Thanks guys. Sounds like a lot of stuff to  look into. Anarchy might be fun to get into again. Ryzom, isn't that free until level 120 or something? I dunno exactly...

Last I checked EQ2's f2p was incredibly gimped...

PotBS is sounding interesting too.. hmm..

But I never heard of Uncharted Waters Online

Thanks for the responses. PoTBS never intrigued me much, but I've tried Anarchy Online, and might try it again. I never did get into crafting the last time I tried it.

Are there any F2P MMOs that have a more in depth crafting system? Something a little more complex than "get these materials to make 1 sword" ?

I've tried Wurm Online and I found it to be too slow and out-dated...

I've heard Eden Online is a decent F2P game, what's the crafting like?

This reminds me of a time I was playing an instance in DCUO. I was playing an ice villainess named "Snowfake." I.e. FAKE. Like, Fake snow, or implying that the character has a "fake" personality or alter-ego.I thought it was a funny, comic-booky name to use for a villain in DCUO.

The people in the instance somehow got on the topic of villain names and were ranting (in voice chat, mind you) about how so many people try to pick names that are "too serious" for villain names. Then they mentioned aloud, "What kind of name is 'Snow Flake'? I mean really? A flake of snow? Come on."

At that point I activated my mic and tried to yell back at them, "Read it again, it says Snow FAKE, how is that a serious villain name?" But suddenly my mic produced extremely loud feedback in the chat channel and they all started screaming into their mics in agony...

Oh well...

I've actually been considering trying AC. I like older games. XP

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After reading this, it seems like you need to choose the same/similar class as your friend in order to quest with them in the beginning? (Else it's a lot of solo until you can?)

Yeah I thought of DS3 too, but the problem I heard with that is that the co-op is really badly done... the second player doesn't get anything, just sort of helps out. (Rather like the co-op in Fable 2 actually.)

What about that new co-op game, "Hunted: The Demon's Forge" ?

It got a lot of mixed reviews though

Oh yeah, Torchlight was really good!

Vindictus seems pretty cool so far, but Mytheon looks like it's gonna hit the spot. XD

Hi all,

Are there any somewhat recent games similar to Diablo 2? They don't have to be MMO's but I'd be looking for a closed online matchmaking system (like Bnet in Diablo 2) that prevents hacking. Basically I want a game like Diablo 2 or Titan Quest but with really good online play.

Any suggestions?

Yeah, I just got a key too!  Too bad I have to stay at work before I can actually start downloading it at home :(

Thanks for your input guys.

I guess I'll just see for myself. If I like it, great. If not, it wouldn't be the first time I wasted money on a game. haha

Hi all,

I've been wanting to try STO for a while now, but all I see is negativity surrounding the game. I'm trying to decide if I want to make that initial $50 plunge that so many are wary of.

I'm a college student and in general don't really have a lot of time to commit to the usual MMO... From what I've read, it seems like the major complaints about STO stem from the fact that it's sort of a casual MMO being either too simplistic or too non-traditional (as is the case with the loading/instancing complaints.) Well, an MMO that doesn't require a lot of time commitment is something I'd be willing to play at the moment. (I'm aware that that is somewhat of an oxymoron, but I do love MMOs for the online play and dynamic worlds, and just want to find one that doesn't need constant attention to have fun.)

My question is, all negativity aside,  is anyone willing to make a case that STO is a good "casual" MMO?

Originally posted by eyeswideopen

Lucas himself even admits the Empire/Sith are based on the Nazi regime, while the Republic was based on the Allies. So, I'll disagree with the OP's idea of which side is the "good guys".

The Sith Empire is evil. The Sith Code is not necessarily evil. The latter is what the OP was saying. The former is somewhat irrelevant.

EDIT: It was even his first statement:  "Speaking in terms of Sith vs. Jedi, not Empire vs. Republic."

Originally posted by fischsemmel

I'm not sure why I'm bothering to post this far back in a thread... odds are no one is going to be reading way back here anyways. But oh well.

 

 

It seems like a lot of you have the Sith code read incorrectly. To me it seems to work a lot like objectivism (Ayn Rand ring a bell?). Sure, a person following the Sith code is selfish. But that doesn't mean he is going to betray anyone and everyone who he gets close to. He would only do that if it were in his best interests to do so... the very definition of selfishness. And how many people who have ever been born, or who ever will be born, can stand against the rest of the universe all by themselves? None, of course. A non-idiot Sith would realize this.

 

Also, doesn't it seem like Luke, in Episode 6, basically follows that Sith code mentioned by the OP to the freaking letter? I mean, he ignored Yoda and Obi-Wan and went off to save his friends because of his passion for them. That passion fueled him, made him strong... helped him to defeat Vader when he had been unable to defeat Vader in the past (when he wasn't so passionate!). In his victory, he realized he was free... free even from the code that led him to this point (the Sith code)... and so did not succumb to his rage to kill Vader.

Oddly, at this point he proclaimed himself as a Jedi, and the Emperor (who would know a Jedi by looking at him, if anyone would) seems to agree that Luke is a Jedi... even though Luke acted on emotion, was ignorant of the consequences of his actions, was passionate, and was chaotic (unpredictable?)... exactly what the Jedi code says he cannot be.

This is very true. Luke seems to be following and later teaching a code that is both that of the Jedi and the Sith. Sort of picking and chosing the best of each. I mean come on, Luke even gets married later.

The Sith code is not inherently evil, but the Dark Side is. Using a "code" like these only makes you evil if you use it to do things which are morally suspect or morally wrong. The Dark Side, supposedly, is the definition of evil--using it, though, does not imply that you are using it to do evil, but it is gernerally well known that if one taps into it too often, it will consume them and turn them into an agent of evil--someone who always does what is mroally wrong.

Too bad you can't be a non-standard Force user who follows neither the Sith nor the Jedi's teachings.

Thanks for the response, AmazingAvery.

Your post was intelligently written, and I read it all. I think I'll probably take a peek and see how it's going for myself.

Really?

That's no good...  I really want this game to get better--it has so much potential.

I just need something *fun*. Darkfall was supposed to be that... but it was just... off key.

Thank you!

I need to rinse the bad taste out of mouth left behind by Darkfall....