A major problem right now is the way the quests are scaling. It doesn't really matter if it is a solo story quest or a group event, the quests range from medium hard to just stupid hard where you die over and over. Another major issue, let's say for example we have a quest that is level 10. Well we get a bunch of people who are nowhere near level 10 and usually around the 3-7 range. These people obviously can not contribute but they make the quest much harder for the people near 10.

I made a charr character and right outside in the northern area of the starting area you have to kill a shaman. Well the shaman was level 6-8 or so but everyone there was level 2. It probably took about 30+ minutes for people to actually kill it. Same thing for the ghost vault in the second area with 4 bosses.

I don't really see how this one little beta weekend is going to fix this issue as they would need to go through many quests to adjust the scaling.

I strongly disagree with what you said.

There are many reasons why Darkfall is failing and that is because there really is not much to do, unless you grind months (literally) to prepare yourself for PvP.

I honestly would love to a see take on merging "sandbox" with a "themepark" style game.

Give us some real open world dungeons, with scripted bosses similar to Rift, WoW, EQ2, SWTOR, etc.

Give people roles, rather than just what's the hot pvp spec of the month, or maxed 100 in every single skill. Believe it or not, people actually like being able to define themselves as the "healer" or the "tank" or even the "blacksmith" (ultima online).

Give us the open world pvp, full loot game. Make items not matter as much and easier to get.

Give us experience and leveling, but points that are spent in skills. IE: Get 10 skill points per level, cap level at 70. Want to be a swordsman? Spend your points in it. Cap the amount of points you can get based on your max level, so you can not be 100 swordsman at level 10. Honestly, WoW did and Rift does it right. Imagine if you got 10 "talent points" per level and there was a skill system similar to Skyrim. A player could literally put their points in any tree. It would easily expand on what is currently offered in WoW/Rift where you're limited to 3 predefined trees in your spec, and what is offered in UO/MO/DF where a point just means you do it slightly better. Why not have a Skyrim style? You put 5 points in swords, and it increase the damage you do obviously, but you could choose what the 5 points do. Maybe... you could put 5 points in a bleed % chance, or a skill such as "Sword Strike".

Give us factions within the game, rather than "walls" when you create your character. This whole two faction crap, needs to go. If players want to join a faction, join a guild and that guild will pledge allegiance to a faction/city/monarch/whateverRP, otherwise let people interract without a wall between two sides.

Give us politics and drama. RP is not sitting in Goldshire or Silvermoon using "olde english". Real RP is actually taking your character, creating rivalries, wars, friends and adventures.

Give houses and social hubs, outside of major cities. Sure we'll always have the Sanctum, Brit or Orgrimmar, yet players want to be able to interact outside of these places. Let players own parts of the world. Is there a good spot with gold ore veins? Maybe the "sandbox" blacksmith will setup a house there. Is there a high level dungeon (think BRD in WoW) with lots of scripted monsters? Maybe the "themepark" healer will setup a house there for access.

Merge the genres. Give the "themepark" people something, give the FFA people something. But who cares. Developers won't take a chance until the market is saturated with so many WoW clones or "themepark" games that they simply can't make money anymore with the same old shit.

Originally posted by Celcius

Asian themed games have never done well in the west really. FF11 may be the only exception to this rule, but honestly I think most of the people who played that game were in the east anyways. This is why I suspect it will not do well here and the same goes for Tera. 

Whether you want to believe it or not, MapleStory is huge in the "west". The game has grown tremendously over the past 7 years.

Broken record / dead horse incoming:

- Skill cap

- Free to play (smaller skill cap, can't own house, etc, etc)

I would love to come back

Originally posted by Thillian

Originally posted by Azorith

Originally posted by taus01

The game is fun for 1 month and in my opinion worth the box price. It does get stale and boring fast though. There is not much to do and the further you progress the more obvious it becomes you are grinding the same 4 missions over and over.

They did not even bother to make the areas look different for Imperial/Jedi. One example is QUESH. The areas are exact duplicates up to the litter and mob placement!

So even if i would switch factions i would be doing the SAME EXACT missions in the SAME EXACT buildings/mines etc.

 

Side quests may be the same, but you'd be doing the same exact quests in other mmos if you leveled alts... The main quest storylines are all different. Some more pleasing than others, but I have managed to level to 50 with nothing but main quests, heroic quests, flashpoints, warzones, and space missions. I am enjoying myself and plan to do it again with a republic character.

The Developers have also already stated that their entire swtor staff has stayed on the team to continue developement. More and bigger raids, a secret change to space missions (maybe flight control? they won't say until its for sure), guild ships (guild halls). Lots are in the works.

Developers always say anything, why are you even considering that? They said they have the most original, innovative, awesome, super-cool, fabulous, intergalactic PvP, which in reality means that they have made 3 instanced battlegrounds and one World PvP area with poor objectives, which noone really plays.

I have yet to hear a single developer who would say "Guys, we're moving our development team on to a new project, but we would still like to have your money, so if you don't mind, please stay subscribed".

