Locking a player out from playing is a bad idea. Why would ArenaNet want to ban you from a part of the game for using one of their services?

Just increase the time it takes before you can get the bonuses.

How is this even a thread? How would anyone think adding a lockout timer is a good idea?

It'll probably cost gems to switch anyway. A single player might fork it over every few weeks, but a whole guild? Unlikely.

Don't know if this is indicative of anything, but...

http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Ftera.hangame.com%2Fshop%2Fpopup%2FtcatInfoAdd.nhn&act=url

If I'm understanding Google's (poor) translation correctly, they appear to be selling non-cosmetic items for T-cats.

All of the systems, classes, races, and skills are in and functional. All that's left is the busywork of filling everything out (maps, sounds, graphics, etc.), fixing bugs, and testing balance. It's a time-consuming process, but the hardest parts are done.

I voted for July, but I think it will be out in late June or early July. I would be surprised if it went later than August.

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Originally posted by itssantos

5 v 5 our team would be
Thief (me)
Brother(guardian)
Elementalist(co-worker)
Mesmer (frienD)
Engineer (friend)

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I didn't know they had a brother class. Is that like a monk? Nice that you got your parent/guardian to play.

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Originally posted by cippalippa

I'm actually concerned about the hybrid nature of the gold currency in GW2 as it has been planned and showed.

Because selling gems for gold means that the gold currency will be always partially real money, even for a player who didn't touched the shop once in his life.

Is like playing poker or black jack... because indeed is a game with some real money, even if you are just shooting fireballs at goblins... and then, having to do do with money, will it be a money-game or a job?

Also the in-game economy will be partially influenced by the real local economy pertinent to the local server, thus e.g. in a european server, will a player from greece/italy/spain/pourtugal feel the weakness of its economy partially reflected in his in game transactions, if compared to a player from scandinavia/germany/uk? i'm wondering.

This real/virtual blurry boundary the gold currency will have in game is a little creepy.

I never played Eve, but if it is similar to that one planned for gw2, so are my thoughts on the nature of its economy. 

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This concern is lessened significantly because gems cannot be sold for real money. It's a one way transaction, and so gems have no cash value. They can only be used to buy virtual goods in GW2.

"Cashing out" requires the use of (shady) third-party services and can get you permanently banned.

This is why I think the purchase of physical items with gems should never be allowed.

In the recent Yogscast WvW video, Lewis mentions a "Fast Cast Ground Target" option. This option allows the player to press a ground-targeted skill only one time to cast it at the location of the mouse cursor instead of pressing it once to enter targeting mode and a second time to actually cast. This made me realize how easily two other options could be implemented that I think fans of certain other action MMOs might appreciate. Before I start, none of these options change the functionality of targeting or spell aiming. This is merely a camera preference. The most significant change (the fast casting mode) is already implemented.

Crosshair Mode

When in mouselook mode (holding right-click by default), the cursor is centered and changes to look like a semi-transparent crosshair of sorts. When in this mode, left-mouse allows you to click on things instead of moving your forward. That is, it functions as it does when not in mouselook mode.

Mouselook Toggle

Changes mouselook mode from "hold" to "toggle". By default, holding right-click changes to mouselook mode. With this option enabled, right-clicking once enters mouselook mode, and right-clicking a second time exits mouselook mode. That's all this option does.

Mixing these two options with Fast Cast Ground Target could give the camera control a slightly different feel. Players used to MMOs with manual aiming systems would likely want to enable all three. Some players might only want one or two. I know a lot of people hold right-click nearly all the time. Mouselook Toggle might be useful for them even without the other options. Crosshair Mode makes it easier to aim ground-targeted abilities when in mouselook mode. Fast Cast Ground Target is already in the game and quite convenient as Yogscast has shown.

Which combination of these three options would you use? Is there a way they could be improved? I'd like to see what sort of interest there is in these features as I'll probably make a thread about them as soon as I can once the official forums are open.

This would be a bad idea. A video card can be sold by the consumer at or just under the MSRP. This would indirectly give monetary value to gold, as permitted by ArenaNet. In other words, it's a loophole that allows you to sell gold for real money without getting banned.

