The conflicted abortion debate in the US is about policy and may look beyond activist self-identification of "pro-life" and "pro-choice" loaded marketing connotations.

There are concerns that Obamacare will force taxpayers to fund abortions (which to many pro-lifers would feel is like supporting genocide) and require hospitals (even Catholic ones) to perform abortions. The minority conservative pro-lifers object to this.

Last spring there was a Gallup poll that indicated the US is shifting to the right, where more are supporting pro-life.
Simplistically Abortion: Never, "under certain circumstances," Always. The majority of Americans reside in the middle category here--that abortion should be legal "under certain circumstances." 53 percent hold that view, and that has remained relatively constant according to Gallup's numbers.
Most of the shift has occurred among the two minority views, with a rise in "never" and a drop in "always" responses.

Back in the 2004 Bush (R-Tx)-Kerry (D-Mass) Presidential election there seemed to be a pro-life/choice correlation. States in which more than 50% of the population were pro-choice (about 30 states) 2/3s went to Kerry. States with +50% pro-life (9 states) and those with no clear majority (9 states) all went to Bush... pro-choicers supported Kerry, pro-lifers supported Bush.

In the US, abortion accounted for the termination of about 1/3 pregnancies yet (in 2005) approximately 86% of all US counties had no abortion provider.
Worldwide in 97 countries (39% of the world population) abortions are illegal.

1. are you aware there are only two places (Iran for persians and Iraq for arabs) where large amounts of Shi'a (partisans) can live in peace... because the other sub-group of Islam, the sunni (one who follows the traditions) being a political offshoot (at +85% moslem demographic) as to what "elected" man would lead-control the future of that "religion;" throughout the world sunni hold in contempt Shi'a (in many cases considered not worthy to live unless they accept the sunni positions.)

2. Most of what the US is doing in the middle east is acting as volunteer mercenaries for wahabe sunni... to suppress/put-down radical Shi'a. This when most of the bad things moslems are blamed for can be traced directly back to sunni.

3. to the OP, the hasan family, i noticed in tv the major's brother kept referring to him as "a great american." I must have a different definition of great american because no way would murdering 12 unarmed fellow soldiers, reloading about four times (over 100 shots fired) and attempting to murder THIRTY more last Thursday... that would NOT be part of a description for "a great american."

4. husan (On official Army papers he stated “no religious preference”) was actively recruited into the US Army; there are presently small numbers of moslems in the US military, less than 4,000, about the same number as there are jews. The Army values them for their language and cultural skills.

5. 2008 128, increasing in 2009 to 117 suicides (15 deaths still under investigation), and over 300K military personnel reported depression or PTSD.
"Voluntary" military, but personnel, including reservist (that are mandated they are SUPPOSED to only protect the US at home!) are being FORCED to redeploy 4 and +6 times to the middle east.
So far Fort Hood, Texas has had 75 military suicides. And the nut case moslem Army psycharist is murdering and trying to murder the people he is 'supposed' to be helping!

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In 1610, Galileo challenged the Aristotelian and Ptolemaic views of the universe as a canopy of crystalline spheres above the stationary Earth, showing that the Sun is the center of the solar system and the planets revolve around it.
The rcc remained stagnate in its beliefs; church dogma adopted in 1545 at the Council of Trent tightened the organization of religious institutions, condemned the reforms of Protestantism, dictated that the church's interpretation of the nt was final and individual interpretations by Christians were heretical, and reaffirmed practices such as the sale of indulgences to move deceased people out of purgatory, pilgrimages, veneration of saints and relics, and veneration of the Virgin Mary.

In 1619, Kepler established the planetary laws. In 1687, Newton published the Principia Mathematica, which revolutionized humankind's understanding of how the celestial bodies remained in orbit.
During that time, the rcc viciously persecuted and executed men and women in Europe if their beliefs ran afoul of the church's first-century belief system.

Fundamentalist churches are known for their intolerance, divisiveness, and anti-intellectualism. They remain adamant that the first-century texts described G and were the standards for spirituality, frozen in time. The church still recites the Nicene Creed from the fourth century CE as its statement of belief.
Maybe "Christians" would have a better understanding of the Gospel, if they studied the original teachings of Yeshua, rather than a Greek copy of His teachings.
Books of the new testament (nt) were originally penned in Aramaic (the Lingua Franca of the Persian Empire), and were later translated into Greek by first-century gentile Christians in the West; then the Aramaic originals were discarded.

