Originally posted by Azrile

Originally posted by mrnutz1065

Originally posted by Kurush

Originally posted by mrnutz1065 

Good fun but pretty dissapointed at this "Mass oRvR" people were proclaiming.

 Look at the big picture, man. Massive, crushing disparities for A:H.

Without tenacity, there would be no Wintergrasp on those servers.  It would one faction constantly owning the other.

Ever tried beating a feral druid with 100k health that hits for 10,000? In a 1v1 encounter you are going to get facerolled by the person with the tenacity buff. 1v1 should it not be the person with the better skills that wins?

In order for that feral druid to have 100,000 health, that means your team probably outnumbers his team by 2:1 or 3:1       So yes, you deserver to lose if you try to fight him 1v1.   Your faction has twice or three times as many players as his does.   Wintergrasp is *gasp* large scale combat.. if you want to run around and find 1v1 fights, try duels outside stormwind.

Hey wait... haven't we heard this all before?

WAR doesn't deserve more time. If the game wasn't ready, they shouldn't have launched.

Personally, if I have to schedule my day around the game, then I can't enjoy it and it's not worth my time.

Raiding isn't fading because the raids are getting smaller, it's fading because the market is now dominated by people who can't be bothered to turn a game into their second job. People are busier now than they have ever been, and it only gets worse.

We don't need games that have structured, tiered content that can only be seen if you kept up with the other 71 people in your group. We need games that have fun, accessible content on-the-fly, that supports grouping with who we want, when we want, and however we want. We need games that let the beginners group with the played-since-beta folks, and still function normally.

We need games that are less work and more play.

In no particular order:

Sid Meier
Raph Koster
Will Wright

These are just the ones I could think of off the top of my head. I know they are not really MMO developers but they are certainly some of the cream of the crop in the gaming industry. It's only a matter of time before they decide to start making MMOs (or some variant) and then we'll see what happens.

It could be argued that Will Wright has already fallen with Spore, since pretty much everyone was disappointed with that game.

Originally posted by Pezhead

I am curious to know, how is the melee system going to work?

It's FPS style, similar to DDO or Oblivion.

Originally posted by singsofdeath

I wouldn't categorize it as Fantasy....but not as Sci-Fi either.

 

If anything, Star Wars was always a Fairy-Tale. So I guess Fantasy is actually closer than Sci-Fi.

I agree. Certainly it doesn't fall under the stereotypical Fantasy archetypes, but it's clearly not traditional sci-fi either. I imagine the fact that the game revolves around dudes with special powers who wave glowing swords at each other is what landed it squarely in this category to begin with.

Originally posted by jusomdude

You know what sucks is that when hackers get a players username, that account could possibly be hacked without the account owner even having a virus on their computer. Hackers could just brute-forece the password and I'm not sure account names can be changed.

Brute-force is pretty obvious when the company's server is flooded by repeated requests from the same IP. Most companies have some sort of automatic blocking policy in place if they receive a huge number of failed login requests from the same IP within a short period.

Another funny story I just remembered:

When the WoW battleground were first added, a friend of mine at the time was playing a Shadow Priest. He made it his hobby to enter WSG, and go stand near the other team's exit portal, and when people would run by, he would Mind Control them and walk them into the portal, thus kicking them from the battleground.

He would also flag himself and stand in Blackrock Mountain, and as the raiders would run by, inevitably at least one would stop to fight (assuming that he was a holy priest) and he would Mind Control them and throw them over the ledge and into the lava.

Originally posted by EATtheDEAD 

hehehe. anyone know of any funny stories like that from any of these next-gen games?

I do remember a similar story of a guy scamming another guy out of the mats to create an Arcanite Reaper in the early versions of WoW, then used the money to buy an epic mount, and rode around Ironforge spamming and bragging about what he'd done.

If I remember correctly, the devs took the mount away from the guy but never did return the mats to the victim.

One of the advantages of next-gen games though is that they can track everything all the time and review the logs. Most of the older games didn't think that far ahead and so were dependent on very small clips or even just screenshots to verify a player's claims.

Originally posted by slask777

The casuals rule this game now it seems. It started with welfare epics, continued with 10-man raids and for the future, who knows. In the end you most probably can 5-man all the stuff in the game, or even solo it

Welfare epics were removed from the game, and while 10-mans do exist for each dungeon, the gear is sub-par to what you would find in the 25-man raids. Casuals are being rewarded casually for their style of play, but to say they "rule the game" or are even remotely competitive is a total joke.

