Well to answer the OP. I disagree that this game sucks, but at the same time I don't really agree that this game is all that amazing eather. I'm enjoying it for now.

PS: for you people getting mad at each other on here just because you all have a differnce of opinion on what games you like. Seriously grow up and grow a pair of balls. Who cares, everyone is entitled to like whichever game they want to no matter how crappy or how good it is. Why do you guys care so much if someone else likes a differn't game then you? You know how retarded that is? you guys seriously need to see a shrink or somthing cuz you people have some serious social issues.

MMORPG Gamers fail at life, and know nothing about how the real world works. Grats guys.

Originally posted by Dark-Asylum

 Hopefully all of the prejudiced naysayers of "zomg, sub fee + cash shop? garbage" will come to realize that it's time to get off their high horse and step down with the rest of us.

First of all, nothing in the item shop will advance you more than anyone else. This is old news, yet some people still can't grasp this concept. What will most likely be in the cash shop are nothing more than costume pieces. Any other paid services will probably be something to do with your account, but i'm not sure what because the game has no servers. Yes, I know that Cryptic really should just put the costume pieces that are in the shop in game as unlockable content instead of milking them, but we can't always get what we want(Cryptic may eventually see the fault in their ways). 

Next, a lot of people who were "anxiously waiting to try this one" were also people from City of Heroes and completely, dare I say, forgot(nah, no way)that their beloved super hero game also had the form of a "cash shop". CoX did obviously not have anything remotely close to the form of your typical cash shop, but however, you could purchase costume sets, costume auras, and costume switching animations, as well as additional character slots and respecs. You don't hear anyone giving two stinks about any of this. Champions Online is a solid game, and it deserves your time. It might not be for everyone, but it's a nice game. So, just think before you go around spurting "ugh god cash shop? you just lost a customer" out of your ass.

Man, I couldn't agree with Dark-Asylum here. I've been saying this for so long about Everquest 2. People who Havin't even tried the game say the game is terrible, just simply because it has a cash shop. The cash shops in most of these MMO's does not make other players have an advantage over others. They are simply appearance items.

Gamers are so ignorant on this site sometimes it amazes me, because they make their own judgements on MMO's they havin't even played before or even tried. How dumb is that? Pretty stupid if you ask me. I used to take alot of the gamers negative advice on here, but I don't now, because most of them havin't even played the game for over 10 hours to make a solid judgment on them. Most of the gamers on here don't know shit about the gaming industry or how it works.

Originally posted by //\\//\\oo

Originally posted by patrikd23

 

Yes might be but not a huge leap, I think the "kids of WoW" need to grow up and do some work for a change, so it might be a "healthy bridge" right?

I think we will see more of these mmo in the future.

 

  A lot of the "kids of WoW " are people with jobs who prefer instant satisfaction

 

 

Yeah, and the reason why there are so many shitty mmo's out now is, because of whiners, and crybabys like you who come to forums and bitch, because the game isn't an instant gratification MMO which your obviously used too. IE World of Tardcraft

Originally posted by NovaKayne

I personally enjoy Vanguard more than EQII.  IMO it is more of what the EQ replacement should have been than EQII.

 

 

I couldnt agree more. Vanguard is a great game. I was thinking about comming back too it soon.

Originally posted by Daffid011

Originally posted by Guillermo197 

What is it with PVP?? When do you people understand that EverQuest 2 was never meant to be a PVP game! Just like it's predecesor EverQuest 1.

 

Yes I understand the EQ2 was not designed for pvp, which also has zero bearing on what I said.  Not having pvp is lacking a feature and one that many people seem to consider a very large feature by the looks of other games.   Perhaps there are numberous other features in EQ2 that I am not aware of, but people who tend to make claims of how awesome this game is and how many more features it offers never really seem to qualify those comments.  Pointing at the lack of pvp easily shows a large void in the game in comparison to other mmos on the market. 

 

It doesn't matter why it doesn't have something, because that was not the reason it was brought up. 
 

 

As for your marketing claims, I'll just say this.  Gamestop US hardly carries any PC titles worth mentioning in their strores.  You can find plenty online or even listed as "available" in the store, but what is actually on the shleves is drastically different.  I don't think that has anything to do with soe, but more about gamestop stocking a small selection of pc titles in their brick and mortar stores.  

