I can't believe this thread has this many responses.

Who the hell cares. If you're gonna pick on MMO's doing things that don't make sense, what about warriors surviving big ass hits by these 30 foot x 10 feet wide muscled behomoths. I mean, no human being regardless of their armor can take a full on hit from a 30x10 muscled behomoth regardless of the armor you are wearing. Unless of course it is magic but still. Oh well.

I like the pictures of chainmail bras :).

Hmm my idea.

1) Exploration MMO. Where the world is huge and you have to explore and you can control certain areas like you can control areas in EVE.

2) These areas are in the "underdark" or through some high mountain chain or various islands that need crafted briges drills or whatever to reach.

3) Once you get to these areas via exploration and/or engineering you have raids/dungeon/resource nodes available to you that differ.

For example, go into the underdark, go exploring for 2 hours in the maze, find a conquierable area and find a special instance that your guild has control over and you can give access to other players. Hence, you make open PvP worth it.

Cryomatrix

I'm close to subbing to Vanguard just had some station account issues cuz they're lame
Playing LOTR with a friend to start her off on MMO's
Little bit of ps3 the show baseball game
and of course i play the jerkoff mmo title ... doesn't even require money just pride.

Open PvP adds a dangerous element to things.

My example comes from WoW 2005 when i used to play a horde orc hunter. I'd be leveling and I'd kill any alliance person I saw. It was a nice diversion from hunting and made you have to watch your back.

One night I just went and started ganking up a storm in that crater place (lvl 48-lvl 52 or so) and it was a blast. I'd just gank any alliance.

It adds a nice aspect to it. In EVE it was fun to have intelligence tell you where people have setup roadblocks and what to avoid when going to secure space. It overall adds a lot of fun as long as the world is big enough.

It does suck to want to level but you know you'll be ganked or attacked quickly. I remember WoW escort missions and i'm like please don't let any alliance come around. But it just adds fun, anything that raises your heart rate in an mmo is great.

Cryomatrix

This thread indicates that there aren't any good MMO's out there that people would even discuss a shark mmo.

. . . whale shark = tanking, blue shark = is fastest shark i believe.

Cryomatrix

Persistent and dynamic world (instances can be used in the world similar to WoW where you had to travel to the area).

I just wnat a world that I can influence and change that is persistent nad dynamic that's all.

Cryomatrix

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Originally posted by Dibdabs

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Originally posted by Adoni
Has housing become a obsolete feature in mmorpgs?

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More like pointless, at least to many.  I've played two or three games that feature player housing and, for me, all it's good for is the extra storage slots they usually come with.  I have utterly no interest in filling it with pointless eye-candy like furniture and trophies.

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Housing that is instanced is completely pointless in my opinion, it's just so the game can say there's player housing when it's just a fancier version of a bank that you can decorate.

Player housing in SWG was what I consider player housing, you'd be adventuring and see someone's house and decide to go into it to see how it is. That was awesome, when i played last year i was in a guild well known for crafting and people would come to our city to buy stuff cuz that was how we marketed ourselves. That's real player housing, SWG back in its heyday must have been amazing but alas I join it toward the end of its life.

Great game, a bit clunky, but great for sandboxing.

Cryomatrix

Permadeath can work as long as it's an option of a game.

If you're making a stand alone game with permadeath in it, it will fail no matter how good it is. But a fun thing to do is to take one server of a game and label it the hardcore-permadeath server. That way you'll have a viable game with an ultrasmall and intense permadeath community.

I used to play diablo 2 hardcore server (PK and duel . . . never any hacks) the community is phenomenal. What made diablo 2 work is that you could save and exit at any time in the game giving yourself an instant transport which would allow you to get out of certain situations.

I like the novelty of your ideas but the surname thing just seems onerous to me. If i were instituting permadeath in a game it would be its own server, it would have an instant teleportation spell to port you to town if stuff gets hazy with 6 hour timer.

Another idea I had was something I call semi-permadeath.

Your character has 100 lives (or 25 or whatever). Each time you die you lose a life. If you fall to zero lives your char is dead. A person who has never died has access to special halos and titles and there's a ladder for those who never died. Then there's a 90+ life club (or whatever number), once you fall below a certain amount of lives you just become normal without any special halos or titles.

