for speed.

 

The paid multihack tool also does other things like texture modification so you can see through walls, folliage, rocks, etc..

It has speedhack and desync so you can "dodge" attacks, kinda like - you see me there, now you dont -

Map hack to see all harvesting nodes, enemy players, types of mobs, etc...

 

Now, I cant obviously tell you where to get it, but it is out there and while its not widely advertised, if you frequent some known website for cheats and hacks for MMOs, you can find it.

 

It is one of the main reasons why I quit.

Yup - definitely there and their banhammer site has only banned what 3 people for "cheating" - the rest is ToS but they definitely mark it clearly when it is cheating and they have not detected many for that.  You can only hope they have a ban wave in a month or so where they do.

Originally posted by redcapp

Originally posted by Deerhunter71

Originally posted by itchmon
I keep hearing about df being a side project, does anyone have a link to proof for that?

http://www.bloomberg.com/article/2012-02-01/a9dVsKuu0j4E.html

 

The Issue proceeds will be used for:

·     The launch of Darkfall 2.0 in the US and Europe;

·     The  co-development  of  the  Asian  Darkfall 2.0,  which  is  to  be  a 
free-to-play version of the original game;

·     The development of premium gaming entertainment content for  InternetQ's 
AKAZOO platform.

 

 

With only 50 devs there is no way DF:UW is a priority with 1) the co-dev of the F2P version in the works (since we know how long it takes them to deliver stuff) and this akazoo platform stuff.

Wait, they just released a new DF and they're already working on yet another one?  Or are we talking about somewhere down the line, here?

They are working on the Asian F2P version of the game that just launched here - that is ongoing alongside of this side project of theirs they call DF:UW....

Originally posted by ElderRat

Originally posted by Deerhunter71

Originally posted by ElderRat

Originally posted by Jayaris

These seems like likely scenarios:

The game seems interesting to you

You have spare time

You like to play MMORPG's

There's probably some others. Is there some reason you shouldn't play the game?

I can only afford 1 MMORPG at a time.  Currently playing LOTRO, which has become so easy it is not challenging.  I prefer a challenge, however I  am concerned about the community that plays a game as much as the challenge.  I have to be able to justify switching from LOTRO to Darkfall unholy wars. I have to know I will be playing it for awhile. For those who will now say I should do a F2P if cost is a concern - I have tried them and it is like paying for Sex - not satisfying. I have been burned before by say I am interested in this game, have the time to play it and I am a gamer.  Those 3 things did not make Mortal Online a good game to play.

 

If you like a full loot MMO and FPS-style combat you may want to give DF a go.  But also on the flip side and I am not trolling here there is a ton of content not released in game yet.  They stated dungeons and the market would be in immediately after launch and 30 days will have passed with zero new content.

 

Also, there are 2 sides of the story in regards to the grind in DF:UW.  While not as bad as DF1 I personally though do find it a lot more boring and mind numbing.  You literally will have to go kill 30 night hags for example for the xp you need to spend on skills and then the next stage of that feat is kill 150 and it resets to zero.  You will do that over and over with all other mobs to get the XP you need UNLESS you like sitting there chopping a tree all day long in the safe zone.

 

You just have to ask yourself is the seamless world, server crashes with 2 hour rollbacks, and missing content is worth the freedom of the combat type and full loot knowing you can lose everything at any time - while killing those said same mobs over and over for the 150 kills you need to get the XP.

ok, then.. honesty. Thank you.  I appreciate your candor.  If that is the case then I think I will wait and see if these issues are addressed in a couple of months. Thanks everyone.

To be fair you may want to read some of the other threads also to hear the other side of things - because I am definitely not a fan of the game and thus called a hater on the forums.  I actually do love the concept and loved the first game it is just that AV cannot deliver the concept - I really really wish they could.

*** Also I forgot to let you know there is zero fluff/other things to do you normally find in other MMO's/  Literally all there is to do with ZERO storyline or lore is:

1) Harvest mats/or buy them to get the armor/weapons you need

2) Kill mobs for the XP you need

3) PvP which as a guy starting out you will be running into guys that already have basically max toons and will simply roll you because they are also bored and have nothing better to do.

4) Ride and explore the world - but you get no XP for that until you have explored like the entire map :(

Originally posted by ElderRat

Originally posted by Jayaris

These seems like likely scenarios:

The game seems interesting to you

You have spare time

You like to play MMORPG's

There's probably some others. Is there some reason you shouldn't play the game?

I can only afford 1 MMORPG at a time.  Currently playing LOTRO, which has become so easy it is not challenging.  I prefer a challenge, however I  am concerned about the community that plays a game as much as the challenge.  I have to be able to justify switching from LOTRO to Darkfall unholy wars. I have to know I will be playing it for awhile. For those who will now say I should do a F2P if cost is a concern - I have tried them and it is like paying for Sex - not satisfying. I have been burned before by say I am interested in this game, have the time to play it and I am a gamer.  Those 3 things did not make Mortal Online a good game to play.

 

If you like a full loot MMO and FPS-style combat you may want to give DF a go.  But also on the flip side and I am not trolling here there is a ton of content not released in game yet.  They stated dungeons and the market would be in immediately after launch and 30 days will have passed with zero new content.

Also, there are 2 sides of the story in regards to the grind in DF:UW.  While not as bad as DF1 I personally though do find it a lot more boring and mind numbing.  You literally will have to go kill 30 night hags for example for the xp you need to spend on skills and then the next stage of that feat is kill 150 and it resets to zero.  You will do that over and over with all other mobs to get the XP you need UNLESS you like sitting there chopping a tree all day long in the safe zone.

You just have to ask yourself is the seamless world, server crashes with 2 hour rollbacks, and missing content is worth the freedom of the combat type and full loot knowing you can lose everything at any time - while killing those said same mobs over and over for the 150 kills you need to get the XP.  Also it would be recommended to find a good clan to join as well.

Originally posted by Seelinnikoi

Originally posted by Deerhunter71

Originally posted by Seelinnikoi

There is an aimbot that calculates your distance from the target and your current speed and shoots up high enough just in order to hit it.

You dont need to calculate how high you have to send your arrows, etc to hit it...

 

Then there is the speedhack, the item dupe which "escaped" beta, etc...

 

All the info is available if you have pro google skills or know where to find. And the worst thing is, AV did not implement a "warden like" feature because of timeframe and budget, so that is why cheaters are rampant.

The people cheating who are getting banned are doing so because they were seen and reported, not because their system caught them.

An item dupe is still in the game?  I hope AV knows about this and squashes it asap; talk about a killer!

Yes there is, but people are being wise using it. You have to be smart and not let the surplus items enter economy, rather people are using it for crafting and construction mats.

 

Thats why some clans get wiped and rebuild everything so fast.

The fact duping is in AGAIN at live launch is so sad and already makes the game a fail....  Have you reported the dupe at least to AV so they can fix it a few months from now?