Some people think there are hordes of potential customers waiting to play eq2 if only soe would market the game.  History has shown they tried and I think this thread reflects the results. I don't think soe is to stupid to miss truckloads of easy money if only they would market a little bit.  Saying things like that really glosses over a lot of real issues. 

 

It's funny that you talk about PVP in EQ2 being terrible. I'm actually on the pvp server for Everquest 2 and it's one of the most popular severs in the game. I agree the PVP in Everquest 2 could be alot better, but I think alot of the things you have said in this thread are pretty ignorant, because most of what you saying is just your opinion. You don't even state any facts to prove your point. And who's to say that SOE have not had bad marketing in the past. Have you ever heard of a guy named John Smedley? John Smedley is President and CEO of Sony Online Entertainment and is a very good example of someone with very bad marketing skills in the past. Do some of your own research and look what he did with Sony's previous games.

To say too Guillermo197 that the marketing is doing well in europe when clearly you don't even live there how do you think you know? how could you know? I don't even know that, because I don't live there! You live in the United States. I live in canada, and I must say I hardly see any EQ2 games on sell in any of the stores here. As a matter of fact the only way I could purchase the game was to get it online. Not to say SOE is bad at marketing, but it does raise some questions. This isn't one or two stores were talking about here, this is alot of stores that should be carrying this product, but it's few and far between compared to Blizzards World of Warcraft. I can get WoW anywere I want too, at any store, and why can't I find any Everquest games, at any stores? I'm not in a small city eather. I'm in Edmonton, Alberta.

You also, talk about history.. well maybe you should do a little research of your own on the history of Sony Online Entertainment, because frankly you are very misinformed Daffid011
 

-> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Online_Entertainment

-> http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/02/21/tech/gamecore/main1335511.shtml

-> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Smedley_(developer)

It's too bad alot of people don't like EQ2 simply, because of SOE, or because it has a item mall. I really think EQ2 has alot more to offer then most of the MMO's on the market right now. I have beta tested alot of upcomming MMO's this year and must say most of them don't even compare to this game at all. There are so many things you can do in this game, and there is so much content in it, it's just plain rediculas. And what I like about it is that you don't have to just sit and quest and lvl all the time, there is simply so many things differn't things too do. I havin't had as much fun playing a MMO like this since the original Starwars Galaxies.

It's too bad SOE is so bad at marketing, because if they would of treated their customers better in the past, their previous customers who they treated unfairly could see how much of a great game EQ2 has become since it's original release in 2004. There has been so many things added into EQ2 it's just plain retarded, and I don't think I'll be getting bored of it anytime soon.

Originally posted by Guillermo197

Originally posted by DoomsDay01

Originally posted by Guillermo197

Sorry, but this is from the first 1-2 years. So much has changed since then. It's not even funny.

There were only 2 adventure packs released and are now made free since a long long time ago already.

Station Exchange caused luckily an uproar so they kept it to seperate new servers. Can't say it's a real success really.

Altho I hate Station Cash and the way it was stealth patched in. So far it indeed seems to be fluff crap. And they going to use it for Paid Character transfer services, expansion sale, char renaming (already in), character appearance change (already in) and such.

The game has more content and features then any other MMO out there to date.

The reason not more people are playing this good game (to answer the OP) is because SOE TOTALLY SUCKS at Marketing. Always have and always will.

Cheers

 

What?  EQ1 is getting what, Their 16th expansion this fall? Sorry, I disagree with that statement completely. EQ2 has a long road ahead of them before they can match eq1 in content.

And SOE does not suck at marketing, that is one of their best abilities, what they suck at is game management. They dont listen to their customers and think they know what is better for their customers than the customers do. That is where they totally suck. Look at all their games, EQ1 and EQ2 is now EQeasy. Matrix is gone, SWG is a fraction of what it once was and not because of its age, Vanguard I wont blame on them as it was already in trouble when they got it. The rest of their games are just indicative of how the company handles game management, boring and uninteresting. One day, when they actually get people who really know how to run a game in management, we will see them come back to a higher status. Until then, they will remain as SOE sucks.

 

We are talking about games released since 2004!!! Tjeez. And from that period, EQ2 provides easily the most content and features to date.

