Originally posted by willvas

Originally posted by socrates656

Originally posted by willvas

 

and by the way... learn how to play if you dont know how to use HIDE... i find it perfect and can use it quite well on my assassin.  I see no problems with it as many others do.

 I have 1 lvl 80 Stygian Assassin on Tyranny. Curretnly LvL 4 PvP Rank. I also have 3 other characters which are all 80 and very well geared. I have been playing this game since 2008. I know this game inside and out. Our guild is #2 on the server on tyranny. So Please don't tell me that I need to learn how to play, because frankly you would most likely wouldn't even be able to last 5 minutes in one of our guild mini's.

Form an opinion when you have played the game a little longer. Then maybe someone who actually knows anything about the game mechanics will listen to you. Because apperantly you havin't even hit high enough rank yet for tier 2 gear, and that just tells me right there you are ignorant to how pvp works in AoC. PvP is completly differn't at lvl 80 then it is at lvl 20 after leaving tortage.... *sarcasm

Originally posted by willvas

Originally posted by socrates656

Originally posted by willvas

the FFA PvP is not bad.. .there are ways to survive.  and to the person who said about stealth in AOC... its NOT STEALTH...

 

its HIDE... ever play the game HIde-n-Seek?  yes we all have.. and we all arent thieves and rogues... its possible for some to be really good at hiding and some to be really bad at it.  that is what Age of Conan is depicting when you hit the HIDE button. 

stop using the CAREBEAR phrase.. .make the person using it seem stupid....and about 10 years old.  nothing carebearish about anything in any MMO on any server so stop using it.

I have one major problem with the PVP in this game....

its the PVP LEVELS... 

 

there are 5 of them....

here is the problem... the difference between pvp level 1 and pvp level 5 is too drastic.  a PVP level 1 guardian couldnt even damage a PVP level 5 guy.  This is why i quit last time.  It was hard to pvp with all the PVP level 5 guys running around.  I couldnt even damage them. 

on top of that i definitely knew the difference when you got the high levle city buff and when you didnt.  It does make a huge difference of the amount of damage you can take.

 

those i find more disturbing then the actual pvp system.

 Hey moron.

Hide and stealth are the same thing in Age of Conan, and no every class should not be able to use "HIDE/Stealth" in any MMO. Theres nothing wrong with the pvp levels or the pvp itself in Age of Conan. I have a lvl 80 Assassin on Tyranny and up to lvl 4 pvp right now. PvP is not hard on this game. The problem is that every class has Stealth abilitys like "HIDE" Obviously in your case you quite because you ragedquite. Of course your not going to be able to kill a lvl 5 pvp rating guy, because he's put in the time and effort to pvp on his character more then you have. Idiot.

LOL im the moron.. last i checked it was called HIDE.. not stealth... and it was explained since launch that its NOT stealth.. its hide.. which is the reason why everybody has.  maybe it is your who is confused.

and you are wrong on the pvp part... i didnt say kill did I.. i said do damage.. because the gear they get at pvp level 5 raises them so high above a PVP level 1 guy.. and who said i quit in rage?  I never said i did.  I found it pointless for a huge gap like that.  this will chase away a LOT of guys who are new to the game. 

and i see your mature level is pretty high isnt it...  using colorful commentation.  needing to call me moron and idiot.  Well in anycase i see where you mentality level is.. i so need to sink to your age. 

and by the way... learn how to play if you dont know how to use HIDE... i find it perfect and can use it quite well on my assassin.  I see no problems with it as many others do.

 It amazes me that your 38 years old. You sound like you are 10. Grow up

Originally posted by Lateris

Wiccannas' global chat was out of control last night on a weekday. I came back a few months ago and  the population has increased since I came back. 

 

 You talk on Global Chat? oh god....

I turn that thing off. All the adults who act like 4 year olds use that thing.

Originally posted by Wharg0ul

Wiccana's freakin' packed.

I'd say the population is healthy enough to be able to get group stuff done at any level, right now.

Question is, will it be like this six months from now??

let's hope.

 Whargoul is right as usual.

theres is only 4 servers now in AoC 2pve, and 2 pvp, but the servers are pretty packed. However, I don't know if they will continue to be that way forever.

