well fe is almost a sandbox but not a full sandbox

.if its 25$ for it u should still get teh 30 days free with it also. if u dont like crafting dont think u will like fe right now mainly cause 99% of the items ingame are player made. mainly rightnow u do quests. later u choose a faction then their faction warfare. games only been out almost 3 months so if i was u  i would wait till they add more stuff that might interest u. but defeinly keep the game inmind to try later. look around on this forum there a reply witth some good points u might want to read that i made on fe

Originally posted by Lunchbox76

There is a big difference between instanced AoC and full blown open world. But that argument aside, I've have a ton of issues running AoC on my machine yet this game runs flawlessly barring the occasional server hickup. To be back on topic though, who cares what some reviewer at some magazine thinks, the reviewer showed there ignorance and lost all credibility in my book as soon as they compared it to a single player game.

i totally agree with u

Originally posted by Robsolf

Originally posted by sidfu

Originally posted by Scyris

I've played FE and I agree with the score, its a bland looking game, needs more color to be used insted of brown, brown and grey and oh look more brown!, that gets quite boring after a short time playing it, yes its unique in a way, but with the lack luster combat, bad controls and such, I can't blame them for giving it a 55%. I tried a trial and I kept lagging out every so much that I gave up. Not to mention all the bugs that should have been fixed in beta that still linger in the game probally still today. Either way the fact there is such lag issues a month after launch is just not acceptable at all not one bit.

 

so what u saying u gave the game a 1 hour try and u think u a expert on it. go crawl back to wow or something plz.

 

overall with how pc gamer rates the game i would give it a 80% of 100. it has alot of potentional and like any mmo it is evolving. on the pc gamer reveiw of it i automaticaly thru that out when they compared it to a normal nonmmo pc game. that makes the review in my eyes lose all crediablity of the game. it means they lost the point of what they where reveiwing. also u realy cant compare fe to any other mmo on market right now since there there no other one set in similar gener as it thats out right now.closest would be darkfail aka darkfall and everyone knows its not similar but in a small amount of ways so i didnt bother using any comparsions.

on a whole most will like fe. its not a full sandbox its more of a semi sandbox cause besides the main story arcs u do what u want u dont have to do anything u dont realy want.FE is a game u have to play a month to see if u like u cant play it just for a few hours and cry then go back to your casual mmo. its not a full niche mmo either its a game that is growing. i would say fe will probaly be like eve keep slowly growing but never be a big hit but would grow slowly keeping people more than most mmos do.

OP if i was u i would give FE a try u might like it. its a game u either like it or u hate it. ive listed most of the good and neg points so u should be able to make a good decesion. me im currently not playing atm cause im playing citiesxl

 

This is more of a reply to your poll, complaining about low budget MMO's being compared to big budget MMO's.

Simply put, if your small budget game costs the consumer the same amount of money as a big budget game, then it should be compared to those games. 

The box is 50 bucks.  the sub is $14.99.  Nuff said.

u didnt read the review very carefuly do u. they used a comparison to a nonmmo game as part of a reveiw anyone knows thats a no no so to speak. and using price to say it be compared is a null arguement. 99% of all games now days price is 49.99 no matter the publisher so could u get off your high horse and give a valid point instead of random garble plz. anyone knows u never compare a whole indy budget game to a big budget game like wow. u can compare points of play but never as a whole.

it just seems to me u read what u want and dont read enough to make a good enough decison. me i look at it this way when i buy a game. its 49.99 x 15$ a month (usd) times xxx number of hours. think i played about how much i play and that makes it a good price to pay makes it overall cheaper than watching tv if u get preium cable channels now days.

give some valid points to your arguemnt then maybe it can be considered but as a player of many diffent types of mmos and regular pc games without any real reasons i dont see any point in what u are saying.

and also dont forget that my whole post was to show the OP that the way PC mag reveiwed the game was wrong. its one of the reasons i stoped bying pc mag years ago.

Originally posted by Scyris

I've played FE and I agree with the score, its a bland looking game, needs more color to be used insted of brown, brown and grey and oh look more brown!, that gets quite boring after a short time playing it, yes its unique in a way, but with the lack luster combat, bad controls and such, I can't blame them for giving it a 55%. I tried a trial and I kept lagging out every so much that I gave up. Not to mention all the bugs that should have been fixed in beta that still linger in the game probally still today. Either way the fact there is such lag issues a month after launch is just not acceptable at all not one bit.

so what u saying u gave the game a 1 hour try and u think u a expert on it. go crawl back to wow or something plz.

i played FE as far back as the freinds and family beta. op i think u would like and hate the game thou.here ill give u some points about the game u may like some u may not like.