Ofcourse (and I sincerly hope) that games released in the end 90's like EQ1 has more content by now or it wouldn't be up and running anymore now would it?? But hardly any new player is going to jump on a heavily outdated game released 10 years ago.

SOE sucks at Marketing! Period!

Except of old EQ1 fans, hardly anyone here in Europe knows about SOE (including gamestores employees)! There isn't a single box of any SOE game available in the prominent stores.

Here in Oslo we got dozens of Gamestop stores and they have not a single SOE product in the shelves, while boxes from like WoW, FFXI, LOTRO (and its expansion), CoX, Guild Wars, etc, etc are prominent on display.

That's easy 100-200k potential subs for EQ2 out of the window. Extra subs they could have had along the years if they bothered to look outside their US borders!!

 

I love you Guillermo197 <3333 and i couldn't agree more :D

Originally posted by Guillermo197

Originally posted by Resetgun

I played EQ 2 long time ago, so not sure what has been changed since then. However these are reasons why I don't play it anymore:

1. SOE product. Not going to say anything more about this....
2. Avatar graphics were then poorly made. Same model was just retextured with different armours. Environment graphics looked okay.
3. Numerious expansion packs, extra services and paid to play content. It just started to feel like that each month I was supposed to pay extra money from new services, extra content or whatever SOE invented that month after my subscription fee.
4. SOE station exchange was launched around same time. And at time it felt like that they were deceiving all honest players and reward those players who were paying from gold.

Otherwise EQ2 felt very similar with WoW. Samekind quest, leveling and combat. So instead of EQ2 I did choose WoW.

 

Sorry, but this is from the first 1-2 years. So much has changed since then. It's not even funny.

There were only 2 adventure packs released and are now made free since a long long time ago already.

Station Exchange caused luckily an uproar so they kept it to seperate new servers. Can't say it's a real success really.

Altho I hate Station Cash and the way it was stealth patched in. So far it indeed seems to be fluff crap. And they going to use it for Paid Character transfer services, expansion sale, char renaming (already in), character appearance change (already in) and such.

The game has more content and features then any other MMO out there to date.

The reason not more people are playing this good game (to answer the OP) is because SOE TOTALLY SUCKS at Marketing. Always have and always will.

Cheers

Thanks for the intellegent reply. I can see what your saying here, and you probably are right about SOE being pretty bad at marketing. I've never liked SOE myself, but there games EQ2 and Vanguard are pretty good games IMO. I am surprised more people don't play them, and people would rather have WoW in their hands. But I guess the reason for that is because of SOE. Most of the answers on this thread have been mostly about SOE and how much they have been burned by them through customer support, or just general and drastic changes to their past games.

I don't blame how people feel about SOE, its too bad SOE were so bad to their customers. I guess alot of that is the result of what I see now in their games. (Just not as many people playing their games anymore)

Originally posted by girlgeek

Originally posted by grandpagamer

Originally posted by Samuraisword

What an odd question.

Simply put, EQ2 sucks, and it's also an SOE product.

 

Coming from someone promoting the failed game Darkfall i find that a pretty good endorsement. 

 

This made me laugh.  ^5

yeah this made me laugh too.
 

his signature he has a picture of Dark Fall online... lmao

Originally posted by qombi

Originally posted by socrates656

Originally posted by Meleagar

I played EQII for about a month. Frankly, the game was just ugly. All the avatars were ugly, and the world was ugly. WoW was much better looking and had artistic style and flair.   Being a casual player, it's not like either game offered me anything beyond that.

 

yeah. but thats because you are a casual gamer. You like the instant gradification games. You probably wouldn't even like the original Starwars Galaxies eather

 

You are funny. EQ2 is a super casual game now.

If you Read the post above. I quoted it to show I was responding to his comment about wow. I was comparing it to WoW. WoW is more of a casual game then EQ2. I am sorry I should have made that more clear in the reply.

Cheers

Originally posted by durton

Originally posted by socrates656

Originally posted by Daffid011

Originally posted by socrates656 

Did you know you can craft better looking stuff then the items in the cash shop? Everything you get with the 15$ subsciption is actually better then what the cashshop provides. Hardly anyone even buys anything out of there.
 

It's to bad you havin't even played EQ2 or even seen the Cashshop, because you would see it's not as bad as you say. I mean seriously, how can you honestly know when you havin't even seen it for yourself? You have no idea what you are talking about, because your obviously pretty ignorant if you think that way, when you havin't even seen it. Now I see how Bush got in as a president. WoW

"It isn't that bad".  

