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If it's sandbox, then we'll have NGE Next once Titan hits the markets.

Originally posted by biggarfoot
Originally posted by Vrika
Originally posted by Entropy14

its free cause they dont charge you till the 20th for the box you paid for.

 

Most of the people, including me, were charged for the pre-order. Even if I cancelled now, I'd lost 5€, so it's not free.

Even if you have got it free, that does not make it free for the rest of the world.

Thats not quite true as its a non returnable deposit on the full game, as you get that £5 off the game when you pick it up on the 20th.

If I can't get it without paying anything, then it's not free. If I have paid 5€ for the package that includes pre-order access and 5€ discount when (if) I pay for the complete game, then I've been charged for the pre-order access.

Originally posted by Entropy14

its free cause they dont charge you till the 20th for the box you paid for.

 

Most of the people, including me, were charged for the pre-order. Even if I cancelled now, I'd lost 5€, so it's not free.

Even if you have got it free, that does not make it free for the rest of the world.

same as dofus?
General Discussion « Wakfu
12/14/11 3:35:27 AM
Originally posted by legend55

what do you mean by political system?

-Player nations with elected leaders, who can also lose their position if the citizens elect them out

-Laws made by those leaders

-Player guards who track down criminals and put them in jail

Golarom Bioware doesn't even know when you pre-ordered from your local retailer.

They're letting people play in the order they registered their pre-order keys on swtor.com. Right now they're probably somewhere around 29th July.

Originally posted by marinrider

Stop complaining, the stated date is Dec 20, be happy you can even get in before that.

EU consumer proctection laws entitle those EU customers who have pre-ordered and promised head-start access to head start access. It was part of the contract, and it must be delivered.

However as Bioware made no promises about the length of the head start access. If they give 2 full days then they have clearly filled the contract. If they give only one full day, then they'd better make sure they don't have any major server problems at EU prime-time.

Originally posted by dubyahite
First off if you look at the preorder FAQ you will see that the 80 dollar charge was a hold that was released. You won't be charged until Friday. Go study your bank account before making false claims.
 

At least people who used Solo payment method were charged full purchase price when they pre-ordered from Origin. Even if those ordering with credit card haven't been charged yet, it doesn't mean there aren't people who've already paid full price to EA.

I'm not claiming it should entitle anyone to anything. The price is the same whatever payment method you use, it's just charged at different time.

Every single EU server at light load. The load is not going to get any heavier during the night and work day. Bioware won't be doing any more invites for 12 hours.

I feel they are taking it way too carefully for EU players.

People in USA are just going to be returning from their work and starting to play. Even if they did not do any more waves, the population of USA servers would increase.

They just announced they're changing their plans and letting 5 waves today instead of 4. So any information they could have sent ahead of time would have been outdated by the time you get access.

Can anyone on this wave please tell the date they registered their pre-order key? I'd like to know what date they are at.

EDIT: Checked TOR forums. It looks like they were now letting in 24 July and 25 July. /EDIT

Originally posted by MaGicBush
Tomorrow they will open up more servers for the next 4 waves, pretty sure that was stated somewhere.

I'm afraid they will not. Because of their guild placement they had to have all servers for early access available on day 1 so that people could get into the server their guild was assigned to.

I think they'll only open up new servers for launch day.

EDIT: It's ofc possible that they will open servers only for those pre-orderers who aren't in a guild, but would they want to to create such different populations for their servers intentionally? /EDIT

I think the staggered access is good idea.

But they could give more information. Would it hurt them to reveal what date they are now letting in to give us some kind of progress indicator?

same as dofus?
General Discussion « Wakfu
12/13/11 11:08:33 AM

It's more like a sequel to Dofus with new features like complex political system, ecosystem, etc. Dofus is separate game and still doing well.

Originally posted by Satarious

Approximtely how many waves are there total?

Only Bioware knows, and they aren't telling.

Looking at Twitter messages, the second wave was 1 hour 30 minutes after first wave. I'm crossing my fingers and hoping to be on 3rd wave around 15.15 GMT.

Originally posted by adam_nox

the fact that all preorders didn't get access at the same time, coupled with apparently no server opening staggering, is a massive fail by itself.

I spent more than 15 minutes on que to log on to SWTOR website just a while ago. Bioware may have to limit the amount of people they give access simply because their account and login database couldn't handle everything at once.

Originally posted by AJ2ME
I wouldn't hold my breath, as the digital download sites are listing the game as unreleased and until you pay for the game you won't be getting in. Plus they have always stated UP TO 5 DAYS. I don't think that they will allow people in today and then locked them out for 2 days till the game is "officially" released.

What are you talking about?

1) The game is downloadable from swtor.com as soon as you've registered your early game access code there

2) An e-mail was sent to all who had registered their early game access codes that the early access starts 13. December 12.00 GMT

Originally posted by sigurd57

 But hell, ANY DAY (or amount of days)  prior to the 20th is more than Bioware is obligated to deliver, to anyone, for any reason.

 

Just correcting: According to EU customer protection laws, when customer pays for a product he pays for everything that he's promised to get with the product. So an EU customer is considered to have paid not only for license to use the game and access the servers for 30 days, but also for the early access and other promised pre-order bonuses. EA/Bioware is legally bound to deliver the early access as part of the purchase, and if they fail to do that they have breached the contract. EA/Bioware also has to treat their EU customers as people who have paid for the service from the moment they give early access.

Officially it's impossible for you to buy digital version of the game, since EA's own store (Origin) is the only digital distributor and they don't sell SWTOR to your country.

But it's sold on gamersloot.net: https://gamersloot.net/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=2268&cPath=469

Bioware has officially stated that there will be no IP block, so even if you can't buy the game in your country you'll be able to play.

EDIT: Some other places which sell cd-keys online

http://www.3zoom.com/star-wars:-the-old-republic-game-card-296.html

http://www.gmbar.com/star-wars-the-old-republic-standard-edition-cd-key

But these shops normally work by buying game boxes, scanning cd keys in them, then sending you the scanned key digitally. So they are not the most official or trustworthy places to shop /EDIT

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