LOL. seriously? I haven't seen a worse game than Runescape yet.

Demons are not the strongest non-boss monsters. Undead Dragons, Juggernauts and Hellhounds are all much stronger. But, all of them including Demons are premium only. The strongest monster in the free area is Warlock, who is very easy and can be killed by even a level 100 with not much effort.

You are expecting too much from a game and also you are expecting too much from players.

If you want strategy, I suggest you to show some leadership and do the planning yourself. Don't call others to not have a strategy, when you yourself don't have. Strategy is something that needs to be invented by you, the player and not the game developer Mythic.

When I play order side, there are two classes that you need to watch out for:

1. Witch Elf

2. The black orc

And from those 2, Witch Elf is the one everyone hates, because 1 vs 1, everyone knows you cannot beat a Witch Elf. Also, if a WE targets you, if you don't get assistance, you are sure going to die.

Also, the black orc is a thick lumpsum of meat, which you can never seem to make a dent on.

I don't know how many of you are currently playing WAR. I am sure some of you have never even played the game.

First of all, On Oct 10th Mythic gave a press statement that they have currently 750k subs. So, all of you guys who thought they only reached around 300k subs are totally wrong.

Second, as I still play the game, I have not seen a population drop. Rather, I have seen a population spread from high pop servers to low pop servers. When I started playing, I started my char on a low pop server. The pop of my server has dramatically increased and now it has "High" pop ratings on peak times.

That says something. And when I played yesterday, I had less than one minute wait times to go in scenarios. So, I seriously doubt that pop numbers have fallen sharply.

In my opinion pop numbers are still above 500k.

LoTR doesn't have over 300k subs. It has merely 150k-200k subs and that is still good for a P2P game. Only few MMORPGs can claim subs above 100k.

The 11 million subs of WoW is actually a different story. Only 3 million of that are western subs. The way they count eastern subs (chinese, korean) etc is different. In China and Korea they use monthly cards to play, so they are not persistent subs. WAR still has not gone to China, Korea.

WAR cannot beat WoW. That is impossible. But, I think in long term WAR will be the MMORPG with the second highest western subscriber numbers. And that can be achieved by merely 250k+

I love Public Quests and I hate LFG. If you think I am retard, it is your opinion.

Yes, on World PvP, destruction has an edge, but for most (90%) RvR scenarios, Order wins.

As someone else said, if you don't have fun, may be this is not the game for you.

For me, the game is moving too quickly to my liking, I am actually leveling faster than I want. One RvR scenario at level 10 gets 10% exp into a level and I am already level 12 and I cannot do RvR scenarios for Tier 1 anymore :(

And most people are still doing Tier 1 quests and I like to be with where most people are. T2 areas seems empty compared to T1 zones.

I don't know, I haven't played in Dwarf country. But, in empire vs chaos, where I play as a Warrior Priest, I only have to click on the RvR scenario button and I am on a scenario with 12+ players on each team and it is loads of fun. Not only that, if I goto the contested RvR area, there are always 10-20 players from each side constantly fighting. So, may be it is your server, or may be it is a dwarf thing.

Also, I have completed all the PQs in my area, at times over 10 people participating in the final stages. I cannot believe how come you can't find anyone to do the later stages. Again, may be it is specific to dwarf areas as I have heard it is the least favourite race.

Try rolling up a human.

Originally posted by WiccanCircle

Originally posted by sandgrown

A) i ve spoken to a people i know personally who have been part of the beta test and every one of them has had a similar problem on machines of a similar spec .

B) i ve also chatted  to people ingame and a lot say they ve also encountered similar issues . so i doubt if its down to peoples inability to set up thier systems properly .

 

I split this up to address parts of the OPs post individually.  For parts A & B...

The plural of anecdote is anedotes - not data. 

For everyone that has said that their system, which runs every other program in the known world perfectly, but wont run AoC... there are others with less spectacular gaming systems that are running it fine, on medium setting  etc.

There are many variables in who well a computer functions.  But FunCom has done actual research on what type of system can run AoC.  If some individual person's computer, which is 'better' than the recommended stats. wont run AoC, I suggest that it is likely a problem on their end.  (and with that, flames can begin... Now.)

