Originally posted by Opapanax

I hear so many times. Primary PC gamers say.. "Why don't you such-n-such go back to you're console "lower-tiered-primate" and leave us grown-ups (PC gamers) in peace..

Then as soon as console gets something especially new and sparkling, they come a clamouring for PC releases and bitch about why it's not on PC for what ever reason and why consoles are getting all the love.

It's seems like folks like Console gaming more than they can admit..

*Note: This isn't directed at OP or any in thread. Imjustsayin*

Never heard it before except in the case of Red Dead Redemption. That game would truly shine in PC multiplayer. Using a gamepad in a multiplayer shooter is very awkward compared to using mouse and keyboard.

Also I would never admitt I like console gaming more than PC.. Bought Xbox360 JUST for RDR and practically never played anything else on it.

According to Dark Side of Gaming and PC Gamer, Division developers encouraged potential players to "sign petitions, get on forums, and post their requests."

You can sign the petition here.

Let's make this great game a PC game, where it will shine and be a SMASH hit. Let's make Rockstar Games regret their decision to leave Red Dead Redemption console exclusive.

Originally posted by Rusque

These are some lofty claims.

We can cross our fingers, but let's not forget the GW2 developers manifestos:

 

Ree Soesbee: "We do not want to build the same MMO everyone else is building, and in Guild Wars 2, it's your world. It's your story. You affect things around you in a very permanent way."

Colin Johanson: "Cause and effect: A single decision made by a player cascades out in a chain of events."

Ree Soesbee: "You're meeting new people whom you will then see again. You're rescuing a village that will stay rescued, who then remember you. The most important thing in any game should be the player. We have built a game for them."

 

 

Shush! You party pooper :P

Originally posted by ichihaifu

Originally posted by lizardbones

This is why consoles have an advantage when they release, and why they keep the advantage for awhile longer than comparable or better PC hardware. Developers can code things more efficiently or better for a known hardware platform, and the games will perform better. This isn't the case with PCs. PCs will at some point just brute force their way past the consoles, but it won't be right away.

PC's are already at better spot though. Not in the same price range as consoles are but if you spend a good grand or two in a gaming dedicated enthusiast PC, you will be miles ahead in performance and graphical fidelity in games than consoles can hope to be even when not optimized for YOUR system. This is especially true for consoles at launch when the infrastructure is "new".

That doesn't count for much when you want just that ONE game - like The Division, which is next-gen console ONLY.

I know that feeling well, when I bought Xbox360 just to be able to play Red Dead Redemption.

With all the recent news, I think this console begs to be "jailbreak'd" and hackers of all sorts are gonna be all over it as soon as it is released.

Xbox Live better be more secure than Fort Knox

This one is also interesting:

Originally posted by Torvaldr

Originally posted by Arcticnoon

Originally posted by ice-vortex
The Division should have won Best Hybrid-MMO.

I agree 100% The Division mops the floor with destiny. I was watching E3 live via stream and getting ready for work, all at once I was mezmerized by this game I couldnt guess the tilt of. Almost made me late for work watching a game that was more polished than most games at E3. Ask any real shooter fan an they will put it above Destiny on their list.

I'm not even a shooter fan and that game looks better than any shooter I've seen.  Just the idea that someone can come in and provide support on their mobile device (that helicopter) in real time is awesome and is real innovation.

The rest of the list is okay, but putting EQ:N on best of show was a cheap move in my opinion and unfair to the rest that actually had to face public scrutiny.  EQN could have got an honorable mention or an OMG, but hyping it at this point just makes it all sound like blather just for the sake of talking and excitement.

Anyone who didn't watch The Division gameplay from E3 should open a new tab and watch it RIGHT NOW :)

Originally posted by Shadowguy64

Originally posted by wizyy

I don't know if THE DIVISION can be called an MMO or not, but surely is more MMO than many games covered on this website.

Whoever watched this E3 livestream had to choose THE DIVISION as the -best of show- game.

I replay the shown gameplay of that game on daily basis and still noticing more details. It's incredible and truly a next-gen game.

 

Nope, sorry. Any game that actually presents at E3 are automatically disqualified from Best of Show.