Exodus 3:18 tells us that YHWH (third person singular form) is the G of the Hebrews

Acts 4:12 says, "Neither is their salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved."

The Seven Last statements of Christ:
The First Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing. lk 23:34
The Second I assure you, today you will be with me in Paradise. lk 23:43
The Third Dear woman, here is your son. john 19:26
The Fourth My God, my God, why have you abandoned me? mk 15:34
The Fifth I am thirsty. john 19:28
The Sixth It is finished. john 19:30
The Seventh Father, into your hands I commend my spirit. lk 24:46

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How to destroy both the moslem world and the "heretic and liberal" Western Civilization that sends out its accursed "missionaries,"

1. First cause a war to be declared by the West (US and Britain) against "terrorism" which has no end in sight. Thus causing 911 with the CIA and then blame Masonic Islamic Terrorist Network built by my CIA and Rockefeller financed and developed oil bonanza---Saudi Arabia. Mission accomplished.

2. Then restore the surplus flow of heroin by removing the suniTaliban (which was created through the CIA and Pakis.) Then move into Iraq to remove Saddam Hussein, allowing the US to capture one of his doubles. According to an Iraqi officer, Hussein loaded two tractor trailers of dollars and euros on to an American C-141, then drove his limo onto the plane after which it took off and disappeared into the skyline. Mission accomplished.

3. Begin the systematic destruction of as many moslems and mosques as possible using roving CIA teams inciting hatred on both sides. Cause outrages against the moslems of the south, using American GIs raping Iraqi women, photographing the crime and then posting it on the internet further citing moslem fury against the West; also spread disease via immunizations and radioactive toxins among the American GIs further weakening the American military in preparation for my Sino-Soviet-Moslem invasion of the West. Mission accomplished.

4. In preparation for my Sino-Soviet-Moslem invasion, use scalar weapons involving weather modification, causing hurricanes in American, devastating select cities thereby weakening the West's will to resist. And with deliberate non-intervention and other injustices perpetrated by federal, state and local agencies, further sow the seeds for race war between Whites and Blacks, while occupying the people with non-news (Jackson, Simpson, Bryant---Black on White crimes---and any other case [Scott Peterson, Stephanie Hollowood]) that could be used to occupy the attention of the viewers. More hurricanes are in the making and the South will be further "softened" for invasion from which Cuba, now occupied by the Chinese and hosted by Fidel Castro, will be the staging base---with the full cooperation of the CIA and American Military Intelligence. Mission being accomplished.

5. Knowing that the American people will be beginning to denounce the war and even concluding that 911 was an inside job (never believing that Director of Central Intelligence, Knight of Malta and CFR member George J. Tenet oversaw the crime,) I would remove Tenet blaming him for the "incompetence" demonstrated in preventing the "attack." This will save face for obedient Skull and Bones servant, pres George W. Bush, whose father and grandfather served the Order most wonderfully. This will also save Jesuit Georgetown-educated Tenet from future prosecution by controlling the Attorney General, the Justice Department and the FBI. Mission accomplished.

6. In order to justify a war in Yisrael for the destruction of the Jerusalem mosques, use Masonic Jewish anti-Torah Zionists to incite more hatred between Yisrael's Arabs and Jews, while depriving the Jews of their land given to them by G and the British Mandate at the end of WWI. This will be the "Roadmap to War" policy shoved down the throats by the CFR-controlled devotee to the Archbishop of New York City, and Pres BH Obama. Now war in Yisrael is a certainty. In order to blame the US for the destruction of the Jerusalem mosques build a huge American Army base in Yisrael from which the Americans could operate during the coming war in Yisrael, American troops moving in from Iraq. Meanwhile at the moment increase US troops in Iraq through a coming catastrophic event and thus a mandatory draft. Mission About to be Accomplished.

