You have AC3, only it's called Lord Of The Rings Online.

Originally posted by nomadian

AC2 had 10-15k subscribers when it died. AC has about that now but its cheaper to run..

Anyway, AC2 isn't coming back. They aren't going to go through the cost of launching it, or putting it on a server. Plus, I think they see LOTRO as the spiritual successor to AC2.

Wish I was wrong, but sadly I think thats the truth.

I think this is very true. I played AC2 and loved the landscapes and gameplay but not the lack of players. When i started playing LOTRO however i could still see all those gorgeous landscapes from AC2. AC2 was a dry run for LOTRO and i expect if it came back it wouldn't be that different from LOTRO.

Originally posted by trancejeremy

Just a warning though - first impressions are deceiving. I really loved the game, really really loved it. So much that after my first month I popped for the lifetime sub.

However, the game really sucks after the starter areas.  Since the free trial stops, there are basically no more people, so no more grouping. And the number of quests nosedives (and the originality of said quests) despite needing more and more xp to level (and thus needing to do more quests).

I'm not saying to quit playing, just don't do anything rash like I did, and spend $200 only to find out you have stopped having fun after a month or two.

This is complete rubbish. I've soloed a Minstrel to level 56 and still going strong in Moria. There are literally too many quests in LOTRO to be able to do them all and the majority are solo quests. There is still a large and responsive community on Laurelin, especially if you join a Kinship. I played LOTRO since launch, went away for a while when AoC came out but went back to it and it's still brilliant. For immersive PVE it is the best mmorpg out there bar none, and i've played them all (seriously) so i can make that judgement. The number of quests nosedives? It makes me laugh when people who fail to understand how to play an mmo come up with uninformed criticisms.

Go play something else.

I'm on Laurelin and it's ok. There are always people in the areas you visit, even the newbie zones and out of the way places.

Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

Originally posted by Matt_UK 

It's funny how you criticise Jackson but you didn't even bother to watch the film properly. Jackson places Haldir and the Elves from Lorien at Helms Deep, not Glorfindel and the Elves from Rivendell.

I made two points with one statement. One about changes (Arwen for Glorfindel), and the other about additions (the Elves at Helm's Deep). It's your reading which needs improvement, not my viewing.

I agree it shouldn't have happened but you need to get your facts right before you criticise. Personally i think he did a brilliant job and to compare books and films is always a mistake as the two mediums are entirely different. I thought the replacing of Glorfindel with Arwen at the flight to the ford was a masterstroke.

You're wrong.

Why did you say 'ask Glorfindel why the Elves were at Helms Deep'? I read that as meaning you thought Glorfindel was at Helms Deep, because that's the way it reads. If that's not what you meant you need to learn to write clearly or people will always misunderstand you. Why did you even mention Glorfindel? I think you did think Glorfidel was at Helms Deep, you just can't admit that it is you who are wrong.

Do your homework before posting in future, or be big enough to admit you made a mistake. 

Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

Originally posted by grandpagamer

I think Jackson did a pretty good job myself and have been reading Tolkien lore for 40 yrs.  The depth and scope is huge.  Just how much do you think they can do with the time allotted time allowed for three movies? They had to exclude some things while still making the movie cohesive for those that have not read the lore.

Ask Glorfindel why the Elves were at Helm's Deep.

My gripe is not with what was removed, but what was changed and added.

It's funny how you criticise Jackson but you didn't even bother to watch the film properly. Jackson places Haldir and the Elves from Lorien at Helms Deep, not Glorfindel and the Elves from Rivendell.

I agree it shouldn't have happened but you need to get your facts right before you criticise. Personally i think he did a brilliant job and to compare books and films is always a mistake as the two mediums are entirely different. I thought the replacing of Glorfindel with Arwen at the flight to the ford was a masterstroke.

I loved DAoC but i can't get on with the clunky graphics now. I know graphics don't make a decent game (UO best mmorpg ever) but if Mythic had brought out DAoCII with updated graphics i'd have gone back like a shot. I agree with all the comments on why WAR has failed (running through an empty city on a PC that can run AoC full spec and still sticking eventually got to me) but i really enjoyed playing my Witchhunter...

Sorted now, see you in game everyone....

Originally posted by wertax

Advice is to use :

http://forums.station.sony.com/station/forums/show.m?forum_id=200
Download : http://launcher.station.sony.com/update/StationLauncher_setup.exe

This should shorten the download a bit,
 i myself am always done in about 1-2h (Whole game downloaded through the installer)

* But others have different setups / speeds or use wireless etc.

Greetings,

Ortahr.

Thanks Ortahr, good advice.

Still sitting on a 9hr wait for patches after a day. No other mmo is like this. A joke.

Phew i expected to get flamed for my OP. Thanks for being so constructive everyone. Ok, after not being able to log on today i've uninstalled and gone for a full reinstall. Here's hoping. If i can get on consistantly then i will stick with it. I agree with some posters that many have no problems at all with EQII (a mate of mine for one)

I do still like the game itself, for me it remains the closest to my idea of fantasy (even more so that LOTRO in some respects). Say hello if you're on AB, my characters are Eldoric and Raskar. If i manage to get connected tomorrow.

