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Originally posted by CrazKanuk

There were videos which show combat animations, though, and movement, los, etc is already established within Landmark, so there is a controller already built in. It's all a matter of whether combat is actually hooked up or not. The engine is actually doing plenty. It's doing panning, paths, events, etc. Mobs and combat are, arguably, the things that you aren't guaranteed to have in an EQN engine at this point. 

 

Edit: Not saying mobs and combat are trivial though. 

I have seen the videos of animations for EQN, but again those are just scripted movies made for media events like SOE Live.  They are nice for what they are, but they are marketing pieces, not actual gameplay.

As for Landmark, well that is EQN right now.  Landmark is pretty much the sum total of what has been completed for either game as of a month ago.  Which is probably why there are no actual gameplay videos of EQN, because it would be landmark with some EQN skins/models.

 

 

Originally posted by CrazKanuk

Sure, but is it in-engine? I mean we know they HAVE an engine. Whether it's gameplay or not is really inconsequential. 

It isn't inconsequential though.

A scripted demo is just making a movie.  The engine really isn't doing anything.

Gameplay shows that the engine is functional and players can interact with the game.  Mob behaviors, combat engines, movement, line of sight, etc etc. 

Originally posted by Nanfoodle

As always, your negative so it must be true. This is the internet and anything positive must be blind fanboy crap and thats the end of it =-) I have seen many Machinima video do everything you said proves its not real done in game. Matter of fact in many games. Bye!

Just because I pointed out your inaccuracy doesn't mean I'm being negative.  Pointing out that a video is a scripted marketing piece and not gameplay footage is a neutral comment.

Perhaps that is why you resort to attacking posters instead of having discussions about topics.

Originally posted by Aelious

 

1.  Neither of us really know how the video was generated though I posed a valid theory that it was done, at least in part by someone controlling a character.  The basis for this being that 80-90% of what is seen is already playable in Landmark, minus the Dark Elf... never mind, I made my point and the only rebuttal was an underlined dissent without any proof or explanation so there isn't anything else to say about it.

 

I disagree.

Looking at the video it is clearly a marketing piece, not a recording of gameplay.  No one is playing those characters

The "players" run directly towards the camera and often stop to pose dramatically or show off the animation they are doing.

The camera constantly changes positions to showcase either a character model doing some animation, particle effect or the appearance of a new model that is important to what is about to happen in the scene.

The NPCs always die at the exact same time.

The "players" always run off camera the split second the NPCs die or stand there doing nothing until the scene cuts.

This looks like the same footage shown of at SOE fanfaire, where you can literally see each character class run through the same scripted paths and encounters to showcase what their different abilities do.

 

 

While I agree with you that much of this could be accomplished in Landmark, I still don't think there is actual gameplay video of EQN to be found.

 

 

Originally posted by BattleSaint

I do agree it's most likely that Smed's position was being changed regardless and i also think he wasn't a very good CEO for SOE. 

Regarding the Lizard Squad situation i utterly reject this notion that standing up against criminals is "joining in the schoolyard". He was the direct victim of this harassment and criminal behavior, and as such he was in a unique position to lead the charge against this kind of behavior.

Like i said above no one has the obligation to sit down and be quiet in the face of such reprehensible conduct. Sometimes in life you cannot make "corporate" decisions. You have to take a stand as a human being and dare i say as a "man"  and say what needs to be said. 

It is my respectful opinion that Smedley did not behave immaturely by engaging these criminals,but instead he had an obligation as a leader in the industry to confront them. Political correctness and hiding behind 'corporate " obligation empowers these fools.

There is a difference between standing up to criminals, leading a charge and just being stupid.

I see no charge that was led by Johns outburst and he seems to be standing up against the courts light sentencing by threatening some sort of vigilante justice. 

 

John made an emotionally charged reaction that resulted in most of the people he is involved with suffering the consequences. 

 

The guy runs a video game company.  He is not obligated to put his employers, customers, career and family at risk by going out to directly threaten criminals when those threats will have zero impact other than him blowing off steam. 

 

 

Originally posted by tawess

Seeing how none of us seem to be Sony shareholders or investors and thusly have little to no insight in to exactly what was going on from mid-90´s up to today beyond what little we could put together from our outside view... Saying that Smed ran SoE in to the ground is perhaps a bit speculative. 

 

But no matter... I can not prove he did not do it either so each to his own on that matter. 

 

What i can not understand is how ANYONE can stand up and smirk like a smug *bleeeep*ng punchdrunk posterior primate over the fact that someone had his life, his family´s life and his *bleeeep* dearly departed disturbed OVER.... A.... FEW... ***********.... VIDEOGAMES... .. . VIDEOGAMES.... Jesus F Christ... Arn´t we doing the very best to prove people that we are in fact socially and mentally disturbed... The abandoned army ready to topple the world....

