Originally posted by yoyoyoblaka

I liked EVE also for about two months when I first played about 7 months ago. It was cool at first, I liked the learning curve as there is a lot to learn at first. But as time progressed you begin to realize one of the big faults in the game (i'm sure some people will not take it like that) 

- #1 reason I quit is how skills are learned, it is pure and simple time. If you've played the game then you know, if not basically you learn a skill by clicking on it and hit "learn" deeper into the game some skills take literally weeks to learn. At this point I realized as a newb I will literally NEVER be able to catch up to the people who have been playing the game for 3+ 4+ 5+ years NEVER!

 

still its a cool game probably the most original mmo i've played. but still the way the skill system works you're shit out of luck as a new player. 

I thought this as well.

But you can only fly one ship at a time

and said ship only takes a pool of a certain amount of skill points

and of those skills they can only go to level 5

So while a vet might have 50m skill points and you only have 15m, the ship he's flying at max only requires 8m to fly perfectly.

Therefore, your on the same level as long as your both specialized.

So the argument that you can "never catch up" only works in the sense that he has more options than you in terms of varrying styles of play.

But to say he's stronger than you and you can never "catch up" is just plain false.

Guys settle down.

They more than likly still have to talk about this non mmo as they took money to advertise it on their site.

This is just a follow up between business partners, that is more than likly in the contract they both signed when the game came out.

Two reasons why I won't be getting the game anytime soon

1:  you can't zoom out, I'll go back to supreme commander for a real RTS

2:  three different games sold seperately is an obvious attempt to milk the franchise for dollars.  Not into getting ripped off

No.

Originally posted by itpaladin

Originally posted by PoopyStuff

really shows you what type of game this is in heavily favoring the evil doer and not the do gooder.

no balence between bad\good

 

a real shame

Anti-pirate corps anyone...sheesh it's like only people that played trial say anything bad about the game.

you made my point for me

anti pirate corps get penalized in high sec and low sec for pod killing

people with negative sec ratings get to have clones in high sec

the bounty system is completely broken

the game cateres to the ganker, it just does

its not balenced...  the gank to anti gank ratio is at least 8:1

Originally posted by itpaladin

Originally posted by OkhamsRazor

Originally posted by frostsmith

These kind of events put a bad taste in new player's mouths. It's as if you don't want this game to get bigger? Meh.

 

 My thoughts exactly . I like the concept of EVE but things like this make me think the people that have populated the game for several years proberbly hold all the cards now and theres little room for new players .Isolated gankings fine but a whole organised  fleet of gankers just puts me off even trying it . I'll leave it to the elitists . 

 

It is thoughts like this that show both of your obvious lack of knowledge and experience of the reality in the game.

A squad of T1 frigate rifters can take down 5 year vets in certain T2 ships (Tracking Disruptors anyone?).

Time in-game has little to do with anything. It is all about knowledge, skill, strategy, and tactics.

With over 5k systems in the game, do you really think every miner with a T2 Hulk is at risk?

got news for ya

being a 2003 eve vet myself

the odds are heavily in favored of the gankers.

there is no in game mechanic to thwart the pirates in this game.

all the incentive is to gank and make money, almost no incentive to gank the gankers to protect other players.

really shows you what type of game this is in heavily favoring the evil doer and not the do gooder.

no balence between bad\good

a real shame

No one is forcing you to play.

If you don't like how a private business operates, you dont' have to be their customer.

What's a good mmo that's not a wow clone?

Eve

can't be dissappointed for something I had little expectations to begin with.

as soon as I figure out it was class based, xp based, and instance based I lost interest.

just another mmo I'll try for 6 months then grow tired of and quit

Why is this thread 4 pages long?

the answer to his question was already given and accepted on the first few replies.

This is why I stopped playing long before lich came out.

Cause I knew the carrot was only gonna get moved after I spent 6 months getting the gear I wanted.

Waste of time

I play eve, no carrot.

Originally posted by Hyanmen

Originally posted by PoopyStuff

planets are IN space.

your argument makes no sense.

 

star wars...  just look at the two words.

just by its very nature, one does not think of green pastures and rocky landscapes.

they think of space.

Stars are IN space too. 

Those green pastures and rocky landscapes are all part of space, just like stars. 

*rolls eyes*

talk about grasping at straws.

face it.   a star wars game without the "star wars"  ie..  huge space combat, death star battles, tie fighters, millineum falcon, I mean dude.

doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out something is missing

not that it really matters either way.. the game is gonna be one memorrable playthru as light side

and one memorable playthru as dark side

hit max level, get good gear, and 6 months later shelve it

they don't make deep mmo's anymore

the masses just can't handle it

Originally posted by Ramonski7

Star Wars was never about space exploration or space warfare (other than plot elements to continue the story). I think a lot of you are getting it confused with Star Trek. Star Wars was about memorable characters that stretched their battle beyond just one planet. But why on earth would anyone want to create Han or Lando just to stay in a ship is beyond me.

If you want space combat so bad you can always play EvE, wait for Jumpgate or fire up Tie Fighter. As for me, I'll be happy checking out TOR and it's character driven system of story telling and using space only to get from one plot line to the other.

"a long long time ago on a planet very far away with memorable characters"

lol

the first thing on the screen

STAR WARS

"in a galaxy"

yeah, that makes me think "ground combat"

hehe

Originally posted by Hyanmen

Originally posted by PoopyStuff

the game is a "star" wars game.

star as in space.

wars as in space wars

space wars as in..   space flight\combat

I mean come on people

the very title of the franchise suggests sapce flight\combat

to not have it, is to take away a huge portion of that it is.

Planets are in the space too. "Star Wars" can mean "Planet wars" in the same way as it can mean "space flight wars" because planets are in the space. 

Your logic is flawed.

planets are IN space.

your argument makes no sense.

star wars...  just look at the two words.

just by its very nature, one does not think of green pastures and rocky landscapes.

they think of space.

the game is a "star" wars game.

star as in space.

wars as in space wars

space wars as in..   space flight\combat

I mean come on people

the very title of the franchise suggests sapce flight\combat

to not have it, is to take away a huge portion of that it is.

Originally posted by stayontarget

If it is such a good game then the PoP would be high.  Something just does not add up.  Probably something more in the lines of middle ground *not as good / not as bad* 

Aka: nitch game.

population does not equal quality

that's a foolish argument.

if your ever looking to pvp don't be caldari

You should ammend your "why there will not be"   with

Why there will not be anything innovative, different, unique, outside the box, or revolutionary about the game mechanics for this game.

"Reakktor"

That's all that needs to be said.

Neocon was a good game, horrible company.

This game might be pretty good, it just won't be advertised, or sold well, or deveopled for, and be bug ridden, etc etc etc