Originally posted by Jakeadunk

Wow you people amaze me all I was wanting is a server in Aoc where it would be FFA, but all I get is flamed for being a greifer. That is fine I play WoW and on their pvp servers you can attack low levels if you want. I was hoping that Aoc would have something similiar but they don't. I wonder in AoC if a level 40 can attack a level 50, because I was level 60 necro and I beat a level 67 conqurer not sure with your rule system now if you can do it. Sometimes a low level can fight back if the game allows for it. But if Funcom doesnt want to make a server to accomodate people who would prefer the FFA rules then fine I won't play AoC, and I'm sure you people would be happy that I won't be. Saying your system isn't carebear is laughable because you know your safe when your are leveling, and won't be bothered. I might play your system if the criminal can't be looted if killed by a non criminal player. Just for the record one more time ALL I WANT IS A FFA server in AoC. No need to attack me because im asking for some variety in a MMO game. Don't like FFA fine don't play on that server.

 Hello there my friend. Don't listen to these people. Most of the people who frequent this website are just angry nerds sitting behind a computer screen arguing over video games like 3 year olds.

Being someone who loves pvp MMO's.... heres my opinion on pvp in AoC and you may disagree with me as alot of the fanbois who play this game disagree with me. But as far as I see it the pvp is not that great as it once was. When the game was first launched the pvp was much better. I have a 80 assassin on tyranny, but I don't play it anymore because I think when funcom gave every class my assassin ability hide to every class that is when I rolled on a pve server instead.

So even if you did play pvp in aoc you probably wouldnt last long and get bored or eather frustrated with it.

Originally posted by Cynthe

Originally posted by Pilnkplonk

Originally posted by DrunkWolf

Here is another way you can deal with gankers.

Most of the time guys out ganking choke points and such are bored because they have high level characters, and they make these reroll twinks to just kill others.

when your ganked send them a message, ask them if you can be left alone to finish your quest then you will duel one of them. or say hey nice damage on that kill, do you mind telling me where this or that is for my quest?

most of the time people will help you if you message them and are nice about it, i know for myself if i gank sombody and they send me a tell saying somthing like...come on man im just trying to finish this quest or somthing, alot of times i will help them out. i got my pvp in there is no need for me to kill this guy over and over, sure lets get your quest done.

in the end it is a pvp game and your going to die alot, but if you keep level headed and actually talk to people, most of the time they will be cool with you.  if you send them hate messages after being ganked....well.....your going to get ganked alot more after that.

Were you a bully in school? Did you use to hit kids smaller than you before they could "prove to you" that they were worth leaving alone.. or being treated like a worthwhile being?

Just asking, I'm curious.

No really, Funcom should send you a bill, lol.

As far as I see, DrunkWolf is just playing the game as intended.  I honestly don't see anything wrong with his suggestion. I played a bit on Cimmeria and was fine with this behavior, in fact I think I actually talked and interacted more on that server then on Wiccana just because of the PvP... 

That said I don't enjoy constant PVP so I prefer Wicc, that doesn't mean I won't ever log on Cimm once in a while to live life dangerously.. As people mentioned it helps if you use the tools Funcom gave you... Like hide, and search, and just play smart. ;P

 haha omg your 30 years old too and live in B.C?

Age of Conan is a great PVE game. I love PvP games though more, and I love to pvp. I've always been a fan of free gankfest. Shadowbane was my favorite for that.

However, I think people are missing the point here of AoC's PvP system. It's not the fact of being ganked thats the problem at all.

I have been playing Age of Conan since 2008. So far I got a lvl 80 assassin, and 80 Bearshaman. Firstly being someone who dosnt mind being ganked over and over and loves pvp... I have to be honest here, and say this is the only game I've ever pvp'd in that i really dont like at all. Why you ask? Because every class in this game has the ability to use rogue abilitys like stealth/hide...(stealth, hide whatever you want to call it.. it's the same thing) to me this brings a huge inbalance to the pvp part of the game big time.

In no MMO, or RPG have ever played. Was a mage able to use rogue abilitys. That in itself is just absolutly moronicly retarded. Thats the purpose of why theres rogues in these games, because it's their halmark skill, and trait.