This game has station exchange so players can sell items to each other for real cash (soe tried to push it on every servers, but player outrage stopped that)

The game also has loot cards that soe pushed down the players throats every few months.  Soe didn't make the mistake of asking for player feedback on this.

Now there is a cash shop that you say "isn't that bad" which is admitting is bad.

 

hahahahahaha thats awesome.  Sir you made my day.
 

Thanks, I Thought I'de bring some humor into the thread :D

Originally posted by Daffid011

SWG was a horrible game from release day 1. 

if you honestly think that then you must have the IQ of a pea

Originally posted by Meleagar

I played EQII for about a month. Frankly, the game was just ugly. All the avatars were ugly, and the world was ugly. WoW was much better looking and had artistic style and flair.   Being a casual player, it's not like either game offered me anything beyond that.

yeah. but thats because you are a casual gamer. You like the instant gradification games. You probably wouldn't even like the original Starwars Galaxies eather

Originally posted by Loke666

Originally posted by Miustus

I did. Unless there's been an update I missed, there were only two servers that you could even use the funds on.

 

Well, you can buy some stuff on all servers, like skins, furniture and XP pots.

But on Sony exchange servers you can buy and sell everything, there is a huge difference but the fact is that the cash shops do exists on all servers.

Personally they dont really affect me either but I still think it is wrong to get  in game items for cash in a P2P game, I still play it because I have found no game that is more fun to me than EQ2 butr cash shops are wrong.

Still they don't really affect me, the LoN loot cards are a lot more annoying, they are actually useful sometimes.

Loke666 ive seen you on these forums for along time and I must say your'e problably one of the more open minded gamers around here with experiance. I play EQ2 for the same reasons as you. I'm hoping Starwars The Old Republic will be good, but I don't have my fingers crossed.

Most of the MMO's out now imo are just garbage, and if I don't find anything good within a year from now. I probably will be giving up MMO's all together.

Originally posted by Knytta

Originally posted by Daffid011

It doesn't look like that has been a winning formula so far considering they were once undisputed kings of the genre and now there are plenty of companies doing better than their flagship title.

Has station cash proven a winner for soe?  I don't think so, but again it is debatable.

 

The mistake they made was continuing to make games that was too "Hardcore" if EQ2 on release had been as easy as it is now it would be the big game and WoW would be seen as a bad copy (disregarding bugs and such just to make a point).

But EQ2 is an old game and can probably seem daunting to get into, it is not advertised much either.  I agree that TSO was a huge letdown for the casual gamers (a point made by a another poster than Daffid) but it was probably needed to retain the raiders and people that play a lot of hours. I think the failure of EQ2 is that it does not really know what it tries to be, is it a game for the Hardcore MMO player, yes somewhat. Is it a game for the adult casual MMO player, yes somewhat. And so on and on.

I dunno. I like it.

 

 

 

 

Yes I agree with you, and I think one of the reasons why less people play EQ2 is because of SOE's respect for the customers, and players in general. But also that WoW is easier to get into and isn't as hard.

I think the problem with gamers now is that they all want instant gradification, if somthing gets remotly difficult for them and they whine and complain about it on forums.

I don't blame the game companys for this, because the game companys are in the buisness of making money. They are just catering to the casual gamer. I however am not a casual gamer, I like things difficult and challanging. I like complex crafting systems and realistic gameplay. This is why I liked Starwars Galaxies so much, and Everquest 1

I blame all you retarded casual gamers for these new shitty mmo's, because you are the reason why we have so many WoW clones now, linear, and static MMO's.

Originally posted by Daffid011

Originally posted by socrates656 

Did you know you can craft better looking stuff then the items in the cash shop? Everything you get with the 15$ subsciption is actually better then what the cashshop provides. Hardly anyone even buys anything out of there.
 

It's to bad you havin't even played EQ2 or even seen the Cashshop, because you would see it's not as bad as you say. I mean seriously, how can you honestly know when you havin't even seen it for yourself? You have no idea what you are talking about, because your obviously pretty ignorant if you think that way, when you havin't even seen it. Now I see how Bush got in as a president. WoW

"It isn't that bad".  