Yup and the biggest thing is..... none of that stuff is here now. People are playing now and expect new things in a new game. Nobody wants to play the same old junk from World of Warcraft 2005. I mean look at Warhammer. It had the same basic quest system and battlegrounds, but it also introduced PQs and RVR into the mix so you're not doing the same "click 3 terminals, kill 30 droids" quest over and over. Plus WoW War AOC etc all had a variety of monsters. SWTOR... has ... droids and republic troops. Big deal.

Originally posted by Thillian

Originally posted by Pelaaja

Originally posted by Thillian

Originally posted by skamper

Originally posted by taus01

The game is fun for 1 month and in my opinion worth the box price. It does get stale and boring fast though. There is not much to do and the further you progress the more obvious it becomes you are grinding the same 4 missions over and over.

They did not even bother to make the areas look different for Imperial/Jedi. One example is QUESH. The areas are exact duplicates up to the litter and mob placement!

So even if i would switch factions i would be doing the SAME EXACT missions in the SAME EXACT buildings/mines etc.

Yup exactly why I quit at level 34. After doing the same quest click 3 terminals + kill 30 droids, I got tired of it. There's no variety to the quests. There's no variety to the monsters. Kill droids, click terminals. Oh well there are a few republic soldiers you kill, but it's still kill 30, click 3... kill 30, click 3. You know if the space missions were actually tied into questing, and they had story behind them it would be amazing. Also, why the hell is there no co-op or pvp space?

 

Hopefully 2012 and beyond will be the era of developers trying new things. We have Planetside 2, Firefall, Guild Wars 2, ArcheAge, Mists of Pandaria and more. All with new aspects from genre to questing to exploration to development.

And Secret World! Which seems like the most innovative AAA title in ages.

Don't go to Secret World. Just because it's FunCom you really need to wait at least 3Mo after launch before getting there if ever. Haven't people learned anything from AO and AoC?

Funcom is not only AoC and AO. If you make graphically cutting-edge games with innovative systems, things might go wrong at the release. At least they try to be innovative. If you want the same shit in 5 year old graphics and 10 year old server technology,  just because it's polished - go and play SWTOR.

Whoa buddy. Watch out you will get the canned response - "The game just came out, give it time". That's what they said with War, Aion, AOC, Rift, etc. But somehow it is different this time around. Why? Because they VOICE ACTED EVERYTHING. Ya. But the gameplay, Star Wows 2005.

Originally posted by taus01

The game is fun for 1 month and in my opinion worth the box price. It does get stale and boring fast though. There is not much to do and the further you progress the more obvious it becomes you are grinding the same 4 missions over and over.

They did not even bother to make the areas look different for Imperial/Jedi. One example is QUESH. The areas are exact duplicates up to the litter and mob placement!

So even if i would switch factions i would be doing the SAME EXACT missions in the SAME EXACT buildings/mines etc.

Yup exactly why I quit at level 34. After doing the same quest click 3 terminals + kill 30 droids, I got tired of it. There's no variety to the quests. There's no variety to the monsters. Kill droids, click terminals. Oh well there are a few republic soldiers you kill, but it's still kill 30, click 3... kill 30, click 3. You know if the space missions were actually tied into questing, and they had story behind them it would be amazing. Also, why the hell is there no co-op or pvp space?

Hopefully 2012 and beyond will be the era of developers trying new things. We have Planetside 2, Firefall, Guild Wars 2, ArcheAge, Mists of Pandaria and more. All with new aspects from genre to questing to exploration to development.

Originally posted by erictlewis

Originally posted by MMObro

prety good game, but I already unsubbed 

The first subscriptions are not charged until 1/20.   So saying you unsubbed rofl.   You did not have to enter you cc info, all you had to do to get you 30 free days was to enter your code.  Calling you out.

 

You sign up with payment information. So yes, you do have to unsub.

I already did myself

Every single quest is click the same generator, box or terminal and kill 30 npcs. Every single one. The "bonus" missions, are just a misnomer for a kill x quest. It's the same thing, as it's required. Bonus != Optional. A real bonus mission would be something like clicking the generators in a set amount of time, and get bonus experience.

Compaions are nice, but kind of takes away the whole fun part when everyone else has the exact same companions. There's a lot of bugs, like Mako's toggle auto abilities get reset when you mount. Ths makes her useless because she just casts a crowd control entire fight, and won't heal you. I don't really understand why we could not customize our companions. Why is there no talent tree for them? Why can't we change their names? etc

Crafting is dull and boring. Whatever happened to meaninful crafting like eve, swg and vanguard? All you do is send your companions on "missions" and they return stuff back for you.

2011 (release) and with DirectX 11 out for years now, it surprises me they did not even take the basic features of it. There's no reason this game should not have anti-aliasing built in to the client, and not forced. Texture quality is reduced on players and monsters when exploring the world, but enhanced when you talk to people. Strange.

Combat is unrepsonsive. There is a massive post, with BIoWare stating it is a known issue, about delay on certain spells. Don't even try to deny this, when bioware themselves acknowledge the bug. A lot of the spells are useless.