7. In order to increase US troops in Iraq, which troops will then invade Iran, Syria, Jordan and Saudi Arabia (as was told by an aged former Marine and suspected Jesuit Temporal Coadjutor), use the CIA controlled Military Intelligence to detonate five to ten dirty atomic bombs as the book Endrun (or Endgame written by two American Generals) so describes. This will strike at the very heart of the proud, profligate and fat Americans so as to incite the people to adopt a total war footing which CFR trustees will fully implement; blame Iran for the detonations justifying the invasion of that nation; or, blame North Korea thereby beginning the war in the East in killing millions of Chinese as China will be aiding North Korea. In preparation for an American defeat, move all American aircraft carriers out of the Pacific and into the Persian gulf. Dispatch "boomers," or American nuclear subs, into the Pacific since only a few of us know that there is no such thing as Airborne Nuclear War. Yes, the subs are disarmed of any potential nuclear threat. When this becomes known, he who as the largest and most disciplined army will have the upperhand. This of course will be the Chinese Communists commanded by Chinese Jesuits. Mission about to be accomplished.

8. With America fighting a two-front war which cannot be won, control the top military commanders in the field and in the intelligence services of BOTH SIDES through high-level Freemasonry and the Knights of Malta. This will insure America's defeat; any General that will not obey commands in the name of patriotism will be eliminated as was American General George Patton and Russian General Andri Vlasov during WWII. Ah, the Order accomplished so much then "for the greater glory of gods!"

9. After using China to sweep the Pacfic Rim of all "heretics and liberals" as was done during WWII with the Japanese Army, then attack Australia and New Zealand as those idiots have abandoned private gun ownership in the name of the goodness of man and the honesty of government! Those nations of white apostate Protestants are sitting ducks in the middle of the South Pacific with no relief possible from either British nor US fleets. The shedding of the blood of the heretic, whats not to love!

10. With the beloved Chinese navy coupled with the Japanese Navy sweep the Pacific, attack Hawaii and eliminate all but a few of the native Oriential Hawaiians. They hate Americans and will help the invading Chinese and Soviet navy. At the same time bring in hundreds of thousands of Chinese and Soviet troops through the underground tunnel linking Russia and Alaska. By the time mongol forces reach the Coast of California with LA in flames, attackers will be arriving in the North killing many heretic Canadian Protestants in British Columbia and Alberta. They will not touch Roman Catholic Quebec as she will be under the protection of the invading Roman Catholic European forces along with Roman Catholic New England.

The Jesuit Superior General's scenario will unfold along these lines. The next event will be a terrorist event involving preplaced dirty bombs in the US. Biologicals may also be used as the CIA has spent years in developing these toxins. The movie The Satan Bug produced over thirty years ago is somewhat of a forewarning to the event. A two-fromt war will ensue; armies will destroy the mosques of Mecca, Medina and Jerusalem with the secret aid of the Black Pope's Islamic Terrorist Network; troops will be betrayed and massacred as were three German armies by Hitler in the East; then will come the end with our invasion, partition and occupation for at least fifty to one hundred years if the Lord gezeus tarries.

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A year ago this weekend, the Dow Jones industrial average had just finished a slow-motion crash. Over eight days, it fell 2,400 points, or 22 percent, and stood at 8,451.

One year later, the Dow is at 9,865. It's up 51 percent from a 12-year low of 6,547 on March 9 - when some investors feared the financial world was coming to an end.

But the complete story of the Dow's journey since the economy soured goes back a little further. Two years ago this week, on Oct. 7, 2007, the Dow set its record high of 14,164.

What followed was a three-act play. For five months, from October 2007 through the collapse of investment bank Bear Stearns in mid-March 2008, the Dow fell 2,000 points in an orderly fashion as investors anticipated a garden-variety recession. From mid-March until Labor Day, the Dow rose and fell but was little changed. Right after Labor Day, Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, Lehman Brothers and AIG failed over 10 days. The credit markets froze, and investors panicked, fearing another Great Depression. There were rallies amid the downward spiral that ensued, but over six months - until the low on March 9 - the Dow fell 5,000 points.

So where do we stand today?
The seven-month rally since March has yet to wipe away all the losses, but few expected that the Dow would be edging back to 10,000 so soon. Unemployment is close to 10 percent, but other parts of the economy are stabilizing. Consumers are still hunkered down, but retail sales showed a slight gain in September. The panic of last fall has been replaced by the resignation that the worst is over but it might be years before the economy booms again.

- $11.2 trillion: Total losses in the stock market from the Dow's peak in October 2007 to the March 2009 bottom.

- $4.6 trillion: Total gains in the stock market since March 9.

