might not be all the trailer either...

As character classes get buffed up the older content never got augmented to handle the new abilities of players.  So the older stuff in original is very easy now.  Especially at the moment with the new Spell power upgrade and abiliy damage upgrades.

Originally posted by VirusDancer

Originally posted by arenasb

Originally posted by VirusDancer

Originally posted by arenasb

I still think the original cinematic was the best. Anyway, this wasn't bad and technically it looked great. Love them or hate them you have to admit that Blizzard's cinematic team is top notch.

Have you watched the DCUO cinematic?  http://www.gametrailers.com/video/exclusive-who-dc-universe/702049

I could watch a feature length movie from them.

Have you watched the SW:TOR Hope cinematic?  http://www.swtor.com/media/trailers/hope-cinematic-trailer

I could watch a feature length movie from them.

Cannot really say that the Blizz team is top notch...

 Did I say they were the absolute best? No, but they are certainly up there with anyone regarding game cinematics.

BTW, those cinematics you just posted are made by a separate company that specializes in animation.

http://www.blur.com/

Difference on meaning of terms then.  You said top notch.  To me that is best.  To you it is not.

Aside from that, you put them up there with anyone.  I would not.  But that is just a difference of opinion on a subjective matter.

As for the topic, have not seen anybody that has liked the lil' Cata tidbit more than the previous movies - though people will always have their favorites from among the previous offerings.

 While the DCUO looked nice but the use of powers in it sucked and for that I would not watch a movie of it....

The SW:TOR was only so so...and I would rather not watch a movie of it.

Originally posted by maji

In a game with changes, there is always hope that sooner or later they turn to the better. And it's always fun to try out new stuff anyway. In games without any significant changes, only one is guaranteed: boredom.

I agree, the new talent trees are really tiny. On the other hand: in the end, there is only one optimal spec for each purpose. And in that moment, any thought of free choice is an illusion.

 Exactly...and you get your special talent tree ability faster so they had to limit the access.

On the Star Wars lore...while a lot of people like the old repub game....I would probably guess of the masses of star wars fans they are more in the lore and time period of the films as opposed to the past that was never visually shown to them through the eyes of Lucas....though how crappy that view might be can be debated.

sent one

Originally posted by bunnyhopper

Originally posted by Horusra

you might say that they do not exist, but someone that views those extremes as hardcore would say your idea of hardcore is not hardcore....as someone playing the farm game on facebook might think their game is hardcore....hardcore is relative...to try to claim one is more hardcore than another is very subjective to what one individual thinks is hardcore.

Hardcore is subjective in exactly the same way difficult is subject. Someone may find one task more difficult than someone else but there tends to be a common consensus was to what constitutes difficulty within a specific genre/theme.

 

Take two average people talking about sports, whilst one may find swimming more difficult than the other, both are likely to agree that swimming one mile is less difficult than swimming one mile through shark infested waters.

 

I'm sure someone playing the farm game on facebook may find it hardcore, if the game then added the ability for players to kill each other whilst they were trying to complete tasks (or whatever the feck they do on that game) do you think the same person would find it less or more hardcore, i'm betting it would be the latter.

 

As to the first part, well given that we are talking about mmos and more importantly mmos that exist, whether someone thinks something is not hardcore unless your family is gunned down every time your avatar gets hit by an npc really is a moot point.

 I think the swimmer would call swimming with the sharks stupid....and the farm game player would say the game is now not fun because it removes the strategy.

Killing or being killed by others is not the only thing that makes something hardcore.

Eve Online even without PvP would still be hardcore in playing the market to make money.  Myst never had killing and solving some of the stuff without a guide is hardcore.  Just because a game does not have PvP does not mean it is not hardcore.....adding PvP just to make it "hardcore" in your eyes can ruin the "hardcore" that is already in the game and make it not more hardcore, but more crappy.

soliders in afghanistan would call us all themepark players probably...no matter your "game"

you might say that they do not exist, but someone that views those extremes as hardcore would say your idea of hardcore is not hardcore....as someone playing the farm game on facebook might think their game is hardcore....hardcore is relative...to try to claim one is more hardcore than another is very subjective to what one individual thinks is hardcore.

And realer hardcore would be total looting even of a players bank, destruction of their in game housing, and perma death....

even harder realer hardcore than that would be every time a player kills you can takes all your stuff you have to go out and buy the game again to play again....

even harder of the real hard hardcore would be when your character dies you are actually killed in your home by a ninja from the game designer....

hardcore is all relative.

the worst part is in DF and about 70% of Eve...and other pvp oriented games.

About 4 years and a few months i would say.  Seeing as I started my first character in Nov of 2004 and you could not make 80 till at the least Nov 2008.

Originally posted by Wickedjelly

Everything would be an EQ clone then I suppose.  Which I'm glad WoW did happen because EQ clone just doesn't roll of the tongue like WoW clone.

 Have to call them Ever clones.

Height makes right....I believe god said the tall shall inherit the earth in the bible somewhere.

I remember as a kid going to the Smithsonian Air and Space museum and getting freeze dried ice cream and I thought it was the greatest thing ever.  Went back about 10 years later and got it again....and it tastes like crap though it is the same.  Sometimes your memories are better than how the real thing is after your tastes, desires, and expectations have refined.

there would just be a lot less people playing mmo's...investment into them would be smaller....less games would be produced.  There is a reason in the western world that WoW has so many players compaired to other games.  Fact is it seems most people do not care for the style of other games.  I doubt more would like them now if WoW was not around or they would be playing them instead of WoW. 

Blizzard sold WoW because of their name...then the players of the game actually liked it.  EQ2 came out at the same time with a lot of hype.  It sold well, but a lot of players did not like it.

Why would they send an lawyer...they would just file a motion to dismiss for lack of standing due to EA not being the owner and holding no liability in the company that created and ran APB.  Unless EA was running the servers they have not liability except an agreement to provide cash to APB in return for them getting the returns for sales of the software and a return on their investment.

Originally posted by DrGreenbacks

Originally posted by Horusra

Originally posted by DrGreenbacks

Originally posted by Horusra

Where is this policy from before?  What is it?

Read the www.massively.com article.

 http://www.massively.com/2010/09/27/ea-giving-free-game-to-disgruntled-apb-buyers/

 

Only article I see...and it says nothing about policy.

What's the title of the article??

 THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO USE IN COURT...LOLOLOLOLOL...that a separate website writing an eye catching title for an article is a policy of a separate entity.....oh lord....please...please go to court...I want to be there.....this will be great.

Originally posted by DrGreenbacks

Originally posted by Horusra

Where is this policy from before?  What is it?

Read the www.massively.com article.

 http://www.massively.com/2010/09/27/ea-giving-free-game-to-disgruntled-apb-buyers/

Only article I see...and it says nothing about policy.