1. active combat. there no click and sleep like 99% the others on the market right now. its a + and a -. since they a idependent company that made their entire game engine their self. there are still bugs, memory leaks and lag. but every patch they fixing stuff and adding stuff to it. very few other mmos do something like that.

2.99% the items u use ingame are crafted. no real - anywhere here due to that since it a active battle system its very hard for there to be any bots and since its a independent company the farmers leave it alone.

3. very helpful community. its got ne of the best communitys ive seen in any game only one ive seen better is probaly ww2online but that one has some elitiest in it.

4. gms on more than any other game i ever played. not counting they very helpful also. in the freinds and family beta a gm met me and joined me on my ts server and helped me fix my cleint problems when i was crashing every 10 min. then in retail when my compete inventory disappared they helped me get it back within a hour. all other games i play u go to forums and post and pray in a week u get a response from gm. and wheni played wow for 2 months only 1 of 4 or so times i needed gm help was i ever helped so go figure on that.

5. graphics. u realy cant give them a neg on it. they made the game engine themself from scratch so u can expect problems.

6.economy the econmy in the game works good. even thou at launch the closed beta players had a edge due to knowing what sells good and what can be gotten from quests but works out good.

7. charcter customzation. there not much customization but there enough to make most people be able to get a charcter they enjoy to look at. over tim i belive they add more after the game gets smoothed out more.

8 charcter progression.  is very good with the exception of if u a crafter u can build your charcter any way u want. for example if 10 people pvp all 10 with have slightly diffent builds and some diffent skills.

9.combat. the cambat is 100% active combat similar to a fps so there is always gonna be problems. if u lag u miss your target but thats tree of any game with this type of combat. but overall i like the combat more than any other mmo.

10. pvp. im not a big fan of pvp so cant realy put anything onhere about it.

overall with how pc gamer rates the game i would give it a 80% of 100. it has alot of potentional and like any mmo it is evolving. on the pc gamer reveiw of it i automaticaly thru that out when they compared it to a normal nonmmo pc game. that makes the review in my eyes lose all crediablity of the game. it means they lost the point of what they where reveiwing. also u realy cant compare fe to any other mmo on market right now since there there no other one set in similar gener as it thats out right now.closest would be darkfail aka darkfall and everyone knows its not similar but in a small amount of ways so i didnt bother using any comparsions.

on a whole most will like fe. its not a full sandbox its more of a semi sandbox cause besides the main story arcs u do what u want u dont have to do anything u dont realy want.FE is a game u have to play a month to see if u like u cant play it just for a few hours and cry then go back to your casual mmo. its not a full niche mmo either its a game that is growing. i would say fe will probaly be like eve keep slowly growing but never be a big hit but would grow slowly keeping people more than most mmos do.

OP if i was u i would give FE a try u might like it. its a game u either like it or u hate it. ive listed most of the good and neg points so u should be able to make a good decesion. me im currently not playing atm cause im playing citiesxl

Originally posted by tryklon

Originally posted by Legsbiter

Originally posted by tryklon

Originally posted by Legsbiter

I agree somehow agree with the OP.

I was hoping for something a lot better than that... I mean c'mon... They made Mass Effect and it rocked. Graphics were good, the story was good, the world was huge, etc. What have they done with DAO?

The graphics were also... terribad. And the game had EA sign on the box.

 

^ PS3 version

 

 

ahhh   ps3 version

 

you know what? get a xbox 360 or the pc version and throw that garbage away =P

 

I had a 360 and with the experience I got with it, nahhhh.

I rarely mind graphic, but from Bioware... what the hell.

 

Believe me, ive played both versions side by side, 360 and ps3, and the ps3 version is way worse.

May be because the ps3 hardware is crap, dont know (they cant even put gran turismo 5 out in that thing).

Either way is easy, go to a store and ask to make the side by side comparison.