- 6: The number of the 10 worst point drops in the 113-year history of the Dow that occurred in 2008. The 777-point drop on Sept. 29, 2008, ranks No. 1.

- 3: The number of the 10 worst percentage drops that occurred in 2008. The Sept. 29 decline of 9 percent is the third-biggest behind 22.6 percent on Oct. 19, 1987, and 10 percent on April 14, 2000.

Islam is not a religion it is a way of life;
Shi'a insisting on only the Qur'an (recitation... from the Angel Gabriel [Jibril] over 23 years) and Sunnah (the sayings and living habits of Muhammad) while the sunni include the fiqh (interpretive law, consensus [ijma] and analogy [qiyas]).

You are thoroughly confused if you think being "christian" means you are faithful to the ideology and teachings of Christ, your 'professed Messiah' (Yeshua); christian just means you presume the immutable nt (new testament) is scripture (i.e. redacted interpretive mistranslated fabrications).
The nt, a blended consensus, is a tool, a source for the legal framework within which the public and private aspects of life are regulated; necessary once lifestyles expanded beyond tribal communities.

Interesting docudrama Reflecting Pool 573MB, 106:43

jesus to Christ part 3 51 min
part 4 51min

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Originally posted by zymurgeist
Hey JC, JC you're alright by me
Sanna Hosanna
Hey Superstar!
 They don't speak Latin but putting the initials of the Christian Messiah with Roman soldiers isn't something they want to see on their boards. They didn't get it and even if they did they'd still editi it because of all the complaints they would get from those who didn't

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fyi
1. Messiah is a JEW construct (refers to a future King of Yisrael from the Davidic line, who will rule the people of united tribes of Yisrael {Megillah 17b-18a, Taanit 8b} and herald the Messianic Age {Sotah 9a} of global peace.) Though the italian romans and later coward romans (eastern empire) displaced into byzantine Constantinople there can be little argument for their ONGOING hatred for jews. The byzantines hyjacked the jew religion and to spite Marcion fabricated their own "cannon" nt (new testament) and to give it status abridged it to the older jew Old Testament "SCRIPTURE."

2. The roman-latin bastardization of the JEW Messiah's name (Yeshua haMashiach, in hebrew) was Iesu from the bastardized greek version Iesous Christos. The jesus variant is the english protestant ongoing fraudulent misrepresentation of the 'Savior's Name.'

3. His JEW mother (Maryam) nor his brothers and sisters never EVER called Him jesus!

4. JC is a mixture of the english name jesus and the greek title christ, it is NOT latin.

5. AND more importantly Yeshua's version of Judiasm was know as "The Way" whereas 'christanity' is the religion hyjacked from the jews using the byzantine fabricated greek nt as the basis for 'scripture;' this even though more than half the dogma in the nt is from saul (aka paul) who was NEITHER a Disciple of Yeshua (not one of the 12) NOR Prophet from G.
To misrepresent the junk from saul as "SCRIPTURE" and Authentic Teachings of Yeshua is evil through and through.

6. OP, a Praetor was an Army commander or an elected official; a Legatus was an emperor appointed senatorial to exercise command through; a Tribune 1 of 10 to convene legislature and introduce proposals; other titles: slave (servi), freedmen (liberti), freeborn (cives), patrician (patricii), plebeians (plebeius), proletari (no property citizens), peregrini (foreigner); military: Senator, Equestrian (mercantile knight), manipular heavy infantry (hastati, principes, triarii), auxilia (velites [light infantry] and equites [cavalry]) seven to twentyfive year service.

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constantine (274-337ad) emp 306, council nicea 325, council of rome 382 promulgated canon, formal canon 397 cathage, transformed catholic ch into imperial christanity (rcc);
that the legal imposition of a 'canon' or 'rule' upon scripture was a fourth - and fifth-century phenomenon enforced with the power of the Roman imperial government;
and that the political forces shaping the New Testament (nt) canon are much earlier than the second-century crisis occasioned by Marcion.