I know that the other classes can't stealth as good as the other classes because it drains stamina, but that stamina drain hardly even makes any differance whatsoever, and if your playing an assassin in pvp minigames. Good luck trying to stealth, because your continually stuck in combat and can't stealth. Good luck with that.

If they allowed only the rogue classes like the barbarian, assassin, and ranger to stealth as were they were intended to be the only stealthers in the game in the first place. I would love the pvp part of AoC, but as far as it is now its like playing Everquest 2 with every class having a hide ability.

pffft that is nothing. You guys here talk as if this is somthing never done before. I've had 10x worse happin to me. Imagine being billed 2 x over with World of Nocraft Expansions on your account that you never purchased in the first place. Then blizzard telling you that theres nothing they can do. I ended up having to call my credit card company and have it taken off manually because blizzard figured that someone out there would purchase 2 burning crusades, and 2 wrath of the noobkings on the same account.

I also had a similar problem with other things, because in real life Im a graphic and web designer. I have my own web server so I can sell my artwork, t-shirts, web templates, and posters online. Well one day they descided to charge me for a whole 3 years worth (475$) when I only signed up for a 3 month reaccuring billing rate.

Best thing you can do is not use your credit card online for anything. Because once they have your credit card on file they can do whatever they want. There is so much scamming and misinformation that is being passed on the web that some of the companys end up trying to nail you in the end by charging you for things you never even signed up for in the first place.

You'd be surprised how unsecured credit cards are over the internet now.

Game companys love money, and if they can jipp a few customers and get away with billing them more then what they actually paid for. It works in benifit to them. Of course that is just my general observation so I could be ignorant on the subject, but in my experiance in dealing with this kind of thing. The game companys really arn't very helpful at all and seem to want this to happin so they can get a few extra bucks off people

Originally posted by Gaddorm

Originally posted by Hardanger

So, what I'm hearing is that really there aren't any good reasons to dislike it relative to most games - people are just disappointed in it compared to DAoC?  Hmm...  Whatever.  I tried DAoC, it was just plain archaic.  I guess I kinda wish I coud've played it before it got so old. 

You're obviously not reading the replies then.

 

Mythic promised things, never delivered, unbalanced classes/factions =  why they went from 800K boxes sold to ~100K subs shortly after launch.

http://users.telenet.be/mmodata/Charts/150k-1m.png

Gaddorm
 I find it quite amusing you base your opinions off a chart which you don't even know is true or not considering there are 100's of charts showing differnt stastics over the internet in which you can search for on google pretty easyly, goes to show your complete and utter ignorance. The reason why i say this is, because 2 months ago there was a chart showing that there were over 350,000 subs for Age of Conan. Look, lets be honest here... no one knows the exact number crunch on subsciptions for any MMO. People can only assume.

Hardanger
Hi Hardanger, I'm not a fanboi eather. I don't play Warhammer Online anymore., But honestly, Don't listen to all these complainers. If you want to go to a place and listen too all the bitching and complaining about MMO's this is the site too do it! There are plenty oi MMO's out there which are hell of alot worse then Warhammer Online.

Wahammer Online is an ok MMO. It's nothing to shake a stick at though in terms of anything new. But it's also alot better then alot of the other MMO's out there as well. I wouldn't really listen to these guys on mmorpg most of them just come here to complain and argue about the games they don't like, and continually whine and complain about a game they didn't expect it to be. If you want to hear negative feedback from any game weather how good or bad it is MMORPG.com is the perfect place to find the complainers and whiners. I was actually told on here by many mmorpg users that Darkfall online was the devil of all MMO's and was terrible, and right now I have been playing it for a couple of months and am finding it quite fun to play. So don't take what you hear on here to heart so much. Everyone has their own opinions on what games are good and what games are bad. Just because someone says the game is bad dosn't mean it's bad. It just means it's not their type of game or playstyle they like.

Y'know don't be surprised when the new Starwars MMO comes out. I'm shure the same thing will happin when Starwars the Old Republic comes out because there are people who assume the games going to be the second comming of jesus.

Anyways, I am glad you are enjoying the game. It's not a bad MMO for what it's worth. It has alot of lore attached to it.  And the pvp aspect is quite fun as well.

Been playing MMOS for 11 years... going to probably piss some AoC fanbois off in here...

