All Posts by bigtime102

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Originally posted by thekid1

16 vs 16 player matches.
I can see why you cal this an mmo..

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So how many people do you have to see and interact at once with to call it a MMO?

I can play Joint Operations Typhoon Rising on a 250 player server, thats more people im playing with than any so called "mmo" out there. "MMO" is just marketing buzz word that really means "online game" which existed far before the RPG nerds got a hold of the idea of playing games online. They've been so slow to evolve they're still charging monthly fees for this crazy new thing called "online games" WOW amazing!!

fp2 model is nothing new, it existed before mmo's. Its how every game was made before mmo's the only difference is that the games werent updated, but at the same time the games were finished and bug free.

I dont find it surprising that you can make a good game charge a flat fee for it and make lots of money. What really suprised me was the pay 2 play model and how successful it was. But i think those days are over or are ending soon. They could get away with monthly fees when there were no other games like them out on the market but just look to your left and see how much junk is out there asking for $15. The golden age of getting rich quick off 3d chatrooms is over thanks to guild wars who can do the same thing without a monthly fee, and do it better.

Eventually they're going to have to make more innovative games to justify charging $15 a month. I know myself, I havent even looked at any p2p fantasy mmo since Guild Wars came out. and now that Im satified it can be done and done well I dont see any reason why other games cant do the same. Unfortunately they still think they can make worse games than guild wars and charge $15. That will change soon, GW was a pioneer and GW2 should be the nail in the coffin for these crap games.

LOL buy an expansion for a pay to play game? So what are you exactly paying for monthly? I thought it was for updates and new content, but I guess you gotta buy that too, hmmm... suckers.

I was looking for a game and found one!!! - Combat Arms - check it out if you like FPS's. Pretty shallow but what can you epect from a free game. It plays smooth and good no complaints there, could be more deeper bigger maps. Looks basically like bf2. Im liking this better than Planetside so who knows what they can do with it, looks like a lot of servers are busy too. The game just started not long ago so its fresh if anyones interested google Combat Arms its free and half a gig to d/l not much. Got it from and ad off this site BTW. Ill be fragging you fools in game.

Well I love instancing in games that know how to do it, it keeps the public retards out of your game.

I see no use in perstistant worlds in PVE games if you want to play with friend group up with your friends no ones stopping you, but to force everyone into one large pug (which is what persistance is) is not giving player the option. When you unwillingly force people into one large PUG which is what persistance is, it no longer becomes PVE, its becomes PVPVE.

Persistance only makes sense in PVP in PVE theres tricks and things that can get around the problem of nobody being around, theres is more drawbacks in persitant world PVE ie- graphic limiations, content limitations, gameplay limitiations which do more harm than the good. So whats all this good stuff that comes out of persistant worlds? dont tell me is the emmersion of seing some random guy run by you that youll ingore. Youre going to gimp the PVE experience just for that?

Guild Wars is a fine example where instancing works, the zones are large enough that youre rarely loading screen and theres plenty of people to form parties with if you get lonely, all with out persitance and gameplay graphics and content excelled as a result.

Id like to think of Persistant worlds as free for all pve, and just like free for all PVP its usually filled with griefers. Theres no reason to add a persistant world to PVE content which should be single player or co-operative experience, the point being that you have that option to choose to play the PVE content by yourself or with your invited friends, but not forced into a public PVE free for all called persistant world.

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Originally posted by Majinash
Guild Wars is a very PvP based game. I'm not saying its ONLY PvP, not by a long shot. there is a lot of PvE content, but back in the day the PvE content was just to unlock all the PvP items and skills you needed for that.

The hardcore aspects of the game are Titles, and PvP rank. Some titles are easy, like the protector titles and even the spearmarshal title. some take hundreds of hours, and others have never been maxed out (gladiator title)
PvP rank comes down to Hero battles and guild battles. anyone can do them, you can hop right into HA without anyone else (its 1v1 with heroes you control), and for GvG you just need to grab a guild, or be guest invited into one. you can even use a few heroes to fill out your team.
However only hardcore players ever get up to the high ranked guilds. and its not just a timesink, you have to be decent at it.

So while i wouldn't rate it as hardcore when put next to say... Lineage2. its got a very deep and complex PvP system and has some things in the game you won't be able to finish as a casual.

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Id disagree about Guild Wars being PVP heavy game, infact thats pretty much laughable since any moron could tell you just by the population of the PVP areas that only maybe 5% of the total playewrbase is PVP'ing.