 

Well *bleeeep* me up the *bleeeep* and call me charlie... But by all means, sit there and feel smug...  After all it does not directly impact you, so why bother. 

 

I like to think i remember when there was a time we knew what appropriate response was... I know it is an illusion but i like to think it existed. 

1) Smed was in charge of SOE for its entire existence, so it is hard to pass the buck of its failure onto anyone other than him. 

2) I don't see anyone cheering for Lizard Squad and saying that the cyber attacks he is under are a good thing. 

 

There are 2 different issues here and that really needs to be kept in perspective.

 

First issue is that Smed is in a war with scummy hackers. Everyone seems to agree that those things being done really suck and no one deserves that.  However Smed isn't making the situation any better by raging like a giant man baby on twitter and making the problem worse for his employer, customers and his career. 

There is some assumption that this event lead to his departure and anyone seeing his leaving is a positive thing for gaming is somehow an endorsement of Lizard Squads actions.   It isn't.  The mess he is in with Lizard Squad is separate issue and doesn't negate all the other issues he has. 

 

Second issue, is that Smed has pissed on a lot of his customers over the years and people resent him for that.  He has been a habitual liar and his attitude/words can often be pointed to as a direst reason driving players away.  Anyone saying that he was long overdue in being replaced isn't wrong, nor does that mean they support his problems with lizard squad. 

 

Notice how no one is saying they don't understand why John faces so much criticism, even to the point of hackers willing to do things that bring them to face criminal charges?  No one is surprised that he is no longer in a leadership position?  No one is saying that Daybreak games is going to be worse off without him running the show?

I'm speaking in huge sweeping strokes there speaking for "everyone", but honestly I don't think we can find anyone, but the most blind rabid fan who would not also echo those same exact statements.

 

 

 

Smed leaving will most likely have little effect on the vision of EQNext.

The team was most likely already working on what can or cannot be kept of their original vision after dealing with new ownership and the company losing half of their staff. 

 

 

Originally posted by Nanfoodle

Then what do you call a game thats filled with shared lore of EQ1 and EQ2? A game that also has many of the same locations? People bitched just as much about EQ2 back in the day and its now accepted part of the EQ franchise. The negative crap going on about this game will melt away if and when they made a good game and craves out a nitch of fans who play it. Till then I will eat my popcorn and watch the negative nay sayers and giggle. 

Again, what on earth are you talking about?  No one is saying EQ2 isn't part of the EQ franchise. For better or worse, EQNext will be part of the franchise as well. 

Perhaps you were not around at release, but the hype for EQ2 was massive.  Many (myself included) thought it was going to stomp on World of Warcraft and be a huge success.

Instead people complained that overall EQ2 was a bad game (not that it was a sequel). That is why even during the absolute height of Everquest popularity EQ2 was merging servers a year after release.  The game design was poor and polish was even worse.  It was a huge disappointment for an Everquest game. 

Keep in mind EQ2 was a reimaged Everquest with new game engine and systems, just like EQNext is. 

 

Even John Smedly has said it was a bad idea to use the Everquest name in EQ2.  It seems like EQN is doing the same thing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think using the Everquest name for this game is a bad idea in general.

EQ fans seem to be turned off by the direction of the game and the EQ brand overall doesn't really have strong draw for non-EQ players.  Someone new today searching about EQ is going read horror stories about camping endless hours, grinding factions, camping items/keys for days/weeks.  Things that are being told with fond nostalgia, but still paint a poor picture for todays gaming standards. 

 

Using an established franchise should create a rally point for a fanbase, but that doesn't seem to be what is happening here. 

I'm not sure what the value is in using the Everquest name with the current game.  Other than it was SOE's biggest success.

Originally posted by ReallyNow10

I see some folks are underestimating Smedley.  They guy is a game design genius.  He (with Brad) put EQ (and MMORPG's in general) on the map.  If not for their efforts, we could all still be playing Zelda or Final Fantasy or something.

Please, please, give credit where credit is due.

I think many people have already said he did great things once, but that time was many years ago.

Personally I think he gets a lot of credit for the work from people he hired.  Brad Mcquaid, Raph Koster, etc.  Listening to those guys talk you can hear the understanding of games, mechanics and ideas.  Listening to Smed talk it all sounds like marketing speech and bullshit to help settle down the latest firestorm his company is facing.

 

Some give him credit for things he did 15 years ago and some today.  Some good, some not so good. 

 

Maybe being humbled down to an indie developer is just what he needs, but honestly I think the disconnect between him and gaming is just to far.

Originally posted by Nanfoodle

So what MMOs do you like? Asking you questions is not an attack, dont be that thin skinned. 