I played this in beta, and also when it was released, but. I quite the game, because I got utterly bored and pissed off with it because lack of content, and the only thing you could do in it was quest, and pvp. So heres an opinion from a non fanboi for AoC, and please read the whole post here before flaming me.

Ok look.. The expansion is ok it's not anything new or amazing that will make your 7 year old son shit his pants. Just some added new race, area's, quests, dungeons, and factions so we can grind factions now... oh fun! If you have played MMO's for as long as I have you would agree with me that this is just another way for the company to make money and manipulate the simple minded gamers who are happy with MMO's that are almost no differn't then simple single player rpgs. MMOs that have nothing more too do then quest, lvl, and grind for gear over and over again. The one major thing that I don't understand is why people think this game is the second comming of jesus, because it really isnt. It has terrific graphics, and the gameplay is great, but there is nothing really that makes this game special over other MMO's your still doing quests over and over again, and now your grinding faction and playing as much as you can to grind gear. Hmm shure sounds like a game that comes to mind and why I hate WoW? wrath of the lich King? same deal differnt game. Everquest 1, and Starwars Galaxies back in the day were 10x better then both of those games combined.

I  re-subbed 1 month ago and came back to give it another chance. I rolled on a pvp server, because I love pvp. What can I say. I know you guys absolutly love this game and think it's probably the second comming of jesus, but for me I don't see whats so special about this expansion or the game itself. Like when I first played this game. The PvP is absolutly horrible in this game, and I love pvp. Every class in this game has a hide/stealth ability. Which to me is beyond retarded to me (Yes the best stealthers are assassins and the other class's dont stealth as good) BUT STILL that is like giving every class in WoW a stealth ability like a rogue or somthing. That is just so rediculas among other things that are horribly wrong in pvp with this game.

And lastly the thing that no one on here has mentioned and really pisses me off about this game is that after tortage the quests hardly ever have any voice overs for them. It's like funcom didnt even bother to get off their butts to finnish the rest of the game. So your stuck reading these voiceless npcs doing these braindead quests over and over again.

If you like doing the same thing over and over again and grinding faction. You probably will love this game. I also read on here that someone saud because the game had never did that well was because of all the technical issues it had. Not true at all. The reason why this game never has and never will have the numbers it should is because it bring absolutly nothing new to the table in terms of MMO's. It's still just another game were you can qquest and grind for gear.

This game to me is so bad. That I actually found Dragon Age: Orgins more enjoyable. and thats a single player rpg!!!.. at least the npcs are fully voice and the game isnt just some linear bullshit

Sorry if I offended some people in here. I just couldny help myself, Because I don't understand why this game is so much better then it was before. To me it's still the same unfinnished game as it was 2 years ago, and its sad to me that gamers now are happy with Online MMO's that have hardly any substance to them and are linear peices of garbage.

I just canceled my account today. Not because of Population though, but because of the amount of bugs are in the game. There are more bugs in vanguard now then there were 1 year ago. Say what you want, but SOE have just ruined this game

you did a great job on those videos, thanks sum. You are awesome.

Cheers mate

I've been saying this for the last year that Star Trek online wasn't going to be what people thought the game was, but no one listened. I've been playing MMO"s for the last 10 years.. my word of advice to you is don't pre-order MMO's unless you are extreamly shure that it's a game you know your going to love.

For the last 5 years the industry for MMO"s has been in a slump since World of Warcraft. There hasn't been very many good games that have come out. Most of them have just been utter garbage. Why you ask? because most of the gaming companys now a days make MMO's to make money (Not saying that making an MMO for money is a problem, because it isn't the problem) but that They make carbon copy after carbon copy of games over and over again. Most of the MMO's now have ideas taken from other games and put into them. They also rev everyone up with game trailers, and nice little screenshots, and people fall for it everytime. Then once the game is out they play it and find out how terrible the game is. The game companys just take their money and run, then work on somthing else.

Back in the old days MMO's were alot better, because the people who made them were not just in it to make money (Even though money was a big part of it) but they also created MMO's in the spirit of gaming itself, because they themselfs enjoyed gaming as kids, and wanted to bring there idea's to life in an Online MMO. Good examples of this was UO, and EQ, and sadly It's not like that anymore.