Back in the original version of Runescape, scamming was a very real and very serious problem. I remember one extremely clever scam that I watched a couple times.

Two people would get together and choose an item that was used in a quest very few people had done (and was therefore unheard of to about 99% of the population). They would take this item, and stand in the town square (where items were often bought and sold) and shout "selling _____ 1 million" which of course was quite a lot of money. Then the second person would shout "buying _____ 10 million" and sit back and watch.

Right on cue, somebody would see this and think "oh an easy 9 million, I'll buy it from the first guy and sell it to the second." Well of course, right after buying this near-worthless item for 1 million gold, both players would vanish and leave the unfortunate victim high and dry.

People's cleverness when it comes to cons and scams never ceases to amaze me.

Originally posted by SupderD 

I will now block ANYONE who disagrees with me, but clearly, they are wrong, and I am right.

As opposed to running around, posting in every Darkfall thread and putting words in people's mouths, claiming they said things they never said and then attacking them for it?

Originally posted by ghoul31

Originally posted by Aethios

 

How mature is it to question someone's maturity for questioning someone's maturity?

 

 

How mature is is to questions' someone's maturity for questioning someone's maturity for questioning someone's maturity?

 

Is this the part where I say "your mom" and then the thread gets locked?

Originally posted by Arcken

Originally posted by Aethios

Originally posted by Arcken 

So which of these things have they actually delivered on since september 30th?

 

Predictable, as usual. This thread is designed for the trolls so they can come here and say "see we told you so" and continue pretending the whole thing is a big conspiracy.

Grow up, guys. Seriously.

 

How about you grow up, name calling is obviously a sign of maturity. Your ridiculousness aside,

I was actually asking a legitimate question, then someone pointed out that it was 2003. Im still chuckling.

How mature is it to question someone's maturity for questioning someone's maturity?

You guys are hopeless.

Originally posted by Arcken 

So which of these things have they actually delivered on since september 30th?

Predictable, as usual. This thread is designed for the trolls so they can come here and say "see we told you so" and continue pretending the whole thing is a big conspiracy.

Grow up, guys. Seriously.

Originally posted by polypterus

I can build a earth sized planet and you will *NEVER* see it all. How easy is it to see every point on the Earth in your life time. Even if you could I could build another one in about 15 seconds and you would have to start all over. The trick is to make the planet interesting everywhere you go. That’s the real challenge.

That's exactly what I mean. I won't literally have seen it all, but there will be zero motivation to continue exploring since the next million kilometers is just like the last hundred. I've seen all there is worth seeing.

Originally posted by Zayne3145

Originally posted by Polarization

2 weeks left to start and finish Open beta and there is still no evidence whatsoever that closed beta has actually even started yet, not a good sign.

 

Hadn't even thought of that.

This whole thing is becoming farcical. Fast.

I'm going to be interested to read the DF Cultist's responses if January '09 rolls around and there's no release or even OB. Although they're already becoming scarce the last few days.

Perhaps they are becoming scarce because they are tired of fighting an uphill battle against people who are obviously suffering under some sort of paranoid belief that these people are out to get your wallet, when they have said time and time again that they want us to play the game for free. It's not hard to admit that the game may not release, and even if it does, may not be worth playing (in fact, I'm quite worried about the latter myself) but people still feel the need to take it one step further and cry "CONSPIRACY" and put on their tin-foil hats.

Part of the problem is the moderators here. People start a thread like this, somebody says something stupid and a fight breaks out. The point is finally proven, the trolls disappear, and then a few hours later or the next day an identical thread is started and the cycle repeats itself, and its always the same half dozen or so people every time. If the real trolls were being banned (on both sides) then we wouldn't have this problem.

Originally posted by farudim

tell me, do you think the asians are paying 15$ a month for this?

At the rate they play, I imagine they are paying quite a bit more.

Half the fun of exploration is not just seeing the terrain, but also finding out the reason that it exists. If you randomly generate terrain and randomly drop stuff on it, that sort of defeats the point.

Even in systems like Diablo 2 where they had a combination of both, it didn't really work because most players spent a lot of time fighting mobs they didn't care about while trying to find the door to the next zone because they didn't (and couldn't) know where it was. It's just frustrating and wastes time.

The idea behind random systems is that, ideally, every game will be different than the last. The problem with this is that because there's no purpose behind the randomly generated terrain (other than to give you someplace to play) it's not interesting in and of itself, and eventually you will have seen it all.

Originally posted by Polyjean

Yep, Blizzard did run out of money, so they had to charge a little for WotlK.

LOL, I sincerely hope this was a joke.