 

The PC version, the one i play, has excellent graphics, and doesnt demand a top computer. So, i really cant see how graphics in this game can be criticized. Dont blame Bioware for a consoles limitations

guess u dont know to much. pc,360 and the ps3 all 3  are not even close to each other when it comes to hardware. but by your comment u dont even have a guess at it.  to port the game to 3 diffent types of systems u gonna have some lose going over. from my understanding  makeing the games for them are  in this order of difficulty   pc( its the easiest since its been around a while) 360 been out a while and has already hit is max hardware ablity  and ps3 is the hardest for them to make games for right now due to it using alot of newer tech

Originally posted by Jinaex

This is an example of why companies shouldn't just use the cheapest and simplest solution to solve their problems.

At the end of the day, they want to retain their subscribers who are threatening to leave because of the spam/gold selling etc.

"How about we employ a few extra GM's to ban spamming accounts?"

"No, that would cost us money, and some accounts are hacked, so we would have to hire more people to give hacked accounts / items back to the stupid players that click on stupid links. We should just ban every proxy IP, this won't cost us anything"

"But what about the gamers that use these IP's to lower their pings?"

"F%ck em, they can play with higher pings, we already got their money, and because most wont be level cap when their 1st month runs out, they will renew their subscription because when your grinding, you dont really need to have good ping. In the interim lets just lie to them telling them that we will let them use it again once we solve the gold selling problem - which isn't going to happen. HAR HAR HAR"

So don't tell me the gold sellers are the problem, because that's like saying "Ah sorry dear lad, you are dying because you have cancer. We aren't going to do anything about it though, because it's the cancers fault. So blame cancer.... OH , WAIT! we can chop your arm off without anaesthesia, it won't cure your cancer, but at least you won't feel the pain the cancer is causing for a while"

 

for some reason i get the feeling this guy dont realy know what he talking about. this was a north american release so they have every right if they want to block a certian areas ip.and let me ask u this if u owned a company would u pay someoen 40k a year just to sit in a chair and ban people from a game. and dont say u will cause u wont. gold spaming is a probalem but if u play outside of the service area u have to expect something like this

they will probaly give it a day or 2 if it works then they keep it but if it doesnt they probaly reverse it but u never know. all u can do is wait and see if they dont reverese it dont know what u could do

will be very hard to find that there not many good f2p games out there.

yep guys works very good if u like strategy games worth doing this to get it sins of a solar empire is quite a good game

u must be fresh of the wow bandwagon on mmos. when in close4d beta they select people for it u just dont get in cause u applied.more games u have beta tested before better chance u have of getting in a closed beta

ok all u rmt idots this is what rmt in champions online is.

IT IS FOR COSTUME PARTS.

thats all its fore its to add some exclusive content for those willing to add a little extra money to company is all there nothign worng with having rmt for fluff items thats perfectly fine with me.if u want bad use of rmt go look at mobagoni. its a all around decent game but even thou its f2p its next to impossible to play good without paying forit.

so before u go crying about rmt in some instances rmt is good as in case of champions online.its realy no diffent than wow where u have to pay 20 dollars us for just a simple charcter transfer and such only difference is that u in champions get unique stuff that no one has but doesnt break the game and is in no way a mandatory thing u have to do. look at city of heroes also they have some rmt for costume packs/ with some ablites and they are popular but not needed at all to even play

Originally posted by Aguitha

Will devs ever learn.  North America isnt china.  Peoples are not interested in grinding.  If it takes them 24 hours of played time to level once, they'll just quit and go to another "game".  See the word "game", it means it's supposed to be fun, not a 2nd job.

ever game has some form of grind repat EVERY GAME EVEN SINGLE PLAYER GAMES DO to some extent so get off your  spoiled wow horse and just play the game.

if u gonna post screen shots ddont use face book use something u dont have to have a account with to veiw them

the named mobs that are way out of way have good chances of droping greens. ive even killed quest named mobs and got greens so they definetly worth it also exploring u can find quest guys that are out of the way u wouldnt normaly find.and also u could find a spot no one been to to get awsome ss of to post. also u got those chests last post talked about too havent checked wikii but never know ther emigh be some type of exploration title dont know im type dont use websites to find stuff unless im lost

to me most of his post just sounded like someone made hej didnt get somethinglike a beta invite or something

Originally posted by Chimps

You can't be serious about expecting Aion to be something new. This game is WoW clone with wings and amazing graphics.