That is why I don't Pre-Order MMO's anymore, and I'm glad I don't because I would of wasted hundreds of dollers on such terrible put together games as they put out now-a-days

The game brought out by Cryptic. They don't have a very good track record. Do your research before purchasing an MMO.

I'm 29 almost 30 now. I run a guild in Darkfall, I've been running guilds for along time in many MMO's and I have to say that the +18 thing is really nieve and airheaded. The way we run our guild is not by age but by putting the players on a trial basis. Just because you have the +18 statement on their dosn't mean the guild is mature in anyway. It is also ignorant to think that anyone is really "mature" in Darkfall. I'm 29 years old, and I've seen guys in their early 20's and mid 30's be total morons to their guild mates.

It is also nieve to think that +18 people are going to be mature in your guild. Most adults in Darkfall are not mature, even the nice ones. I think everyone who is a gamer to some degree has to be immature, because then were would the fun be? Even I can act immature at some point. It's a well knowin fact that people in Darkfall are not the mostl friendly, mature gamers you will meet. It's to be expected by any PvP oriented game. So I have no idea what the guilds really mean by the +18 title.. do they mean they want to play with gamers who are not below +18 or are they really saying they want to play with people +18 and over, because they feel they might be able to relate to them more?

I don't know, but I can tell you instead of putting the +18 thing on your welcome recruitment page on your clan website. You should be putting a questionaire instead of how the person acts in the game and observe them. If your really worried about maturity then do it that way, because trust me if you have run guilds as long as I have you come to realize it's not the age.. it's the person. Thats why their is a thing called a trial basis

I don't know but I think people, and human beings, Especially gamers are pretty stupid when trying to define what mature is. I don't think anyone on this site is "mature" so you tell me.

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Originally posted by Wharg0ul

As much as I love Darkfall, I can't in good concience tell anyone to run out and buy the game without trying it. It's simply not for everyone.

There's seriously a 50/50 chance you won't like it.

That said, I wouldn't hold your breath waiting for a trial either. Those who are eager to try the game really need to ask themselves a few questions...

Am I willing to suck for a while, and to be fodder for the more experienced, while I work to become better?

Am I willing to realise that gear means nothing, and that I must be willing to simply shrug off having it taken from me?

Am I willing to accept the fact that death happens, and just pick myself up and continue on?

If you can do these things, you'll likely enjoy the game. If not...don't bother. You'll just /ragequit and end up wasting your money.

 you are complelty right my friend. And btw that sig rocks i love it.

@Sheilina

Yeah I guess maybe players on that side of the fence are a little nicer, but over on the human side or the orks it's not so friendly. The Pking dosn't bother me one bit. It's a part of the game. It's the community that bothers me. Most of them are really socially retarded. The worst ones are the ones are in the new player channels and some guy asks a simple question and he gets spammed by like 6 people swearing at him and calling him names.

I really think this game caters to the mentally ILL and the spastic mongoloid gamers who take the game so seriously it's like life or death to them, and if somthing dosn't go their way they start pounding on their keyboards and start going into convulsions over ventrillo. It's no wonder why people get turned off by the game. It's not the game it's the community. I'm just thankful I found a guild were the people are actually normal and talk to me like an adult and not a 8 year old.

I recently purchased Darkfall and I must say I'm quite Impressed. The game is actually pretty good. The only thing thats bad thing about the game is the community. The community is pretty harsh, especially if your new to the game. Alot of asshats in this game, however there not all bad. I have met some pretty nice people on here as well, but they are all older players.

I find most of the younger ones, or the ones who are in their late 20's who act like little 14 year olds to be quite abnoxious, and socially retarded (Meaning they don't know how to communicate, or socialize with people in the game.), most of them sit there all day on Race or Race Alliance chat with nothing better too do with their time. It's to bad some of these bad people represent the game to the new players and it turns them off. So I can see why not many people play this or have gotten turned off by it in the past.

The game though is really good. It has alot of content in it, and very fun. If you like pvp or liked shadowbane you should check this game out.

Originally posted by krieblood

Originally posted by eman_laerton

No really. I paid, I played and I quit. YOu can look down to my previous posts on this to see the details but I was just thinking over the weekend how little motivation I had to even log in. I think the reason is the poor state of this game: It is laggy in addition to being very very clunky.