Originally posted by sandgrown

C)  there are also plenty of people with average pcs that are reporting how well it runs on thier paticular system .

maybe this is down them willing to overlook how the game runs in populated areas .

again its down to what you find personally acceptable .

Ever consider that they might be telling the truth?  Ever look in the mirror and ... (OH!  Heaven forebid !)  consider that your system might be the weak part of the chain?  Not suggesting the exact cause or effect here, merely pointing out that their ANECDOTE cancels yours. 

 

Originally posted by sandgrown

D)  if your having any kind of doubt about how well it will run on your pc the chances are you might be disapointed .

E)  my advice to you is wait untill theres a free trial and see how it runs on your system for yourself .

F)  conan looks to be a great game but it does nt run well on a lot of mid range systems .try before you buy .

D)  "Any kind of doubt", "chances are", "might be... " - In debates and philosophy these are called weasel words.  They add no data, no substance.  They back up their emotional nothingness with... you guessed it, nothing.  I see no evidence that your opinion is could possibly prove that people would not be able to run AoC with a computer that meets or exceeds recommended specs.

E)  My advice, if your computer meets or exceeds the recommended specs, is to buy the game and try it on your own computer.  It is only a few dollars and if you unsubscribed from another MMO for a month while trying this fun game it would be about 1/3 less in total cost.

F)  Conan runs great on systems worse than specs.  It also runs well on systems that are better than specs.  I trust that a software company will have done more research on exactly what systems would run a game than a few individuals in a non-controlled test.

AoC seems to be an incredably stabble, very bug free game (and it hasn't even gone gold yet).  If purchasing the Box for $50 and trying the game is such a burden to anyone's budget, they shouldn't be playing games anyhow.  Its fifty bucks, a few minutes worth of work, a few StarBucks coffees... sheesh.  It is money well spent.

The review from the OP has immensely helped me. I was thinking whether my system would run AOC well and after reading the original post I am sure it wouldn't run it.

Thanks a bunch. You saved me 50 bucks

This sucks. The first thing I do when a new game is about to launch is to get into the official forums and check the threads to see whether there are any issues with the game. The first set of threads surely give you a good idea about the quality of the game.

Originally posted by Die_Scream

PE are nuts if they think MMO gamers will forget this. SOE know how long MMO gamers can hold a grudge. STO will feel some of this stink I guarentee.

True that. I think they have done a pretty big mistake. Very very big. When they realize that, it will be too late.

Yes, you heard me.

I was waiting for Gods and Heroes and not for that pathetic Star Trek online.

Originally posted by FlaxenFairy

Hey,

Ok so RS isnt trhe best game in the world, but why criticise? Its free with a p2p option but nevertheless you can max out a f2p acc. Ok so the graphics suck, the community sucks and its full of autoers and macroers but nevertheless Free. Ok so i dont like Rs but im not gnna put it down. After years of plaing i realised it really does suck but i suppose its a good beginners MMO.

Hope This Helps

FlaxenFairy 2007

Ok, so you want definitions, here it is:

A massively multiplayer online game (MMOG) is a type of computer game that enables hundreds or thousands of players to simultaneously interact in a game world they are connected to via the Internet. This kind of game is played in an online, multiplayer-only persistent world.

As you can see the most important two things are:

1. simultaneously interact - Which Fury and GW fails at

2. persistent - of course both of them support this.

Therefore, by definition both GW and Fury are not MMOs.

Definitely doesn't sound like an MMO. Why would MMORPG review it?

Do they get paid by advertisements?

The graphics of runescape is so bad, it gave me nightmares the day I tried it.

Well seriously, people who play runescape have never played any other MMORPGs, otherwise they wouldn't play runescape.

Originally posted by Stellos

 

Originally posted by cdeepal

That would be a god send. I love SOE games :)

You gotta be kidding me.....I'm guessing your being sarcastic.

 

At this point I wouldn't care who signed DF, I just want to play it!

No sarcasm. I love Everquest 2. Look, it is the 2nd highest rated game in MMORPG.

That would be a god send. I love SOE games :)

100,000s of people tend to disagree with your summary. 

The only advice I can give you is this. Tibia is different. It is different than any other MMORPG you have played before. If you don't like change, then Tibia might not be the game for you.