I'm no WoW fan i hate WoW completely but in my opinion Aion is WoW clone with upgraded graphics and wings.

Why is it a WoW clone? Endless grinding, Point and Click gameplay like any asian mmos out there, repetitive quests and ofcourse quests will end at some lvl and you are forced to grind a lvl to get new quest.

I enjoyed the game only cause of the graphics and wing thing other than that it's useless but i got bored after 1 week.

So my tip for you is to move too Mortal Online a fps gameplay with unreal 3 engine graphics meaning new graphics to me the graphics in that game look almost realisitc and much better than Aion. Anyways if you dont like point and click games your only offer is and note that all these games use unreal engine which means no point and click gameplay but amazing graphics and use mouse to do primary attak secondary attack so its fast paced gameplay finally!

Wait for Mortal Online to come out which comes out 13th-14th july i dont know but pre-order opens 13th july and appairently anybody who pre-orders the game will get free beta access and the game is p2p but totally worth it.

Wait for blade & soul to come out and that game is going to be f2p but most likely not come to us in years.

Wait for tera online which will be p2p comes out in a few years.

Wait for C9 which will be f2p comes out in a few years

Wait for dragon nest which will be f2p comes out in a few years.

 

 

your whole info is wrong wow is a clone of eq and other mmo. aion was not trumphed as being a wow killer/inovatiave what makes it better than wow its not dumbed down. people need to break from there wow is the uber mmo just cause its got 11million people who dont like  a challenge syndrome and playsomething where u have to think alaas fallen earth. aion is good ill sub to it but mostly due to fact the game is just good basic fun. even in the closed beta very few bugs i ran into and most them was more of missing updates they haddent put in yet.

so for all those who say they hate aion cause its like wow then why u playing wow? hell why are u playing mmo in first place? ask yourself that and think also get some facts straight before u going posting stuff. and c9 will be a p2p game just for the reason the game engine and develeement costs are up on par with games like aion.

everything on the planet labled wow should be taken and sent into the sun to burn sincw wow has did much more damge to rep of mmos than any mmo i can think of

Originally posted by solareus

I was not going into this "closed" beta with any kind of hype or anything, but it was mediocre game with wings, and very dated graphic engines. I will not stand up in the NA market place very long. Lineage 2 already does everything Aion does, and really think Aoin is not up to par with games LotRO, Vanguard, Warhammer, EQ ect, it is a game that looks f2p, with the same same graphic executions as rapplez online.

The settings where full blast on my friends pc and it is was just mediocre, at best.

This game is aReleased title, pulling the same bullshit NcSoft over and over with these "closed NA" beta , the game is released, in Korea so anyone has the right to review it, they made no attempt to cater tio NA, we are just a sales figure.

sounds like someone dont know how to adjust video options very well. aion has nothing realy new but improves on old mmo things. the graphics are good but not high end enough to make people have to buy new comps to play it ie like aoc was.

overall aion will be a good game. it wont be nothing new but somteimes its better to just improve on old than try something stupid

haha this is one of the stupidest things ive seen since darkfall came out.

they one make aoc f2p and also it wont shutdown anytime soon. for u idot haters u just never bother to read patch notes or anything do u.   just cause  game is terrible at launch doesnt mean it wont get better.

Originally posted by denshing

Originally posted by Death1942

the sheer scale of what you can do.  Feel like trading ore from one station to the next for a little bit of cash?  go for it.  Feel like operation multi-million ISK trade routes through lowsec space?  go for it.  Feel like blowing the crap out of pirates or pillaging unwise players?  go for it.  Feel like feeding the huge industry used to churn out all those ships?  go for it.

 

I think there is enough content in EVE to please most people and is separate enough from each other (read: not have to grind out mobs to mine most of the time, and the fact that you can get by without firing a single shot) that people aren't forced into anything.

 

of course the reason why it's not mainstream is due to the sheer complexity of the game but even then, that appeals to some players.

 

I'd much rather have sex with 1 really hot women than 500 ugly tramps in 50 different countries. Especially if you where required to read a manual because the ladies where so complex it boggled the mind. Freedom isn't that wonderful.

just imo

dont bash on a game just cause it hurts u to think. eve is a great game but is not geared toward the instagratifcation wow generation its geared toward teh people who use their heads.