The following are the Imperial edicts launched against Manichæism: Diocletian (Alexandria, 31 March, 296) commands the Proconsul of Africa to persecute them, he speaks of them as a sordid and impure sect recently come from Persia, which he is determined to destroy root and branch (stirpitus amputari.)
Its leaders and propagators must be burnt, together with their books; the rank and file beheaded, people of note condemned to the mines, and their goods confiscated. This edict remained at least nominally in force underConstantine, and Constantius. Under Julian the Apostate, Manichæism seems to have been tolerated.
Valentinian I and Gratian, though tolerant of other sects, made exception of the Manichæans. Theodosius I, by an edict of 381, declared Manichæans to be without civil rights and incapable of testamentary disposition. In the following year he condemned them to death under the name of Encratites, Saccophores, and Hydroparastates.
Valentinian II confiscated their goods, annulled their wills, and sent them into exile. Honorius in 405 renewed the edicts of his predecessors, and fined all governors of cities or provinces who were remiss in carrying out his orders; he invalidated all their contracts, declared them outlaws and public criminals.
In 445 Valentinian III renewed the edicts of his predecessors; Anastasius condemned all Manichæans to death; Justin and Justinian decreed the death penalty, not only against Manichæans who remained obstinate in their heresy, but even against converts from Manichæism who remained in touch with their former co-religionists, or who did not at once denounce them to the magistrates.
Heavy penalties were likewise decreed against all State officials who did not denounce their colleagues, if infected with Manichæism, and against all those who retained Manichæan books. It was a war of extermination and was apparently successful, within the confines of the Byzantine Empire.

The rcc's nihilistic corrosive effects (eventually) destroy moral, religious, and metaphysical convictions and precipitated the greatest crisis in western history, their fabricated latin-only nt...
who's cherished beliefs and sacrosanct rituals/traditions are symptoms of a defective (Western) mythos.
saul's epistemological repudiations and imposed values were necessarily false when truth and reason are baseless facades in a transitory mortal hedonistic existance, where everything deserves to perish.

'THERE IS NO REASON TO SUPPRESS A VIEWPOINT UNLESS IT IS TRUE, because a false viewpoint can easily be combatted with facts and logic, while truth cannot be combatted except by lies which are vulnerable to refutation' John Bryant
Nazis never supported capitalism. In its simplest form (NSDP) it is simply about doing what is best for your people's gene pool. Secondarily, it is about doing what is best for the culture that supports that gene pool.

Arrogant banalization and absurdity triumph when the nt is the illusion, invented meaning, hopeful expectations, to make sense of the world; dismisses knowledge and self-reflection for more palatable relativistic "legitimized" claims;
ancestor veneration/relics; ameliorated scripture; people protect their god(s);
the nt is the main reservoir for the disease known as carrier-saul's unsanitary dictums/dogma spreading resistance to the paramount worship of G by mutilating the teachings of Messiah, a symptom of the acute chronic illness... failure to worship G !

"Then many will fall away, and they will betray one another and hate one another. And many false prophets will arise and lead many astray. And because of the increase of lawlessness, the love of many will grow cold. But the one who endures to the end will be saved. And this good news of the kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the world, as a testimony to all the nations; and then the end will come." Matthew 24:10-14 nrsv

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Originally posted by MarleVVLL
...We have over 6,000 manuscripts, the oldest being (either the dead sea scrolls or Sinaiticus) saying the exact same thing, all of which point to an original copy. Of course, the grammar structure is different and different translators used different words, but if you compare every version against every other one, the same meaning in nearly every verse is the exact same...

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Is this intentional deception?
One of the most important contributions of the Dead Sea Scrolls is the numerous Biblical (Old Testament, OT) manuscripts which have been discovered. Until those 1947 discoveries at Qumran, the oldest manuscripts of the Hebrew Scriptures were copies from the 9th and 10th centuries AD by a group of Jewish scribes called the Massoretes. Now we have manuscripts around a thousand years older than those. The amazing truth is that these manuscripts are almost identical! Here is a strong example of the tender care which the Jewish scribes down through the centuries took in an effort to accurately copy the sacred Scriptures. We can have confidence that our Old Testament Scriptures faithfully represent the words given to Moses, David and the prophets. ref
It is the JEWISH scriptures that somewhat maintain content after the elohist & Yahwist redactions of the 8th-6th century BC.