While I won't deny that goldsellers will exist, the average player will have little incentive to farm gold for gems unless he wants something in the gem store or just wants to store his gold as gems in case of inflation. It's a bad idea to give a player a way to "cash out" his gems. It creates a different environment and puts pressure on the player to play the game in a way opposed to "fun" in order to maximize real world profits.

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Originally posted by evicton

Just saw alot of back and forth on it at guru and wondered how you all felt.

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You show me a feature ArenaNet has announced, and I'll show you a feature that's had a lot of "back and forth" at Guru.

GvG is redundant with tournament mode. There was no reason to require players to be in a guild in order to participate in certain game types.

They're launching with only Conquest mode for separate reasons. Other mode types may appear later on, but none of them will require you to be in a guild.

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Originally posted by Ezekel

There is no autobalace, and even if there is then you can probably set the server to not do so.

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There is definitely autobalance. It functions similarly to TF2 autobalance, except that during the warning it gives players the option to switch manually.

There might be a way to turn it off, but I hope not. Most players don't understand why such features are absolutely necessary for a fun game and most would likely turn it off. Repeated facerolls due to unbalanced teams isn't fun for anyone participating. Turning off autobalance so that you an your friends can win repeatedly with no effort equates to griefing.

EDIT: It should be obvious, but autobalance does not happen in tournaments.

I think people should have to earn respect.

The two things that really stand out as being different from WAR are supply and safe zones.

WAR didn't have anything vaguely resembling supply. If the keep wasn't attacked for around five minutes the door would instantly reset. In GW2, starving a keep of supply by eliminating supply routes (the tower in the video had no supply routes) is extremely effective. They can't repair the door or walls, and they can't build siege weapons. You can't just turtle in a keep all day and expect to hang onto it.

Safe zones are another big deal. In WAR, a lot of keeps were a short walk from a friendly outpost. This made it too easy to zerg keeps, and there was nothing you could do about those safe zones, to which players often fled. Keeps in GW2 have towns inside of them. The ability to respawn in one of those towns is an upgrade that has to be purchased, and if the keep is taken, you completely lose that spawn point. It makes territory control much more dynamic than in WAR.

ArenaNet has a good chance of beating Mythic at their own game.

Maybe one day everyone will understand and accept that sandbox and theme park are two completely separate subgenres and stop complaining, "There's nothing to do in this sandbox game!" or "There's no player-created content in this theme park game!"

It's like complaining that that there's no FFA Deathmatch in TF2. It's just a poorly thought out suggestion.

As far as I know this only happens on a per server basis. That is, each server has an "overflow" version of it. I haven't heard anything about it happening for each zone, but I'm not sure.

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Originally posted by UOvet

Is this different from how SWTOR does it? I know a lot of people in SWTOR complain the game doesn't feel like an MMO because the zones hold like 10 people it seems.

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The gameplay in SWTOR tends to break down when there are too many people in an area because the game is designed in a way that creates competition for quest objectives which causes players to resent one another.

Dynamic events and phased harvesting nodes do not have this effect. Content can become trivial if there are way too many people around, but you're never robbed of your ability to play or rewards as is the case in of most MMOs. Because of this, the player limits can be based on what the server can handle instead of trying to "optimize your personal gameplay experience".

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Originally posted by Dream_Chaser

Not quite as easy to see unless you look at the bigger picture.

• They were both the big bads in their respective first games.
• They both suffered because of the xenophobia of others. (Ascalonians/Quarians.)
• They were both taken advantage of by 'gods.' (Titans/Reapers.)
• They both decided that determining their own destiny was more important than having 'gods.'
• They both feel that they should independently find their own evolutionary path, unaided.They both have a highly organised military structure.
• They both had factions who were for and against false gods.
• They both had a figurehead for the 'no gods' faction. (Pyre Fierceshot/Legion.)
• They're both either fighting or have fought against their gods for their freedom.

And I could go on. But see? Lots of similarities!

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Welcome to fiction. We can say the same thing about Warcraft orcs.

