Any human with a mature mind know that good and evil are only subjective concepts, and the universal good/evil do not really exists..

I think i am doing the right thing, and does i am good, and who does the opersite is evil, even though he is properly thinking the same thing.

So it absolutely POINTLESS to EVER discuss good and evil, because who you agree with is "good" to you, but some other WILL feel the same way.

Pick your side, and know it is because you agree with them, and drop all that bs about good and evil....

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Originally posted by pittel

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Originally posted by Skooma2

Play with the big kids and get Norton.

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My stomach is still hurting, I was laughing so hard at this.

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yea i agree that a blind hate for no reason (or a stupid reason) is very silly.. Personally i played guild wars in beta and bought the game, though i didn't play it more than a month after i bought it. i know alot of people still like it and i have no problem with it...

I am not a person without hate for certain mmos developers though.. I am a Ex swg vet and as you all properly know, there are alot of swg vets that are rather upset with SOE, but i think we got a more legitimate reason, cause we had played a game for years, had outstanding subscriptions and many preorderd an expansion, and then they suddenly changed the entire game mechanics, even dough there was a massive uproar from the community.
We also got lied to a lot, like "we threw away the old code (no one that has ever worked in software development will do that", etc.
Because of this i will never by a game that is under SOE anymore, because i have no trust in them. i dont want to make a half year subscription or even a month when i know SOE have the balls to change the entire game mechanics, no matter what the community says.

ps. i know people are pretty darn tired that we keep bringing this up, but in this case (when talking about hate) it is relevant.

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Originally posted by FikusOfAhazi

This thread proves what we've all thought of the Senate program all along at least. We told you Greypawn. We knew SOE better than you...Noob. Someone who cared never stood a chance. Theres only one position SOE ever wanted a player to have....face down, ass up. Always been that way. But, we told ya that.

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True. SOE dont give a s... about what their customers want. if they could they would properly rip out the thongs of anyone who says ANYTHING contrary to their opinion.

SOE is the gaming company iv ever experienced that screws over their customers the most... It is like SOE comes from bizzarow world, where you pay companies to knock you around and swallow their bull....

I sure had learned by lesson! If a game is even remotely connected to SOE, STAY CLEAR OF IT!!!

I am curious. How do you "handle" knowing how things turn out story wise (timeline, the movies etc.).
For me i try convincing my self that SWTOR takes place in an alternative timeline/Dimension, so anything can happen. (string-theory or Multiverse FTW!)

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In brief, one aspect of quantum mechanics is that certain observations cannot be predicted absolutely. Instead, there is a range of possible observations each with a different probability. According to the MWI, each of these possible observations correspond to a different universe

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The system was the same in SWG preneg and it worked fine. Yea the game sucks now, but many people liked the game before (had about 200k subs IF i remember correctly) (PreNEG).

About te Cortosis i had posted a link but i can prepost it agian.
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Cortosis

Sure it wasent mentioned in the movies, but there have made more SW stories than the movies

When telling a story you create your universe. Bioware is creating a SW universe where lightsabers arent so crazy ass powerfulas lukases, but if you want them to be in the same universe then ok here is 2 reasons.
1. This is before what you saw in the movies! maby lightsaber technology wasn't that advanced.
2. There are materials that are lightsaber resistant or lightsaber disrupting in the universe. Cortosis is just one example. Maby they where wearing that. it would make sense to have lightsaber resistant armour when attacking a sith warship.
Cortosis starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Cortosis
 
 
The game would SUCK for anyone that isent a jedi/sith, if jedis/siths sabres where as powerful as you want!

MMO_Doubter

Voice overs are VERY important for me for immersion. Every time I have to read what a char says instead of I can hear it, I loose my "immersion".

Btw about your 1 blaster shot HIT should kill, and lightsabers should cut though flesh like butter. This wouldent work. It would just be a shitload of one kills. No fun and it would make the classes VERY imbalanced.. EVERY starwars game i have played it has ALWAYS been the way SW:TOR is.

First off. Chill guys and girls.

2nd Name ONE bad bioware game!

3rd. It is impossible to satisfy everyone, unless they make 50+ different versions of the game.

4th it is still VERY early. Things can change very easily. ffs it is a mmo, things can even change very drastically AFTER launch. Imagine what can happen before launch.

Me personally, i am a big wow hata, but this game looks VERY promising! i really dont se any similarities besides the basic class system and weapons stats etc. BLIZZARD DIDENT INVENT THESE THINGS! and it is an insult to all mmo gamers claming that they did!
I love it looks. I love the voiceovers (tired of reading text when playing mmos), I love the combat, looks very entertaining.

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Originally posted by Blackdragun
It's amazing, after the NGE our entire guild quit. We were based on Flurry and had been playing for a very long time. I just re-up'd 2 of my accounts paying 6 months for each of them (talk about anger). I love the crafting/housing/city theme in this game. It was 100% player driven. I did enjoy WoW after SWG and currenlty am in Runes of Magic. Nothing comes close to the crafting theme in SWG. This game (pre NGE) was all about the players, helping one another complete a large variety of missions. There were quest lines but IMO very different then the normal "Pick up a quest - run here - kill that - drop off a quest" We did have a close group of gamers playing for several years together. It's been hard finding another game that everyone enjoys playing and everytime I read one of these articles it makes me very upset all over again. The loss of friends, loss of money, loss of quality entertainment. Sony acted like a bad president, made a HUGE mistake but is sticking by it to not admit they did anything wrong.
I can understand making changes to a game and finding out "Hey, this was a bad idea" and fix it. Not just drive it into the ground. Gezz, its been a while since I ranted about SWG - still feels the same though.
Join us on Runes of Magic
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Yea i reaallllly miss preneg SWG. The community was just SOOO good. I miss alot of the people (especially guildees). iv played alot of mmos and other game since, but nothing has come close to preNEG SWG

Lol darkfall will never reach more than MAX 500k subs, and even that is VERY optimistic. Even if darkfall was 100% free they wouldent go beyound that. They would have to PAY people to reach milions. (i dont like either game, WOW is shallow and superficial, like a reality show. Darkfall looks and feels like shit like a hangover).