The greek/latin/english versions of the nt do not exhibit this same congruity (whole chapters and books are missing between them.)
Modern "christanity" is not based on these old jewish scriptures, it is founded on the dogma of saul (aka paul) with it's atonement and grace scam replacing actual explicit orthodox jewish LAW. In fact modern "christanity" does about everything it can to separate itself from judaism; continuing that age-old hatred for all things jewish.
It always amazes me when i tell people Christ was a Jew and see their disbelief! Much moreso that his name was Joshua (Yeshua) and not jesus!! They always respond that is NOT what it says in their nt nor what they were preached at in church.

You rely on these later anonymous nt "scriptures" (e.g all four records of the Gospel: Mat, mark, luke, John) because you remove G and Christ from the picture, relying instead on the dogma of saul and modern dictates of a corrupt clergy. Intentionally misrepresenting that dogma of saul as bona fide teachings of Christ... NEVER specifying that is what saul preached vs this is what Christ taught! you scam people ALL of it (i.e nt) is what Christ taught. You are not faithful to Christ and especially not obedient to the ONE that sent him.

That nt seems to omit that Christ and G STILL exist!! You have no desire whatsoever to get verification from the top, rather just parrot what man has written (talmud, nt, recitation) replacing the Law passed down from G; but then again since you are not a jew you do not really care about Torah nor the 10 Commandments and the other +600 rules in the OT since they are for Jews, not 'christains.' (just like saul preached, ignore all that OT stuff he has a new religion for you guys!)

And when it is pointed out you are not even using the correct Name for Christ ("in his name"!!), nor his actual Teachings, you just ignore that and thump your nt to back up your agenda that justifies persecution of the current undesirables.

Nice timeline brings into even sharper focus that apparent intention of the early Christians to remain Jews, in the fullest sense of that word, for decades after Yeshua's murder. The differences of opinion between James, called the Brother of Christ, and paul seem now to have been dominated by this specific dividing line. Paul wanted to include non-Jews, and to allow modifications to Jewish Laws to accommodate them (e.g. no circumcision required) while James and his followers still considered themselves Jews, intended for their sect to remain Jewish, and expected their members to all be Jews. One can predict, on the basis that paul's faction won through the catholic apostlic church, that Christian writings have also been purged of this earlier tradition. It also explains why the "Church in Jerusalem" seems to have died out without a whimper. James and Mary and most of the unknown members of that church were literally cut out of the history of Christianity by later church fathers who purged the Christian literature as surely as the Roman destruction of Jerusalem purged much of the Jewish literature.

fyi, the romans murdered over half of the world's Jewish population, hitler murdered less than one quarter.

the "10 Commandments" (Aseret ha-Dvrim) were intended for JEWS only, descendants of Avraham; those willing to worship G, ONLY; no worshiping Miriam (Christ's mother), no worshiping jesus, no worshiping "saints" deemed worthy of veneration by the 'church' (rcc).

The byzantine greeks hyjacked Christ's version ("the Way") of Judaism renaming it christianity by abridging their new testament (they conspired to fabricate with more than half it's content the dogma of saul [who btw saul was NEITHER a Disciple of Christ NOR a Prophet from G ! therefore saul's dogma is NOT scripture on par with Moshe nor other ACTUAL Prophets speaking for G]) to the jewish Old Testament (to give it validity); even renaming Yeshua (Joshua) the Christ into IesouS (greek) later Iesu (latin) later jesus (protestant).

Those byzantines modified many of those older "jewish" Commandments since there was open hatred for all things "jewish."

With the roman catholic version these "jewish" 10 Commandments were rewritten (Fathers of the Third Plenary Council of Baltimore [1886] prescribed for the United States) into:
* to keep the Sundays and Holy Days of obligation holy, by hearing Mass and resting from servile work;
* to keep the days of fasting and abstinence appointed by the church;
* to go to confession at least once a year;
* to receive the Blessed Sacrament at least once a year and that at Easter or thereabouts;
* to contribute to the support of our pastors;
* not to marry within a certain degree of kindred nor to solemnize marriage at the forbidden times...

from the 915ad useless and positively harmful precepts of the church:
*if anyone has not kept the fast of Lent, or of the ember-days, or of the rogations, or that which may have been appointed by the bishop for the staying of any plague;
*if there by any one who has not gone to Holy Communion three time in the year, that is at Easter, Pentecost and Christmas;
*if there by any one who has withheld tithes from god and His (the church designated) saints (read $ into the coffers of the church;)
*if there by anyone so perverse and so alienated from god as not to come to church at least on Sundays;
*if there be anyone who has not gone to confession once in the year, that is at the beginning of Lent, and has not done penance for his sins.