This game has station exchange so players can sell items to each other for real cash (soe tried to push it on every servers, but player outrage stopped that)

The game also has loot cards that soe pushed down the players throats every few months.  Soe didn't make the mistake of asking for player feedback on this.

Now there is a cash shop that you say "isn't that bad" which is admitting is bad.

 

Originally posted by qombi

Originally posted by socrates656

Originally posted by qombi

Originally posted by Miustus

As for the WoW soloing. Yes, you can solo to 80. But once you get there, it gets boring fast unless you are a hardcore raider.

 

The item shop argument is sound. After all, you do pay to play a game, not pay to see other people pay more and get more. However, people buy accounts for MMOs all the time, so isn't it true that ALL MMOs have item shops, ethical or not?

 

Illegal purchases don't make SOE's greed okay. If I pay monthly I best be getting all items in game be it fluff or  whatever. After all that is what the other MMOs do that charge you 15/month. Why does SOE feel the need to milk their players further? It will be a cold day in hell before I pay monthly to play a sub based game with an item shop tacted on. It hurts people that play even if they do not participate in the garbage. Do you think they are going to produce as much as they would have before the item shop and put it all in the game for the cost of your sub? No they will not. Some items that you would have gotten like in other pay to play MMOs will now be reserved for the item shop.

No thanks.

Dude, have you even looked at the cash shop in EQ2? Most of that stuff if crap. The things in the item shop are mostly all appearnce items, and furniture. Theres nothing in there that you need in order to advance, or play the game. It's just optional. I don't even buy anything out of the cash shop. Everything you can do is within the game. The cash shop is just somthing optional for people who want appearance items, or special looking furnature. Theres nothing in the cash shop that is even remotly even that great. Most of the stuff thats good is the stuff that you get from just a regular subsciption.

I have no Idea how you think the EQ2's cash shop has anything too do with getting good gear or loot, and forces you to pay for the items in the cashshop, because it dosn't at all.

Again I ask... have you even seen the cashshop in EQ2 recently? Apperantly not.

 

All those appearance items should be in the game, not in a cash shop. No I haven't seen the cash shop lately, nor have I ever or will never. I don't play sub based games with item shops. 

Did you know you can craft better looking stuff then the items in the cash shop? Everything you get with the 15$ subsciption is actually better then what the cashshop provides. Hardly anyone even buys anything out of there.
 

It's to bad you havin't even played EQ2 or even seen the Cashshop, because you would see it's not as bad as you say. I mean seriously, how can you honestly know when you havin't even seen it for yourself? You have no idea what you are talking about, because your obviously pretty ignorant if you think that way, when you havin't even seen it. Now I see how Bush got in as a president. WoW

Originally posted by qombi

Originally posted by Miustus

As for the WoW soloing. Yes, you can solo to 80. But once you get there, it gets boring fast unless you are a hardcore raider.

 

The item shop argument is sound. After all, you do pay to play a game, not pay to see other people pay more and get more. However, people buy accounts for MMOs all the time, so isn't it true that ALL MMOs have item shops, ethical or not?

 

Illegal purchases don't make SOE's greed okay. If I pay monthly I best be getting all items in game be it fluff or  whatever. After all that is what the other MMOs do that charge you 15/month. Why does SOE feel the need to milk their players further? It will be a cold day in hell before I pay monthly to play a sub based game with an item shop tacted on. It hurts people that play even if they do not participate in the garbage. Do you think they are going to produce as much as they would have before the item shop and put it all in the game for the cost of your sub? No they will not. Some items that you would have gotten like in other pay to play MMOs will now be reserved for the item shop.

No thanks.

Dude, have you even looked at the cash shop in EQ2? Most of that stuff is crap. The things in the item shop are mostly all appearnce items, and furniture. Theres nothing in there that you need in order to advance, or play the game. It's just optional. I don't even buy anything out of the cash shop. Everything you can do is within the game. The cash shop is just somthing optional for people who want appearance items, or special looking furnature. Theres nothing in the cash shop that is even remotly even that great. Most of the stuff thats good is the stuff that you get from just a regular subsciption.

I have no Idea how you think the EQ2's cash shop has anything too do with getting good gear or loot, and forces you to pay for the items in the cashshop, because it dosn't at all.