Just keep it civil and on topic and we can all enjoy the discussion.

 

Saying I don't like MMOs, a bad rep and question why I even post here is baiting for a personal fight.  Lets not pretend you don't understand that ok? 

 

 

Lastly me enjoying game A or game B has no relevance on the topic, so why even ask.

Originally posted by SavageHorizon
Originally posted by Daffid011
Originally posted by SavageHorizon

Lol some of you in your pathetic hate are not reading it properly. He hasn't left the company he has taken time off and a position will be made avaliable on his return. 

Get some rest John then come back fresh. 

John has been fired from his CEO position and his employers are seeking his replacement.  . 

If he returns, and that is a big if, just what demoted position do you think he is going to be allowed to occupy and how "fresh" do you think he is going to be not running the company he built?

 

If you were Columbus Nova, what value do you see in having John Smedly in charge of anything at your company?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Show me the link that says John got fired. Don't show me what we have already read and try to convince me that's what it means. 

 

And don't tell me that when someone steps down it's because they were fired or about to be fired.

 

Show me the link or write from DBG that they fired John.

 

I'll wait while you run along and fetch it.

Fair point, I am filling in some blanks that are supported by pretty much everything.

 

 

However, you are doing the same for John "stepping down".

 

No where does the "official" statement say he is stepping down, just "taking time off" and that he is being replaced. Oh, he might also return to the company in some undetermined future date for some undetermined role.

 

Maybe John just happened to take this exact time during a hot steaming mess his mouth created to step down and get refreshed for an awesome comeback.  Maybe he was fired as CEO due to the problems he created and the overall condition the company was in under his leadership.

 

I feel pretty confident that he was forced out and didn't decide to step down as you suspect.

 

You never answered the question about what new position you think Smed will take and what his new role would be. 

Originally posted by Nanfoodle

If you say so. Funny CN a huge investment firm that knows how to make money, left him in charge. When Smed stepped down, his best friend Russ who started this all with him is now the CEO. I dont see CN pushing someone in charge they want. My guess there are good reasons why. Of corse for you that means more gloom and doom calling as thats all you ever do on these forums. I have gone through your history and you dont talk positive about any games. Thats why your rep here is what it is. EQN could release this week and have 3 mill sales and active subs and you would find a way to spin it as bad. Why are you on these forums? Do you even like any MMOs? If you do why dont you ever talk about them? 

CN has put Russ in charge temporarily, but maybe he would be a great CEO.  Who knows?  What does that have to do with anything?  Are you really suggesting they fired Smed as CEO and replaced him with a friend, because Smed is a great leader?  You are making no sense. 

It is very common for a CEO to stay on for a short term as part of an acquisition.  That doesn't mean Columbus Nova thought Smed was doing a good job.  Firing him as CEO however means they didn't think he was. 

One view is common sense, the other is trying to put lipstick on a pig. 

 

 

Also, can you not try to make this into a personal argument like you always seem to do with people that you disagree with? 

 

If I tell you that I do enjoy MMO's and that I post on their respective official forums instead of here, will you stay on topic and not resort to personal attacks? 

Originally posted by Nanfoodle
Originally posted by Daffid011
Originally posted by Ganksinatra
Originally posted by DelCabon
Way overdue. Never understood how someone with his temperament was the manager of anything. Kudos he made it as far as he did but it was inevitable that he would be the instrument of his own undoing.

 

Yeah. Weird how they would allow a man who has made them billions of dollars to stick around despite having a big mouth. It's almost like they're in business to make money, not friends.....

What makes you think he made Sony billions of dollars?

The last 10 years of SOE were marked by failed projects, dozen+ cancelled games, entire studios closed down, failed acquisitions, multiple rounds of 100+ employee layoffs, etc etc.

 

Keeping Smed around is pretty much the reason SOE wasn't making money for the last 10 years. 

I remember being online when EQ1 broke the record for most number of people online subbing to 1 game. At that time it was 500k. Thats about 7.5 mill a month at that time. Add in the many years even at 100-200k subbers for just one game, billion is not hard to get to. You call it a failure with games cancelled but just about every studio over the past 17 years has closed games. Its common. As people move to new games and old games are not supported by the community. They get closed. But I forgot, what you are spinning is negative so it must be true, thats how the internet keeps working. P.S. DGC has been in hiring mode for a while now, cant be as bad as you wish, hope, pray for. Sorry!!!

Sure, there was a time when SOE was making 100+ million a year with huge (very huge) profit margins.  It was a massive success story.

But that was over a decade ago and since then the company has been dominated by non-stop downsizings, closures, cancellations and a player base that has dwindled to a tiny fraction of it former size.  Some of the playerbase was driven away by Smed running his mouth at them (which the person I was addressing seems to think isn't a big deal for a CEO).