Originally posted by zunarn

Maybe you need a new PC? Seriously EQ2 is not that bad despite my hate for anything SOE since they screwed up SWG for me but thats the forgotten past. I think EQ2 is still the best pve game out there. There is a trial, no offense to the OP but try it out, wether you agree with him or not. I still play this game, I recommened Antonia Bayle server. It's the most populated of all, maybe not in the newbie zones but the player base is pretty helpful. I play in Antonia Bayle, send me a tell if anyone want to try this game and need help.

I agree, try the trial, but don't subscribe. I also agree the ingame community has always been fantastic. No problems with anyone in game, just tech issues.

Like i said nothing ingame has pissed me off and this game was fine on release as i said. I also bought a new PC a couple of months back and my ISP runs AoC, LOTRO etc... with no problems on full spec in DX10. It's a thousand times better than the machine i originally played EQII on. I can run the game on full spec no problems, no lag or chopping at all. It's just connection and stability that's the problem and you're right Ethian i should have known better, i've played EQ and SWG so i know Sony of old. Just gobsmacked how bad the performance of their servers and their tech is.

A warning to anyone thinking of returning. Don't! This game is massively unstable and unreliable, you will not be able to log in every day whenever you want to play, zones will crash the game on you, it will take days to download patches and if you're running Vista you will need to fiddle with countless files. A complete mess of a game... oh yeah and despite servers saying FULL (Antonia Bayle) they are deserted.

I played EQII from launch and really enjoyed it, high fantasy at its best. I left for other games later but returned a couple more times. Now though it is absolutely dreadful, nothing to do with the gameplay, all down to the customer service and reliability. Don't take my word for it though, the net is full of problems associated with my experiences over the last few days.

A real shame but i refuse to pay for a game i can't play. Cancelling when month is out. Goodbye EQII, i advise anyone considering going back to find something else to play.

'Very sad' is when something happens that is beyond the control of most people, was unavoidable even with the effort of most. This was a car crash waiting to happen from launch and Acclaim did nothing to save this game, they let it die. It's not very sad in my opinion that a badly developed and badly promoted game has gone crashing down. Let this be a lesson to lazy developers everywhere, all mmorpgs aren't a pot of cash in the making. I feel sorry for all the people who payed to play this, the Devs who lose their jobs deserve to pay for their poor work.

Most classes are soloable up to level 30. I played Herald of Xotli, Priest of Mitra and Guardian all with no problems, HoX can solo mobs five levels higher without too much trouble.

Originally posted by Delanor

Originally posted by Nihilist

I really enjoyed the skill deck combat system, but the entire rest of the game is underwhelming.

 

In order to enjoy the combat I will have to endure hundreds of mind numbing quests / boring and repetitive pve garbage which I just cannot do anymore.

 

Sounds like you don't like mmorpg anymore. Maybe never really liked them. The quests are the heart of any mmorpg and the ones in this game are actually quite good and enjoyable.

Gotta admit i'm rapidly going off mmorpgs, nothing seems to satisfy. The great days of immersive RP in Ultima Online and the raiding guilds of EQ are long gone. It's hard for me to maintain an interest when i play casually, can't get groups and soloing becomes boring. I prefer multiplayer games these days, prearranging with mates to group up for a couple of hours and play through something. I wish games like Oblivion and Thief had multiplayer, maybe Elder Scrolls V will. At least there is Never Winter Nights, but even that wasn't great.

Originally posted by Guillermo197

It's sad really, as they are trying, but players are just not coming!

I think the biggest issues with this game is and why so many people just don't get any further then the free levels, is there are hardly any incentives to play..

Cheers

I don't think they are trying, if they were we'd be given a free month to really get into the game. Why doesn't anyone get any further than the free levels, because 10 free levels is a waste of time and shows us nothing. I've posted all over here on what they should have done, but as usual this is another game where the devs pay no attention to players or logic and will have a dead game on their hands in a few months.

Haha it runs on Xp because it's a crappy game from about four years ago, sod all to do with choosing not to use Vista.

Originally posted by tehowl

Originally posted by Theocritus

    The problem with TCos is that it is an extremely boring experience for the noobie....The tutorial is about the worst I've seen and the beginning world is just "kill 10 boars/bears/wolves" rinse and repeat quests.......WHile the graphics are solid there is little else to give players incentive to stay.

 

I've done the first zone about a dozen times and never found it boring, probably cause i loooove their combat system.  Also, they changed the newbie area in the last patch, added some new quests. it should be better now.

I logged on yesterday and while i enjoyed some of the new quests (investigate the ruined temple etc....) but i still found myself killing boars for meat and after that i went back to a woman and she sent me to kill 5 of each animal (boars, bears, wolves) how tedious and unimaginative is that? There are several quests all based around killing boars. It doesn't matter how great the combat is, my heart just sankm when sent on another boar quest (maybe they should call the game BoarQuest). One aspect of the tutorial zone is the enlistment into the Enclave Militia, this is a brilliant idea that allows you to earn citizenship. Unfortunately it feels like an afterthought along side the meaningless quests. The whole tutorial should be based around quests for the militia, flushing out spies etc... Yet again it feels like the developers just didn't think things through and just thought they could get away with any old rubbish. This game cannot compete in it's current state with LOTRO, WoW or even AoC. If the developers get their act together, basically a total rewrite, then i might play on.