The only quest dialogue worth mentioning is class quest. Everything else is 2 windows of dialogue and move on to clicking generators and killing 30 guys. To be fair here, there are a FEW meaningful small quests.

Space missions are basically on-rails (Starfox) point and click. There's probably about 10-15 of them, and they become boring daily quests after doing them a few times. There's no resaon to really even do space, except to relieve yourself from the click 5 generators, kill 30 droids quest you're on. I honestly have no idea why they would not have put space pvp in. This would have been awesome. Or hell even co-op space missions?! This is an MMORPG!

Lack of UI mods, macros and customizable interface really sets this game back to 2005. If you want a competitive hardcore raiding scene, you need to compete directly with the market contender. Otheriwse we're going back. I mean seriously, why was there no option to scale the UI or move things around ON LAUNCH.

Honestly I doubt this game will be anything specatular. It has less features overall than Warhammer had at launch, and the same balance issues as it. There are so many things this game could have done, but didn't. There are no mmo factors to the space missions. End game is basically outdated 4 mans, raiding and battlegrounds. The lack of LFD while leveling makes running dungeons painful.

Take off your honeymoon glasses people. If they wanted to copy World of Warcraft, they did it. Too bad they copied the 2005 version of it. Nobody wants to wait 7 years for a game to be where the others are now. Nobody would have bought this game if it did not have Star Wars on the front of it.

Verdict - 4 / 10

Originally posted by onthestick

Originally posted by skamper

All of these people praising the game need to wait until their second month. Right now most people are in the "honeymoon phase" where everything seems perfect and glamourous. Wait until you're 50, and a month in and then tell us how you feel. Also, the amount of people subbing for their second month of play will dictate how well this game is doing. Box sells really do not mean a game is good or bad, just that it was marketed wel but people coming back clearly shows it has lasting appeal.

 

 

For everyone wondering end-game is basically this:

Heroic 4 mans (dungeons)

Warzones (battlegrounds)

Operations (raids)

Operation on three diffuclty settings and there is also FFA pvp zone and planet illum for end game PVP. For those who are into crafting there is so much to do beyond lvl 50. As you will spend lots of time and good amount of money to discover all the new schematics and mods.

Right operations have a "casual mode" which they call normal, and then two more "hardcore" settings called heroic and nightmare. There are 6 bosses in one raid and a single boss encounter in another. You will most likely be looking at progressing through three tiers of difficulty similar to WoW's LFR -> Normal -> Heroic. Note this is NOT a wow vs swtor comment, just a general comparision.

FFA pvp can hardly be called end game content. Generally in mmorpgs end-game content revolves around "What can I do in this game to keep progressing, once I reach max level?". Unless the FFA pvp awards some sort of armor, stat, companion, etc it is hardly end-game content. Sure it is fun and exciting but does not have lasting appeal like raiding or instanced pvp. Obviously people who do pvp and dungeons/raids will have an advantage over a person who just hit 50 and sits in the FFA pvp area all day.

Judging from the items listed on torhead.com, there's only a moderate amount of crafted items at level 50 to use. Absolutely you could use the level 50 crafted items to start dungeons and entry level raid, but it won't get you much further than that.

Note: I am not saying this is a bad game. I just want the people on the fence to understand exactly what the game is and what it offers, before they spend money.

All of these people praising the game need to wait until their second month. Right now most people are in the "honeymoon phase" where everything seems perfect and glamourous. Wait until you're 50, and a month in and then tell us how you feel. Also, the amount of people subbing for their second month of play will dictate how well this game is doing. Box sells really do not mean a game is good or bad, just that it was marketed well. But, people coming back clearly shows it has lasting appeal.

For everyone wondering end-game is basically this:

Heroic 4 mans (dungeons)

Warzones (battlegrounds)

Operations (raids)

So please, if you're on the fence about this, wait until the next month.

OP, I would seriously look away from that computer if you plan on playing anthing above the lowest settings. I build systems as a hobby for friends/relatives/myself. If you want any professional advice contact me in a private message and I will assess your needs and cost for free.

Based on your note about old republic and battlefield 3, you're going to want something with power.  And you're in luck because intel just released a new line of cpu for the mid/high-range that are superb.

March April May?

Sorry I haven't been following this game and was just wondering if they were still aiming for a 2011 release?

Simple question.. simple answer please :)

Looks fun, but I'll probably never get to own a house.

Unless of course they change some things.

First off we have the nice UO style elements:

• Open world
• PVP anywhere
• Full loot
• Skill based

Also, what is up with FPS? I have two ATI 5870s and they sit at 30% but my fps drops 40-60? What is causing it????????? ahhhhhhhh

Long loading screen

Missing ground texture

Anyway to fix these?

awesome thanks, is it still alive?

It was really small but it was very similar to ultima online. Top down view, etc.

You could actually own your part of the world and build on it.

Any information is greatly appreciated.

First off, I play this game on a rather large display, so is there anyway to make the UI text larger?

Second, I really need some guidance to get into this. I did the tutorial, but I'm just getting confused where to go next.