Haha, hear that, Bill? :D

I don't know if THE DIVISION can be called an MMO or not, but surely is more MMO than many games covered on this website.

Whoever watched this E3 livestream had to choose THE DIVISION as the -best of show- game.

I replay the shown gameplay of that game on daily basis and still noticing more details. It's incredible and truly a next-gen game.

Xbox One: too many reasons NOT to buy one, too few reasons to buy one.

BUT

one thing is kinda worrying, release date?

Amazon.com is listing December 31st as a launch date for Playstation 4, and November 30th as a launch date for Xbox One.

I don't believe that Sony will launch PS4 a FULL MONTH after XBone, even AFTER Christmas, but.. it may happen, and gamers are impatient lot.

This may be the one hope for a good start for Xbox One.

EDIT: ...aaand this post will again be missed among the childish quote/reply wars

Well, I expected this to happen way back when I read that you could import any picture on a tabard and ship's sail...

I like to have a laugh as anyone, but we will see obscenities and whatnot at every corner if this tool get OKayed in western version.

Some people will enjoy this freedom but ArcheAge will be ridiculed by most, imho.

These shenanigans may attract people from the infamous GOON Squad, though, and when you add the world PvP (ganking), they may come in numbers to AA.

Originally posted by Mannish

Originally posted by Talonsin

No game exchange made me lose all interest in the new xbox.  Most of the good games for the xbox also come out on PC so I wont be missing much. 

I'm over 40 and already have a PC connected to my TV for storage of movies and playing games on a large screen.  I dont need Microsofts locked down, full of restrictions, crap box to do basic stuff on my TV.   

 

The no game exchange is really the only thing I see that's hard to swallow but its the same with pc gaming. 99% of pc gaming is now digital with no trade in or exhanges. Just take a look at STEAM. Console gaming is going to go full digital and its not a matter of if but when.

As for most of the games I still don't see it. Only Titanfall and Spark are going pc  and really its not about pc, its that  these games still wont be on PS4. Quantum Break, Killer Instinct, Ryse, Forza, Halo, Dead Rising 3, Powerstar Gold, Crimson Dragon, LocoCycle and off course first time ever working with Insomnica brining Sunset Overdirve. How are most of the games coming to PC?

You forgot the 2 games that practically stole this E3 - DESTINY and THE DIVISION. Neither will be available on PC.

I'm still half-expecting ArcheAge to be released at the end of this year.

But next year The Division is gonna take a LOT of my time, even though it's not a full-fledged MMO or even a PC game... yeah, it's that good.

Fail after fail after fail.

Unreal, almost.

To add the source of my previous statement:

Xbox One Will Only Support LIVE in Certain Countries At Launch

http://www.gamefront.com/xbox-one-will-only-support-live-in-certain-countries-at-launch/

To add to these, seems to be neverending, failings of Xbox One:

Xbox One Will Only Support LIVE in Certain Countries At Launch

http://www.gamefront.com/xbox-one-will-only-support-live-in-certain-countries-at-launch/

Xbox one has just too many bad things going, main being the price and the online thing.

I agree about the games, the line-up of exclusives is better for my taste than Sony's...

BUT

I live in a country NOT supported by Xbox One - and it supports ONLY 21 country in the world. So that's a deal breaker for me even if I wanted to buy Xbox One (I currently own Xbox360).

Originally posted by xAPOCx
Victoria Voss Is annoying imo. She needs to just stop talking and let the game speak for its self lol.

Yeah, I stopped watching because of her voice, it's shaky and high-pitched, breaking all the time.

BUT the video is the VERY good for people to learn many things about the game (if you don't mind Victoria's voice)

I wouldn't even be surprised if they announce that you can't play if Kinect doesn't recognize there's at least one person in front of XBOX ONE.

(because I bet there will be many who will cover that camera so that NSA/CIA/Obama don't watch them :P)

The only way I think XBOX ONE can get out of this mess and not fail utterly is 

if they offer these games that require you to connect to internet every 24 hours AT 50% discount price.

... which of course will never happen, but realistically they could do that for their own exclusive games.

Also if they don't want to backtrack on their "always online" policy, maybe some "great hacker" will suddenly show up and let the internet know how to remove this "connect every 24 hours" crap so Microsoft don't lose their face...