In the meanwhile, I play something called Real Life.  From time to time I check stuff on the net or even load Civs or total war, but...eh...games are just there to fill a void, when you have no need for them, they will wait for later.  Anyway, these games are getting static, even if I would stop playing a few years, they could use that time to refresh themselves and make a new beauty (not that I necessarily plan on doing that). :P

Originally posted by Fyendiar

All this hatred towards people asking for good solo content in mmorpg's is amazing! However I think it comes down to this basic question: what is in your personal opinion "playing solo"?

Person 1: He plays the game like a singleplayer game, levels to max lvl, gets the best gear he can manage on his own and once he achieves that he rerolls a new character. He likes to disable all chatchannels and prefers to ignore the existance of other players the best he can.

Person 2: He generally plays the same as person 1 with the exeption that he likes to socialise with others while doing everything he can alone.

Person 3: He likes to be able to do whatever he wants, whenever he wants. This means he will be on his own most of the time since he refuses to "waste time" to get the groups required for certain feats. However he will join groups whenever he feels like it.

Person 4: He's a loner at heart, but loves the idea of being that loner in a living breathing world with many different types of people roaming the lands. He likes the surprises that those other players throw at him, knowing very well that no singleplayer game can create npc's that act like real people do.

Person 5: He's a hunter/gatherer/craftsman/trader, he goes into the wilderness on his own, not depending on any others to get the materials that his craft requires. He then does the work to create the objects other players desire and trades them in towns and cities around the world. He loves the social aspect of the trading and the idea of other players walking around using his creations.

I can make up many more variations of playing solo in an mmorpg, but I think that even only these 5 examples proof that not everyone that asks for more solo content or solo friendly mmo's is like person 1. Granted, person 1 would most likely be much more at home in games like Oblivion, Gothic 3, NVN2, The Witcher, etc. However... the other 4 examples are all of people that prefer to solo in a way that is only possible in mmo's and have no place in singleplayer games at all!

So please, think about the fact that most likely the vast majority of people that ask for solo content are not at all like person 1, think about this before flaming people and pushing them towards singleplayer games.

Having said all this I wonder if anyone knows what the best game is for person 5? I mean games that are either out now (and thus the current situation of the game) and what's known about upcomming releases. I'm looking for a fantasy style mmorpg that has person 5's playstyle as a viable option untill and beyond endgame. So basicly I'm looking for a solo-friendly caster-friendly mmorpg with a fantasy style.

And as a grouper, I want player 2, 3, 4 and 5 in the game.  I actually can't care less if player 1 is there or not, but I guess $15 a month for the company is a good thing.  I would appreciate if he use /hide features however, and player 1 is likely to be extremely happy to use it if he know it exist, so I would be happy to socialise with him even if only to show him how to /hide himself from other players, so no grouper see him in the LFG tools.  This little socialisation may corrupt him toward becoming a player 2 overtime, as if he as questions he will remember I help him in the past, then ask me, and if he is bored, he will want to try this grouping thing, even if only for my groups (then he will meet new peoples and join their group potentially later).   Grouping is addictive, there is no need to enforce it...actually, enforcing it hurt grouping itself.

Again, Solo and Group are both better if they have a relation which qualify as symbiotic, not parasitic.

Althought I do not agree to change the time referrence, this thread underline the MAJOR issue we have with the Muslim world.

See, these guys, they want 1 thing:  RESPECT.  Just like about everyone else.  Now their idea is presponderous since even if all Islamic countries would start using this new time, they would only be hurting themselves as the remaining of the world wouldn't have changed.

A small minority is abusing this lack of respect and fueling their power with it.  All their angry screaming at the prophet Mahommet when depicted negatively, it is more because of respect then anything else.  See, if I make a silly joke about Bush, the guy has no shortage of respect, and his position also command respect.  But these guys with a bear and a hat...well...they don't exactly command respect.

Maybe someone could think of something to make them proud.  A total lack of pride always lead to disaster.

PS: New York is the center of the World, everyone know that!  :P

- Hunting down purples recipies (can be done by killing ANY lieutnant level 51+, solo/group/raid)

- RSF/STF/LGTF, the hardest challenges of the game.  You can try to make it even harder with restriction, such as a 1 AT only for the SF/TF.  (specific badges + SHO for the first 2, but they are subpar compared to IOs or purples)

- Rikti Warship/Hamidon Raiding (specific badges + HO for the Hami, but they are subpar compared to IOs or purples).

- Badges, tons of them to acquire.

- Accolades, not that many of them and you will most likely have a few already, but they are: 10% hps, 5% hps/endurance, 5% hps, 10% endurance, Defensive/resist bonus for 60 seconds, offensive/recharge bonus for 60 seconds, Psi defense/resist for 60 seconds, freeze pistol, enhance status effects for 60 seconds.

- Costumes outfits, tons of them to acquire.  You also have 4 extra costumes slot to unlock.

- Unique and weird storylines, such as the Firebase Zulu, Time Travel or weirder.

- Epic characters, Kheldians or Crab/Widows.