Nice to have ideas but permadeath can never work as the mainstay of any game. It must be a small offshoot. I think in diablo the numbers were like 90% played softcore and 10% played hardcore. If not 95/5 who knows. But the community in a permadeath or hardcore server is amazing.

Cryomatrix

I can't agree with you more.

I unfortunately quit EVE like 2.5 years ago and I wish i never did. It's a game where you can do whatever you wan and don't have to really grind anything unless you want to purchase something expensive.

I tried to get my accounts back that I sold but it's just too difficult to play a game from the start when you had 20 billion in liquid isk from before and 2 years of skills. But nonetheless I suggest anyone to try EVE and if you're looking for a sandbox feel try the missions for a few hours just get some cash and then go off in lower sec and try to have fun. It's worth it.

This post is awesome. I made my money by buying low in 0.0 sec space and then shipping eveyrthing up to Jita for 10-60% markup once you're doing 2-4 billion in commodities yo uend up making tons of money quickly.

Cryomatrix

Hey guys,

Thanks for your responses, i figured AAA meant the best of the best but me being a baseball fan was like, AAA . . . not major league?

Also, I feel that a movie worth paying for at the cinemas is one where a 100 million dollar budget was needed. I violate that rule all the time but usually i'm not disappointed when the price is $100.

Likewise with games.

I feel like playing lineage 2 again, if it wasn't for the friggin bots that directly hampered your gaming the game would have been amazing but i left cuz of the bots and the grind. Ridiculous really.

Oh well, who cares.

No game is going to have all those demands for me i find it wierd that what usually addicts me can be random at times and based on my mood, i mean, how the hell did i get addicted to Runes of Magic and Entropia universe . . .

I think someone should give me 1 billion dollars to play with so I can make my own video game :) or just buy a game withotu much financial support like mortal online, vanguard or whateve rand spruce it up.

bye

what does AA and AAA mean. I hear people say AAA title and what not, but i'm not sure what they exactly are referring to.

Tax guy,

your game doesn't exist.

Does anyone actually read this?

I'm trying perpetuum online as we speak (well downloading it). I'm MMO hopping after getting bored of Entropia (i'm a slot machine) Universe.

I tried Champions online and played for 1.5 hours and it wasn't for me
Global agenda was pretty decent but my comp sucks and it lagged making it not fun.

Hmm. If i don't like perpetuum online i think i'm going to be done with mmo's for awhile, i won't even mmo hop looking for the right one.

Cryomatrix

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Originally posted by Ifcwhuffes
Good sandbox game with nice environments... id suggest entropia. F2P game. Very enjoyable if you like sandboxes
Altough this game isnt for the impatient. If you would like to progress in the game in a timely manner, your gonna have to drop some cash into the game here and there. Professions play a big role in this game, Crafting, mining, Hunting, Can even build houses. uses the crysis engine i believe. Community is definietely good, lots of helpful players that help out the newbies. Might be worth checking out. If you do decide to play it, try to get into a new player friendly society.

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I like your sugar coating of entropia. You can't build houses in entropia, you can purchase apartments or a shop. An apt at the cheapest is around #30. The apts are usually around concentrated spots but I don't find them all that immersive because the game is this.

Entropia Universe = Slot machine

They cover up the slot machine behind a game. Every bullet you fire, every mining bomb you drop, every time you try to craft, every time your armor gets hit, every time you use a vehicle, you spend real money on it.

For example, on a hunting run i'll put in 300 in-game currency which equals $30 and then i'll go hunt and sometimes i'll get back $15, $20, $30, $30, of course you can get lucky and get back $300 like i did but the game functions like this.

You put in X amount of cash for mining/crafting/hunting and you get back approximately 80-90% of it in value over time. THat 10-20% is taken by the system and about 50% of that may be dished out to players. Every day a person wins about $1,000 to $2,000 for each profession. That's over thousands if not hundreds and thousands of clicks on the slot machine.

The way to stay afloat in this game is to exploit markup :)

Either way, it is sandbox style, people are friendly, but the game intrinsically sucks in my opinion and i only played it due to my gambling addiction. For a sandbox, they need more things to do other than just mine, craft, hunt, play the market.

Then again i'm MMO hopping and i don't think anything is better for me at the moment than this game. At hte least you can take something out of it if you get lucky.