The FPV is just crappy and does not allow for realistic interaction with the environment. It's trying to be an FPS and failing because all one does is spam a hit button and run. Yep folks, that's the extent of combat..hit and run...hit and run...spam nukes hit and un....BORING. There is no intricate coordination of spells and mele in the way it's done in WOW.

People say WOW is easy combat compared to this? No ...just no. Darkfall combat requires that one run and spam 1 button. "But dude you have to aim!" So f___ing what? If you like aiming a cursor, get a game that has a ball moving randomly on a screen and click on it: you get points for more hits as it moves faster and faster and faster and in the end, those with the best hand-eye coordination will win.

If this is WOW combat on the other hand, the PVP requires that one understand a complex array of possibilities from many different classes and how one should respond in real time to thoses effects. One must also use multiple resources to coordinate the effect. Sure darkfall has buffs and mele additions but it's not the same. I engage in combat in darkfall and sprint/hit...that's it. One day I'll buff myself before I sprint/hit i guess.

So even if they fix the stat grind I will probably say meh.... and wait for a real game that is actually fun like WOW to replace it.

Thanks!

Ok im not fanboi for Darkfall, Look threw my history i punch DorkFail in the nose on a daily bases.

But your wrong about WoW taking more skill, Tabing auto targeting is in no way Harder then Twitch system.

Now if Darkfall made there combat system a little more like Mortal with FPS melee and Click the attack butten to draw your weapon back and release the button to swing would make it ALOT more challenging.

But your post Fails DarkFall kills WoW anyday Hands down to the compair of Theme park VS Sandbox, Sandbox is way more immersive then a set Themepark ride.

 

Y'know I agree with you on everything you said here. Especially the part about the sandbox part, But i don't think darkfall kills wow in everyway. How can you even compare the 2? You are a complete idiot and know nothing of the gaming industry what-so-ever if you honestly think that. I don't play WoW, and I don't even like it, because it isn't my style of game, but no one can deny Blizzard have done alot with WoW and have come very far. Blizzard has done better then most of the other terrible game developers that have come out in the last 3 years. Y'know, Just because you like Sandbox mmo's dosnt mean that every other mmo that isn't is a SandBox is a terrible game and dosn't require any skill, Just because you don't like it. Honestly take your head out of your ass son, and educate yourself.

Originally posted by Robsolf

Why do people hate on this freaking game so much?  I tried it... not my cup of tea... but geez!  To come into this forum day in and day out dreaming of this game to fail... I just don't get it.

It's one thing to criticize a game, entirely another to beg the MMO gods to smite it.  I'm sad to say I see the latter far more than the former...

 

I agree with you. I don't even play Aion because I found it boring, but I don't hate it, and I don't think its the devil of all mmo's like most of these morons seem to think.

Most of the people on this site are mostly kids who come up with delusional ideas in their head what they think is bad and what is good. In reality it's not so black and white.. it's just what people like to play and what they don't

Originally posted by WhackANewbie

No MMO is, ever, finished. If you want to go by Xfire numbers (which, to me, do not matter) than Aion is doing just fine. it is in the top 5. But yeah...no MMO is finished, ever....Developers need to delay MMOs by a year to add more to it and gamers need to get a life and not max out a toon in 2 weeks....yeah i said that because it is true.

I think your totally missing the point here what the OP was talking about.

Yes no MMO is ever finnished, but it should have enough content in it to keep people going, and interested. Just look at WoW. That game is huge and it's still not finnished, but at least your still doing quests and progressing. ( and please dont even go there. I can't stand WoW.. I hate the game, but at least it has conent) Yes it;s been out for alot longer, but look at Age of Conan.. the game has been out for almost 2 years and there is alot of content that should of been added at launch.. hell some of the quest givers still don't even have their voice sets in them still when funcom said last year they were going to add them in, and guess what? they never did.

I also find it amusing that people come up with these numbers in their head saying this game is dead, or say there is 300k people playing and the games going to die... I don't care what you know or how long you have been playing MMO's your an idiot if you think you know the numbers on any of these MMO's, because no one knows except the game companys themselfs who host these games on their servers. The only way your going to know is if you actually work for them, or the publisher/representative himself releases the server numbers publicly.