All of which relates to the quote I was referencing that suggests Smed was somehow bringing in MULTIPLE BILLIONS of dollars and is the type of leader that any company would want to keep around. 

Consider that over the last 10 or so years SEO went from the undisputed MMO leader to a company that struggles to crowd fund pre-alpha games I think he could not be further from the truth in suggesting Smeds depature wasn't way overdue.  

I think it is beyond question that Smed was in charge for far to long and the division failed as a result of that.  Even if he was a massive success 17 years ago.

 

Also suggesting that it is common for companies to close a single game as if it accurately represents what happened at SOE is nothing short of putting lipstick on a pig and just short of lying.  Hiding from the negatives and being disingenuous doesn't equate to being a positive or optimistic person. 

Originally posted by SavageHorizon

Lol some of you in your pathetic hate are not reading it properly. He hasn't left the company he has taken time off and a position will be made avaliable on his return. 

Get some rest John then come back fresh. 

John has been fired from his CEO position and his employers are seeking his replacement.  . 

If he returns, and that is a big if, just what demoted position do you think he is going to be allowed to occupy and how "fresh" do you think he is going to be not running the company he built?

 

If you were Columbus Nova, what value do you see in having John Smedly in charge of anything at your company?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Originally posted by Ganksinatra
Originally posted by DelCabon
Way overdue. Never understood how someone with his temperament was the manager of anything. Kudos he made it as far as he did but it was inevitable that he would be the instrument of his own undoing.

 

Yeah. Weird how they would allow a man who has made them billions of dollars to stick around despite having a big mouth. It's almost like they're in business to make money, not friends.....

What makes you think he made Sony billions of dollars?

The last 10 years of SOE were marked by failed projects, dozen+ cancelled games, entire studios closed down, failed acquisitions, multiple rounds of 100+ employee layoffs, etc etc.

 

Keeping Smed around is pretty much the reason SOE wasn't making money for the last 10 years. 

Originally posted by Tokken

It's smart. Smed is taken out of the spotlight so things can came down a bit with the DDOs attacks, twitter comments, etc. When he gets back from his break He will still be at daybreak working behind the scenes with as much influence as he had before.

I suspect you are very wrong.

Smedley has been demoted and someone else is taking his position. Daybreak will create some unspecified position for Smed, maybe. I can think of two other times this has happened at SOE. Brad Mcquaid and Raph Koster.

 

 

both were removed from their leadership roles and placed into positions that were newly created. They effectively road out their contracts in those new positions while not having any input at the company. They were mothballed.

 

Smedley will get the same treatment.

Originally posted by Nanfoodle

 

 

You have no clue how much work the dev team has or has not done. Unless you saying you know the DGC staff and they have been giving you an inside ear? I used to read your posts and often enjoyed them. Seems that you have joined the cloud of negative posters. No matter what game you post about you have nothing positive to say. What happened to you? Are you sure you even like MMOs any more? Is there even one game out there you like or enjoy?

why do people keep saying that we have no idea how things are?

anyone can read the developer Q&A or interviews and see from your own words how far behind they are. They keep taking about how everything EQN related is just concepts at this point. Even the core systems are still in the concept stages. Again that is from the developers own mouth, so yes people can have an idea of where things are at.

you follow the developers, so you know this stuff. Why are you attacking people instead of sharing those links?

Originally posted by toljar
Even though he seemed to support his wallet more than the gamers, losing someone like him who has been around since the golden days of MMO's might be a big blow. Who really knows what happened behind the scenes during SWG - PS2 - EQ:N etc. with Smedley. Maybe he had his hand tied, and it is easier to blame a person than an entire comapny, and he knew that and was willing to take quite a few falls?

Smed was the one constant during the companies free fall and series of blunders.  there is no way he was running the show that long, but was somehow powerless and all the faults were someone elses cause.

He caught lighting in a bottle 15 years ago and every project after that was progressively worse. 

 

Sony had a culture of treating their past performers like rocks stars, through many failures.  Smed benefitted from that.

Originally posted by SpottyGekko

Like I said, I'm not following closely. In the case of EQN and other games with launch dates that seem to be years away, I rely on "news headline" events for updates. I can't even remember when the last one of those appeared specifically for EQN.

 

Are you talking about EQN-specific updates and newsletters, or are you talking about Landmark ? There's supposed to be some crossover, I know, but they are billed as two separate games.

There is a lot of landmark information that is being presented as "EQN" information by fans.

 

essentially the situation is:

Landmark represents all the team really has for either project.  EQN only exists as a concept right now. 

All things considered it looks like the project has stalled.

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