• They were the big bads in their first game.
• They suffered because of the xenophobia of others. (Humans and Night Elves.)
• They were taken advantage of by 'gods.' (The Burning Legion.)
• They decided that determining their own destiny was more important than having 'gods.'
• They feel that they should independently find their own evolutionary path, unaided. (Orcs don't really have a rigid military structure, but neither do the geth.)
• They had factions who were for and against false gods.
• They had a figurehead for the 'no gods' faction. (Thrall.)
• They're either fighting or have fought against their gods for their freedom.

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Originally posted by pikweed

They talk about removing the boring things about MMOs but this game isn't even an MMO. The economy is basically non-existant compared to other games, there's no exploration and the entire game is instanced. They want everyone to feel like a "hero", and everyone to feel like what they are doing actually matters. Instancing everything is counter intuitive to this.

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0/10

On the off chance that you aren't trolling, GW2 (unlike GW1) has a persistent world just like nearly every other MMO. Events are not in instances.

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Originally posted by AtmaDarkwolf

Well I think this thread has anwserd my question(aswell as spin off into other areas) and its helped me decide.
 
I'll try GW2, but I won't be dropping any money on it yet. Tera, aside from the... questionable designs of some characters, has the combat I've been searching for(Like what kept me playing DDO for so long)
 
I absolutly am finished with the tab-tab-mash key-tab style combat, and I am sick of having my char move independent of the camera(As it looks and sounds like gw2) with the 'option' of holding down the right mouse to freelook(Bad idea imo)
 
Teara's control/combat system was win-win, even WITH the animation locks(It made sense,as said before, was a trade off, you can't expect to swing madly spinning, yet have fluid control and do said spins and such while also keeping balance while zipping 180% around, can you?)
 
From the looks of it, GW2 will simply be a cooldown race game.. as in the guy with the skill that cools down first will likley win the battle, since facings and 'control' don't have much else to do with it. Minimizes the challange when I can just spam a skill willy nilly and have it hit my 'tabbed target', and ontop of all that, just not allowing 'hard' mouselook kinda kills the expereince for me in many games. (Its just one step down from a pnc game imo)
 
I am not trying to cause a flame war about the merits of either game, I will try GW2 but as far as it goes NOW, with what ive seen/heard/learned, tera just has a much more apealing combat/control system imo.

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Why did you even make this thread? You had obviously already made up your mind. You can't be bothered to research GW2's combat on your own, you already prefer Tera's combat, and you completely disregard what people say about GW2's combat in favor of your own preconceptions that it's a "cooldown race game". Don't ask people what the combat's like if you're going to ignore them and end the thread with the same misconceptions you started with.

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Originally posted by Elminzter

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Originally posted by Shroom_Mage

 

Here we go again. You're on your own this time.

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lol thanks for trying to help^^

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I was talking to Sector, actually.

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Originally posted by Sector13

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Originally posted by Shroom_Mage

 

Here we go again. You're on your own this time.

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Never implied you did.

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Originally posted by Pivotelite

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Originally posted by Shroom_Mage

 

Here we go again. You're on your own this time.

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It's best to try to leave Sector alone, he's difficult. <3

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I'm noticing.

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Originally posted by Sector13

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Originally posted by Shroom_Mage

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Originally posted by Sector13

Don't see your point here. Paying real money for in game gold = P2W to some people. Or is that too complex for you to understand?

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I know you said "to some", but when you mix it in with "I'd rather not have to buy a game that is P2W" it makes it a little hard to tell what you're trying to say.

I hope you don't personally think chronoscrolls are P2W, because that's almost exactly how gems work in GW2. Some people say that counts as P2W, too, but...

Where exactly are you going with this?

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That's exactly why I said it. People are accusing GW2 for being P2W for the same thing. So then TERA to those people would be considered P2W, so I stated, if I'm going to play a P2W game anyway then I might as well play one that I don't have to buy. Which was refering to Vindictus as stated earlier.

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You're mixing in "some people's" opinion with your own which is making your posts really vague. You're making fairly objective statements, but it really does look like you're suggesting that you agree with "people" that think these games qualify as P2W.

Your personal opinion doesn't make much difference to me, but that type of posting is going to bait out fanboys like crazy, as we've seen. "Some people think X, and if I was one of them..." Yeah.

Here we go again. You're on your own this time.