- Another character.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9A-oxUMAy8

Many don't like this narrator, I personnally think he is awesome.  Anyway, National Geographic is definitely an interesting place to subscribe, also see the lion/buffalo there.

Originally posted by micona

Loot in city of heroes ?? am not even mentioning the invention system , what loot are you talking about ?

Most mmorpg's are built with group content even coh/cov , what you want to solo a riki invasion ?

only thing am trying to debate here is the fact that there a big diference between a single player game and a mmorpg game even though i know alot of players want to do the solo thing knowing there players around them .

Favorising a good soloing gameplay and a good grouping gameplay are symbiotic.

Not parasytic as you seems to believe.

Originally posted by micona

Best  " SOLO " mmorpg

Am sorry to be rude but please dont play a mmorpg if you wanna do the solo multiplayer thing just go play oblivion and games in that genre .

MMORPG were made to play with groups overall and acheive things with a guild or a corp , yes am aware you can solo in some of them like wow or eq2 .

but realise the best loot and gear is gotten by group content so dont waste peoples time here .

There is only 1 MMO which give the ALL THE BEST loot in group.

This is City of Heroes/Villains.  (Also give it solo)

You talk as if many MMOs favor grouping.  There is only 1 MMO which favor grouping, and this is City of Heroes/Villains.  Strangely enought, it also happens to be the only MMO which favor soloing.

I dunno.

It would most likely depend on a few factors:

1- Wife would have an opinion/idea; and definitely a veto on most stuff concerning kids until we have an agreement.  I would refrain from opposing her openly in front of the kids and "lies" to say we have an an agreement earlier if needed, no matter what my personnal idea is on such a topic.  Saying to kids that we both think the same is better than actually promoting a silly point.

2- No kid developp the same.

3- I would still need to be a gamer or the kid might not even want to do that, which under the circumstance of a wife + kids could be put on the side, indefinitely a little as Imperator.  (I won't stop been a gamer unless something more positive and time consuming happen...wife + kids is possibly qualifying as such, and if not totally, it would most likely divide the time available for gaming by many factors)

4- The kid himself/herself.

See, I would suggest a 10 year old to try a game or two.  But a 5 year old?  I dunno.  What if the kid join a group and they ridicule him because he is so dumb and dimwit from the perspective of a 22 guy living in a basement about l33t skill?  A 10 year old has to learn to deal with such and is in the right age for that...a 5 year old...I dunno...Imagine for 1 moment this 5 year old is the most gentle kid, extremely social, and actually manage to make it in a group, undetected...still a 5 year old on sensibility level most likely.

In City of Heroes/Villains you will get the best loot by soloing.

No other MMO offers that.  No debate.

Originally posted by Par-Salian

 

 

I grew up in Schenectady, NY - the site of a major massacre by the French and Indians, so I grew up with the correct answer: the French and Indians were on the same side, so the name of the war in a misnomer.

Most Amerindians where on the French side.  However a few of these Amerindians where on the Brits side.

Massacres and carnages have been done a LOT by these guys, who today have their descendants live in reserve which should belong to other natives.  See, Hurons where populating all the Lakes area...today they are merely 1 settlement left beside Quebec city (nobody would have been dumb enought to go do the carnage there, the Brits where hiding inside the Castle and the canons where turned toward the city for a LONG time).

Hurons are often depict very harshly...but honestly, they where the most peacefull nation around here.  They defend their lands and their live the best they could, from extremely aggresive and powerfull foes.  See, the British allows bloody murderers Indians to commit carnages (who care if an Indian kills another?).  Then you wonder why they return the favor?  If you would see you whole city, and 10 other cities razed to the ground and carnage by these other Indians which the brits protect...you would most likely return the favor if you could.

There is a freaking good reason why Montcalms turns his back and allow the Hurons something extremely harsh and dirty against the Brits.

It was VENGEANCE which drove these Hurons.  Your books don't tell you that; do they?  This lead to the extermination of all Hurons (the main Amerindian civilisation around here) short of a settlement just beside Quebec city.  The Frenchs where opportunists there, but I also think that this vengeance help a LOT to convince the French leaders to allow these actions to happen.

This settlement has a dark history as well.  The Frenchs willingly give disease to the original inhabitants.  Decimating them...as they try to help them and not understand (an European disease).  The Hurons living near Quebec city barely manage to flee from the Lakes area, away from "Indians killing Indians" and the non-caring Brits attitude...and they hide and settle here, where the French disease their fellow cousins.

You can say that the Frenchs where monsters if you want (not anymore than the British, but it fit both).  You can say that the Mohawks where monsters.  But Hurons where facing a genocide, and when facing a genocide the actions of a few minorities who lose all their elders/sages/wise man can't be considered as a general trait of the Hurons.

The Brits where able to TRADE with the Hurons for a VERY long time...and they didn't carnage or massacre the Brits, yet they could have, very easily.  They where peacefull and welcoming, seeing civilised peoples as us was a great relief for them, as they usually have very harsh things to do to survive with their neighbors.  Associating with the Mohawks was associating with nomadic and savage peoples, while the Hurons where sedentary and nice, farming.