Oh well, i'm rambling. i'd suggest you try it i guess, it needs more players imo to be even more successful but that' sjus tme.

Cryomatrix

Lineage 2 is nicely polished and they have a free trial as well, I'd say the closest thing to Lineage 3 is Aion which is made by the same company as lineage 2.

I personally don't like NCsoft games because i think they're made for botters but that's my opinion but it has amazing polish on the level of WoW and the grind is huge so it'll take awhile to get to max lvl. But great polish adn great game play i'd still be playing lineage 2 if it didn't have the bots, the bots, the bots, and the grind wssn't so ridiculous.

Cryomatrix

Runes of magic
Mage/priest combo :) healing and killing with the best of em.

I was only going to play the free trial most likely anyway and only if my i could access my lvl 70 gladiator and i had a lot of in-game money too i somehow starteda corp in game on hindemith and got a decent chunk of change and hten bought an S class armor off someone for super cheap like 1/5th the price and then sold it for 5times what i got it for but oh well.

It is stilla beautiful game and I did scoff at all the people who went to Aion expecting anything different from NCsoft. I do think they encourage people to bot and it is pathetic but why do we act naive, we know this world is all about money and eveyrthing comes down to it.

But yeah i remember getting 4-7% xp per hour grinding certain mobs and once i hit lvl 70 i had had enough of the game but when you're mmo hopping and L2 has good graphics and i saw someone say the bots disappeared then you got to try it right.

Oh well. Thanks for your input.

Cryo

I played L2 way back in the day probably 2006 or so and I was wondering two things.

1) Is my account and play still there, I had a lvl 70 gladiator and tons of in-game currency that i didn't buy :)

2) I quit mainly cuz of the bots and NCsoft's retarded policy that they were doing all they could to eliminate bots which was 100% false. I also quit cuz of the stupid grind but i'm mmo hopping so umm will my account be there from about 4-5 years ago? and what is the bot situation.

I mean the bots prevented you from even playing the game properly which is why it was so shameful that they were plagued by the bots.

thanks,

Cryo

p.s. if i do come back to L2 it will be funny considering how i vowed never to play another NCsoft game again after this one :)

p.s. I can't remember what my security code question is, the one that asks for favorite pet :(

Hey guys,

I was thinking about people saying what was their best experiences and i was wondering whether their best was due to:

1) Their first MMO
2) Not their first mmo

I guess in group 1, if it's like your first kiss, it's because of the novelty of experiencing your first MMO that makes it great. I think for me it was Diablo 2 hardcore servers, the community was amazing because it so well known and filled with hardcore players.

I think my first real MMO was WoW 2 and i played for 6 months and then quit, my longest mmo experience was EVE and i've embarrassingly played Lineage 2 and runes of magic for 6 months each . . . I played a bit of ddo and i've been playing Entropia universe for the past 9 months and not because it's a good game (because it intrinsically sucks) but it uses live money and is made for gambling addicts like myself.

I have never been able to recreate the feel I had in diablo 2 was it because i was most addicted to it then or was it because it was my first. I've been uber addicted to other games but that was probably to get away from RL responsibilities, I've rarely had a game with which I was like, "this is awesome" oh well.

Was your most awesome experience the first MMO you had or another one and why.

Cryomatrix
p.s. I basically come on these forums to look for what games are out recently and then when i find one and get addicted to it i don't come back for months. Hence, i found entropia universe and i'm ($1,000) down on gambling in it :( and now i'm downloading Ryzom and MOrtal Online, even though I doubt they'll run on my bug infested piece of crap known as my laptop.

toodles.

EVE - real time skill training

Diablo 2 = hirelings :)

lineage 2 = showing how bots can ruin a world

I'd suggest playing EVE and playing another game concurrently if you can afford the p2p stuff.

EVE takes awhile to get into and it's the only game i wish i never quit 1.5 years ago. Nonetheless, i'd start up a free trial of EVE and another game.

You can start training EVE skills and in the meantime play another game. Read up on EVE in the meanwhile and spend your time hacking away on the other game. When you eventually get bored of WoW or whatever game, you'll be very well skilled up in EVE and you'll have a blast.

Lineage 2 = overrun by bots completely
DDO = free but it is a bit slow but entertaining.

To be honest you should choose your game wisely because you are likely to fall in love with the first MMO you actually play.

Cryomatrix