PS. The Sabbath is sundown friday to sundown saturday, NOT sunday; another example of how the west rewrote the Laws from G to distance themselves from the 'jews.'

pss. if you are interested, the ACTUAL Disciples of Christ sent missionaries to pursue saul in his ministry to the gohim (gentiles) correcting them that saul did not preach an accurate version of Christ's Teachings! this is documented in sauls 'epistles' to those gentile churches (can be found in the nt)

under "rabi law" one can NOT rape little girls ('hymen grows back') nor boys ('under age 9 they are not men and therefore not able to be "raped"')!

Also, under noahide laws (more rabi junk) any "christain" that proclaims Christ as G, is subject to execution by decapitation!

Of course if these babies were forced into catholic baptism, "their souls" would be "saved"!

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...who just won a disputed re-election...
You must have forgotten the US 2000 election, decided by our own black robed clergy!
California declined to count their absentee ballots; Florida Democrats rejected thousands of votes by U.S. service men and women; and Democrats nationwide garnered illegal votes from non-citizens and felons. If these situations had not occurred, Al Gore might not have the popular vote either.

Most Americans can correctly judge the motives of a candidate who declares "let every vote count", then pursues a selective process to add or fabricate votes in supportive Florida counties and disqualify legal votes in opposing counties.
Since the scam was allowed to work in the US, why do you object to it in Iran?
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from the 12 Danish Jyllands-Posten cartoons
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Ya Muhammad

Moslems visiting the grave of Muhammad (June 8, 632ce, Medina, Saudi Arabia) recite As-salatu as-salamu ‘alayka, Ya Rasulu l-Lah "Greetings and peace be upon you, O Messenger of God".

Green Dome Mosque

learn hebrew and read the Old Testament (TaNaKh) you will be amazed how much it was intentionally manipulated & changed into what is now the "english" OT.

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Originally posted by SgtFrog
iv actuall read the bible, quran (in arabic) and the torah (close translation given to me by some jewish dude :p)

they are all extremly intresting an ubelivebly close to each other. it amazes me sometimes that those three relegions hate each other when they are 95% the same.

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The three religions suffer enmity largely because their leaders have manipulated "scriptures" to reflect political views. Hence why it is important to try and access the original texts.

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terrantGod help me for responding to what seems like an obvious trolling.

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Exodus/Shemoth 31:18 the tablets of stone inscribed by the finger of God... so at least some "OT" was written since 1400BC.
The oldest copies of the OT we have are the 1947 Dead Sea Scrolls (First Century BCE copies) ps. early Hebrew consisted of 22 letters, all consonants.
Exodus 34:27 Write down these words, for in accordance with these words I have made a covenant with you and with Israel.

The greek nt (New Testament) was fabricated from mostly anonymous authors (i.e. ALL four records of the Gospel [Matthew, Mark, Luke, John] are anonymous, none authored by the person mentioned in their Title,) and intentionally misrepresents Yeshua the Christ's teachings with the dogma of saul (aka Paul, btw saul was Neither a Prophet from G NOR a Disciple of Christ... yet corpus paulinum [the foundation of the cartesian-eucledian rcc] is taught as "scripture" in christanity's nt)

Part of the reason i suggested one review "scripture" (!! the most important literature one can read in their lifetime, if , BIG if they intend to spend eternity with/near G!!) was so they have direct exposure to source material. Because that leads to the realization how over time those "scriptures" have been molested by man/ religious-political leaders to control mankind.

mohamud heard "voices" for 23 years and since he could not read nor write this Recitation (aka Quran) was passed down for those descendants of Ismael that had their birthright stolen by the jews.
Like the 950bce jew religion schismed into OT redaction sects (Jahwist [Judah] and Elohist [N Yisrael], both of which abandoned G and suffered enslavement punishment as a result.) Similarily the 700ce moslems schismed into two sects (Sheite and Suni) as did the 1500ce christains (catholic and protestant.)

Being able to evaluate how these groups manipulated "scripture" goes a long way to understanding the conflicts between and within these religions.

Mankind has a bad habit writing it's on "scripture" and passing it off as Devine Scripture.

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