Again I ask... have you even seen the cashshop in EQ2 recently? Apperantly not.

Originally posted by drbaltazar

Originally posted by socrates656

Been playing mmo's for 10 years. Played wow for 4 1/2 years. Quit wow because the game is retarded now

Everquest  2 is 10x better then it was before. Why are not more people playing this game? This game is so much better then World of Warcraft in almost every single way.

- More things too do in Eq2 then wow, when you play eq2 you will always have somthing too do. You dont just to have to quest and lvl up all the time.

- Better crafting system

- Better character creation

- Better class system

- Better gameplay

- Better questing system

- Better achievments system

- Player Housing

- More game lore

- Books that you can actually learn stuff about and get special attacks when completing the quests they you get from the books

- Better achievments system then wow, more indepth

- Better talent tree's

 

I could list many more things. So my question is... what the hell is wrong with gamers now a days? Why do more people play wow? what the hell is wrong with gamers? do they like to play shitty games or what?

2 reason full of graphic issue and its like vanguard they arent corrected ,they just ignore bug and restart server
 

check this, gw is what 4 year old and the graphic engine age very nicelly

it would be worth it to put a new graphic engine or update some stuff check wow they add new graphic toy every major update same with gw ,when there is a flaw in one area that makes you think theres 64 memory leak in the game its time to verify the game from A to Zand if some area need new program because error were made 5 years ago they need to be corrected ,no mather how many time you restart server it wont just go away lol

if at least it was runing on the system that can run silkroad it cannot run on computer that can run silkroad

gees its a ressource hog it take the same ressource as lotr

and the only way this game could get more player is if it went f2p store based system

like a lot of aging game do witch im sorry to say works ,why? those game would die anyways check ddo

they ll support both system and it will add lot player that wouldnt have wanted to ever test the 14 day trial

and most will probably buy lot of ingame item

i bet when wow is on its death bed they ll support both f2p and p2p

 

Hey man I don't want to sound like a dick here or anything, but you need to take a english course in your spelling and puncuation. Most of your sentences don't make any sence at all.

Hmm Now I know why I question why I am a part of this pathetic race of human beings.

Ok first of all.

Im not a fanboi of EQ2 i just think its alot better then most of the MMO's now a days. Im surpised more people don't play it.

Alot of you people are extreamly ignorant on here it seems, and seem to judge/argue with one another like a bunch of 4 year olds not even knowing them or the games they have played. Some of you people really need to seriously stay on your medication, I wasn't trying to offend anyone I was just stating my opinion.. holy shit.

I have played many MMO's over the past 10 years, and I'm not an everquest fan, I'm not a fan of any MMO's. I'm surprised that people would rather play WoW a linear type of game, over everquest 2 that has more deversity too it.

Most of the responses I have read on here is just because you are all still butt hurt over what happind in Starwars Galaxies. Thats understandable, because I was there too when the new NGE ruined the game and I was mad about it, but you don't see me still crying about it? I mean what? it happind like 4 years ago get over it lol. Yeah I don't like SOE eather, but I'm not talking about SOE I'm talking about Everquest 2 I couldn't give 2 shits what SOE DO in there free time they can go wack off in the corner for all i care

I'm talking about Everquest 2 as it is NOW. Not what it was 4 years ago. Yeah it had a bad launch just like WoW did. Just because a game has a bad launch dosn't mean it's a bad game. You people seem to focus so much on the past rather then the actual game as it is now. EQ2 is alot better and has more to offer then most of the MMO's on the market right now PVE wise. PVP wise though it is lacking. Perhaps that is why it dosnt have as many players hmm? Not because of SOE or because of SWG?

Does WoW suck? Yes it does, WHY? Because the game Wrath of the Lich King is easy-mode. I could play it with one arm tied behind my back. The game is an instant gratification MMO. DeathKnights? do I need to even say more? Most of the people who play WoW are eather adults who act like 14 year olds, or are 14 year olds playing it. The Everquest 2 community is 10x more mature and more polite. I have only met one person that acted very immature so far from playing EQ2

The original WoW was great, but the WoW now is garbage in my opinion. And Anyone who enjoys playing it. I feel very sorry for them, because there are so many more MMO's out there that are so much better, but if you like playing with childern, and getting a full set of legendary loot from only raiding for only 3 1/2 weeks. All the power to you.