PVP is nice but no mistake this game is mostly about PVE with all the content, titles, events etc. Like I said just go into any pvp area and count the people then goto a town, its obviouse whos playing what. If youre want deep but casual PVP game youll be disappointed with this game unless you join a guild, but thats just a bad excuse since everything even work is fun with guildes/friends. Theres better PVP games out there but this one is definately one of the best PVE experiences out right now.

Whats up with all the spam this site puts out? even after unsubscribing from all the spam crap im still getting spam crap from this website. In otherwords the "unsubsribe from crap" isnt working. Fix it. Thank you.

The question should be more like "what MMO ISNT group based" because last i checked everyone has the option to group up with people. Just because it isnt forced doesnt mean the option isnt there so if what youre asking is what games force you to group well then I cant tell you I dont play those games and by the looks of it most dont either.

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Originally posted by checkthis500

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Originally posted by bigtime102

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Originally posted by Baldhor
The game include 30 days of playtime, after that you must renew/cancel

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No, the game includes 30 days of "free" playime not $50 worth of playtime. So according to Funcom you youre not paying $50 for the 30 days youre paying $50 for a cardboard box.
That means once you pay for the cardboard box and take it home, you should consider yourself lucky funcom lets you even play it. Because thats not what youre paying $50 for, according to Funcom you paid $50 to for a box and they were just nice enough to include "30 days free".
So to the OP... thats all you have to know, the 30 days of play time is a privelage, a bonus, an act of kindness by funcom, not your right.
You paid $50 for a cardboard box. (*includes free ink)

*Free Ink subject to monthly charge.

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You pay $50 for the software. You pay an additional $15 a month to use their servers for your play time.
So $50 bucks for the game, with a free 30 days. Which afterwards you pay $15 a month for.....

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No the box says the 30 days is free, that means youre not paying $50 for 30 days of playtime, youre paying $50 for everything else but the $30days of playtime, which is nothing but a box.

This isnt my opinion this is what Funcom says. And if you buy this game you agree to the deal. Sucker.

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Originally posted by Baldhor
The game include 30 days of playtime, after that you must renew/cancel

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No, the game includes 30 days of "free" playime not $50 worth of playtime. Thats what it says on the BOX. So according to Funcom you youre not paying $50 for the 30 days youre paying $50 for a cardboard box.

That means once you pay for the cardboard box and take it home, you should consider yourself lucky funcom lets you even play it. Because thats not what youre paying $50 for, according to Funcom you paid $50 to for a box and they were just nice enough to include "30 days free".

So to the OP... thats all you have to know, the 30 days of play time is a privelage, a bonus, an act of kindness by funcom, not your right.

You paid $50 for a cardboard box. (*includes free ink)

*Free Ink subject to monthly charge.

This game gives you 30 days for free? Cool were do I get it? becase at the store they want to charge me $50.

Why do they charge more? because stupid people deserve to be scammed. They're not charging you idiots enough.

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Originally posted by MaGicBush
What? Hardly a MMORPG..

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Right, if its not unfinished, buggy and cost $15 a month its not a MMORPG.

And I agree with you, games like Diablo and GuildWars arent MMORPG's they're actual games.

They already have its called Guild Wars.

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Originally posted by Arclan...

Other than WoW, what solo-friendly is a success? ...

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Guild Wars sold 5 million copies, thats more than Diablo, what was the reason? SOLO FRIENDLY PLAY .

By adding Hereo's or Henchmen (ai helpers) to your party you didnt need to LFG to beat the game. And what do you know.. a game that actually let you beat it without arbitrarily forcing you to organize with strangers. Count me in, and millions of others.

Grouping should always been an option but never a requirment. Games are for entertainment, and some find things like PUGs RP servers entertainment but these types are by far the minority as Guild Wars has showed.

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Originally posted by alowe56

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Originally posted by hardcase

Post your problem in the Forums Windows Help thread. Are you using a USB kb? THere can be conflicts in ww2ol using a USB JS and KB with one or more of the HID drivers. Check the sticky for SGTSpoon in that forum or google his site..SGTSpoon.. Also you must map the throttle in keymapper. Select GAS/Throttle under fighter bobmers..tanks etc and move the throtle.Ususaly shows as Slider 1. Betting you prob is the USB one. You can try to disable one HID at a time to find the one that is causing the problem, cheange to a PS2 KB using a usb/ps2 adapter, boot with the ps2 and launch ww2ol then install the USB KB. Hope this helps.