Well it appered to me that "shit" is a purely subject term.
To me wow and darkfall are very shitty.

One is very superficial game, with a core-target ordiance of people of the age of 15 and under, with cartoonish graphics, and VERY simplistic gameplay (wow).

The otherone is a game that looks like DnL 2.0, wierd way of controling, with some other serious issues (like subscriber limit)(darkfal).

To other to other people they accualy look good. Ones man shit is another mans gold, i guess (uh mental picture)

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Originally posted by Seen_Justice

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Originally posted by tfwarlord

you should count you self lucky you dont like in denmark. Our VAT (called Moms in danish) is at 25%, and that is on top of the 40% A-tax (the lowest tax level. we have 3), and other taxes (like AM which is at 8%).....

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Yeah but having one of the best educational and health system in the world has it's cost.
I would take the quality of life of any middle class Denmark citizen "any day of the week" before an american one. Tax means nothing. You got to take everything into consideration and look at the final result. Survey says quality of like in Denmark is among the best, while US is one of the worst of the civilized world.
So root for Obama to implement this, and hopefully this money will repair your school and give some health care coverage to the most needed in your society.
BTW: I live in canada, and our Tax rate is at 12% and i really don't care so long as i don't have to mortgage my house every time i catch the flu.

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i know. I wouldent like anywere ells (why i wrote in #4 hehe yea well, because our of our high taxes we dont have to fear poverty and theres free healthcare for everyone, we get PAIED to go to collage / university etc. I earn enough money to buy the stuff i want + a substansial extra for a nestegg.)
It was also what i was trying to illustrate, though i can see from your comment that i failed :-/

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Originally posted by Kyleran

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Originally posted by tfwarlord you should count you self lucky you dont like in denmark. Our VAT (called Moms in danish) is at 25%, and that is on top of the 40% A-tax (the lowest tax level. we have 3), and other taxes.....

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  We own too many guns for our leaders to attempt this.  

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Yea OP its like Kyleran says. We have this tax in europe, and we still buy and play alot of mmos. If you can afford to maintain a concurrent computer today (i have a Core-i7 with gb of ddr3 ram, with a nvidia Gforce 285 Zotac Amp! graphics card my self) you can afford subscribing a mmo. Most people in the western world with a computer can scratch up 10-25$ each months, if its something they really want to do.

UPDATE
hehe well theres something we are best at www.libraryspot.com/know/highesttax.htm

you should count you self lucky you dont like in denmark. Our VAT (called Moms in danish) is at 25%, and that is on top of the 40% A-tax (the lowest tax level. we have 3), and other taxes (like AM which is at 8%).....

I am abit curious how heavy the instanceing will be on such a game, because from seeing the trailers its clear to me that it has to be on the heavy side, if the game should have a fps over 10 that is...

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Originally posted by catlana
I have played both. I definitely prefer AoC. I like the graphics, story, and combat system in AoC more. AoC has come a long way since their crappy launch.

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Originally posted by Mrbloodworth
You can also try
Planetside
Savage 2: A Tortured Soul
 

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Download it at http://savage2.com/en/

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Originally posted by Sneakers05
My guild leader was like lets get down to buisness...tonight..we raid ulduar..then I was but i dont think Im ready...he was like shut up you noob...you`re the saddest nub..I have ever met..but you can bet before were through...I will make a man out of your shaman, I was like but I am already a man then he was like DIE...
Then he made me go to our shaman class leader for more training...he was like set your skill rotation to increase your DPS..i was like hey i think i got it...oooh look out a...mobbbb..then my guild leader said your a spineless pale pathetic noob..and you havent got a clue..some how ill make a man out of your shamannnnn...
I was like Omg this is worse then death..i hope this guild doesnt screw me out of loot..then he was like whats wrong nub out of mana? I was like i cant believe these virgins....the guild told me I better watch just what i say...
The entire guild was then like your lightening bolt spell haste must be swift as a coursing river..with all the spell power of a great typhoon...with all the spell hit of a raging fire..mysterious as the dark side of the moooon...
The guild leader was like time is racing forward...until we.... raidddd...so shut the hell up shaman and keep on training so you might survive...I was like am i ready yet? He was like no noob no your not...I was like how bout now..he was like NO GOD DAMN IT YOU NOOOB....
Then as I was training they were like you must be a man you are...You must be swift as a coursing river..with all the force of a great typhoon..with the strength of a raging fire...as mysterious as the dark side of the moooooon...BE A MAN...
Then as they took me to ulduar I was like I must be swift as a coursing river...be a man...with all the force of a great typhoon... .. be a man...with the strength of a raging fire...mysterious as the dark side of the moooon
Thats when I accidentally agroed the Flame Leviathan and wiped the raid by mistake and was /gkicked.
Is that fair?

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ffs please stop the hiphop linquo.. if you want me (cant talk for anyone ells) to take you the least bit serious, dont write sentences like this "he was like shut up you noob". Also please dont use triple punctuation for every other sentence.