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I can't post in Playnet's forums. Currently, new registrations are suspended. So I can't post any messages there. I went through the controller setup, in the keymapper. It picked that stuff up, but it still doesn't work right.
Obviously, there's something I'm missing, but I can't log into the forums to get help!!! Oh well, I guess the game really doesn't want me to play it.

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They dont allow trialers access to the Forums because they figure if you hate the game you'll love the forums and therefore subscribe. They must be betting on the fact that youll be frustrated, look for help, find out you need to subcribe to get any help and come crawling to them with your $$. They're just playing hard to get. Or maybe they really dont want you... sorry.

You cant call yourself a PVP game when you got an uneven playing field. If youre looking for an even playing field in pvp your playing the wrong games, these types attract those carebear pvp'ers that need artifical time based skill development to make up for any real pvp skill they have. Youre playing the wrong games, GuildWars is close with the low level cap everyone pvp'ing has the same stats on weapons and gear and they are the same level, Eve is a farce and just a scam that is not a pvp game.

PVP games require balance, something RPG nerds just dont want, they want to gank lowbies. 80 levels of differing power is not balance, therefore its not PVP, its a gankfest. Good PVP games are like sports , and like sports they have rules that dont let certain gameplay styles in that arent in the spirit of competetion. Get over it and move on, let them play their griefer games and support games that know how to do PVP which unfortunately right now isnt many mmorpg's.

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Originally posted by alowe56
I can't get my CH-Products joystick to work with this game. Not for flying, and not for driving vehicles.
I can't get any help from the help channel. No ONE ever responds when I call for help.
I can't even log into the forum and ask there, since NEW registrations have been disabled.
In short, I can't play the damn game!!!

FIX IT!!! FIX IT!!! FIX IT!!! FIX IT!!! FIX IT!!! FIX IT!!!

Thank you for reading my rant.

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When the game tells you it doesnt want you there believe it... if youre not an old bitter fart this game isnt for you.

This is a skill based game, as such anyone whos intersted in competing in PVP and doesnt want to grind PVE for a few months to get all the skills is given the option to buy the skill pack. It took me a couple of years to finish the games content and I still havent unlocked all the skills, but then again im not into the PVP part of this game so i dont care, but if was into pvp I cant imagine someone wanting to wad through all the content just to be competative in pvp. I wish they handles this a little better because part of the reason I never got into pvp was because I was to busy doing PVE and knew I wouldnt be competative until i got most of the skills and all of the attribute point, which can take forever. You can make a seperate PVP character that gets max level stats and attributes but whats the fun in that? I wanted to take my PVE character into PVP but that just didnt work out. But that was their idea to have PVP as the end game but really people into PVP dont want it to be a reward for completing PVE they just wanna pvp.

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Originally posted by Thillian
GW is not skill based doh. GW is classes/levels. And besides, GW is probably one of the worst games I ever tried. It's not really MMORPG. It's spammed with instances. A game OP was asking about should be a sandbox like upcoming Darkfall or Earthrise.
Anyway to give my piece of advice, the only true sandbox games out there are not EVE online and UO. Shadowbane is probably a wasteland at the moment.

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For me anyway the instancing in Guild Wars is a strength, I see no need to fraternize with random people while im out farming or questing or whatever. And if im in the mood thats whats towns are for. I enjoy the fact I get my own private copy of the world when I leave town and can invite who I want to share it with me.
Ive played other so called sandbox games and its such an emmersion breaker seeing everyone runing around doing the same quest as me or wating for a boss to spawn, wth? how is everyone doing the same quest as me? how is that even possible!? spawning enemies? is this doom? what the hell that guy just stole my kill, whos game is this? this is pve I dont need to share this a bunch of kids running aorund being idiots, im playing a game and the only thing that open worlds do is get people in my way. That my personal pereference in how i play my games and GW gives me the option to play it that way.

Im willing to bet you anything that if these other games gave the option to have your own private instance to do a quest or a public area to do a quest 99% of the players would choose a private instance over the public areas. Its kinda like pugs, given the option people would rather group with people they know, thats why games that forced you to group with players to get through content failed. An uninstanced world is basicaly 1 giant group you didnt invite into your party. And maybe for games without content thats fine where the people are the content but in games that acutally do care about the conent and how it plays, why on earth do you want uninvited guests unless its PVP I dont see the reason, and at the very leaste there should be an option.

And thats how I view instances in guild wars, an option to play the game in private without any hassels, the key here is you got options.