The next time you watch the Last of the Mohican, just apply this emotional state to the Hurons instead...it would be a LOT more adequate.

As long as they don't spam me, nor harass me, nor KS me, nor affect me negatively, they would be welcome to join my group even if they want to sell the items they may wins.  (If they sell for in-game currency, I would expect them to give me the offer of any item interesting me, at the same price they will sell, rather than put it on the market...they will know if I want the item, of course sometimes they didn't figure out how much they want to ask, but figuring that out is a fair thing to do since I group them, and then offer me the SAME price)

I want nothing to do with the "purchase/selling" in RL money, but if they group with me and abide to a random roll on all loot or any other looting system, they are players like everyone else.  If a fellow player purchase from RMT I don't care.  If that fellow player is a noob and clueless, I would rather know he is a noob, but he will still be welcome to join my group as he learn to play his character.

I believe in "Bind on purchase", in "instance boss fights"(no KS possible here, and no weird feeling of a lock battle, be it only a room in a dungeon, where you appear on the other side of the door, in fact 2000 away on the Z axis).  I guess I am just trying to make fun in a game, and help every other players make fun as well.  RMT usually don't spam me much, they understand that's been on my ignore list mean far less options for them, yet a few are been donkeys, and I honestly wish that their competitors which I will gladly group will out-business these &*?%$.

In the sense of always going further back in history, someone could say Islam...then another could counter with Christianity...and another with the Roman Empire...the greeks...The Jews...Babylon...and eventually up to when Brown Monkey kick asses of other monkeys.  Then someone could pinpoint that life start in an aquatic realm...and that a mycochrondia is responsible for the most significant conflict in history when it eliminate 50% of the diversity of species. :P

Yay, all the way back to an single cellular organism.

1- "Endgames enforcement".  Raiding/RvR/PvP all lack.

2- see #1

3- see #2

4- see #3

5- In doubts, remove any Raiding/RvR/PvP component and the game could only be better.

Honestly, I play for what I see at level 1.  Not for what a geek in his mom's basement dream I should do in his game.  If what I see at level 1 doesn't please me, I won't stick around.  If you change it later on, I will quit.  As simple as that.  You can refine and improve it, make it more complex.  But you EXPAND rather than SWITCH.

Originally posted by kb4blu

Anofalye...

Please give me credit for a little bit of a brain.  I always have myself flagged as LFG.

As for the free dum comment Please grow up.

Thank you

 

Hehe, server rivalry is positive on every layer.  We have many spies and exiles with/from the freedom server. :)

And sorry if I offend you in anyway, it is not the intend.  I just write stuff you may or not do right, and that someone else, reading the forum could find usefull.  I didn't put it in heavy yellow for you, as I expect you would read my bla bla anyway, but for some casual stroller by which may have the same problematic as your title suggest.  The casual look out will see the big flashy yellow even if he doesn't read the remaining bla bla. :)

Originally posted by CaesarsGhost

 

Originally posted by Anofalye

  Beer drinking.

"If you're not working at least 60 hours a week, you must be working at EA." - IGDC 2007 Keynote Closing Remark

"If you do not agree with this guy, you must be working at Blizzard."  :P

  Beer drinking.

Freedom is extremely populated.

1- At high levels peoples may do less PUGs and more friends/SG only.

2- We call it "Free-dumb" on Liberty for a reason. :P

3- Players want a level 50 villains to try the epic thingy.

4- High level characters will use the LF tools rather than Broadcast channels.  Work on a LF message and make sure to turn it on.

5- Groups are more "thinked" and less "pick anyone at random".  Grouping duration is expected to be LONGER, this is 1 of the big reason why they don't pick Broadcast channels as it usually yield peoples with shorter focus and attention span.  If you want to group for an hour and then log, you will be shun by many players who want more steady players, who remains once they join.

Freedom is definitely the easiest server to be on to do PUGs.

Champions Online will be the most profitable MMO title in the near future.  (Investments vs profits)

WAR, AoC and Aion will be profitable, but I doubt they would be up to what they should have been.

Stargate World is promising, could be a sleeper hit.

This method of payment seem to have 1 huge flaw...what if the customer isn't willing to use his CC with you?

I mean, I am willing personnally to use my CC with NCsoft, or with any serious company which seem trustworthy, but some companies I wouldn't want to give them my CC no matter what.  Some other companies LOST my trust and I am no longer willing to use a CC with them (eh Sony).

Micro-payments without a CC...seem like the bonuses and interest someone might have for it are already negated as the customer would prolly need to pay for chunk cards in store or something.  If I need to pay for a chunk card, micro-payments would definitely be the worst possible system.

Anyway, I am more rethoric than practical here, as I state, I am definitely willing to use my CC with NC (well, I just cancel my Visa, so I guess I would need to get either a Mastercard or an AMEX hehehe, but that is different and personal hehehe)...especially that Exteel isn't for me (eh sorry), so I won't waste NC efforts here, but spam them with:  Less NCcoins and more City of games!  :P

PvP would never be the solution for someone as me.

I am a coop player.  I don't want to RvR, I don't want to PvP, I don't want to Raid.  I want to group.

I understand that my precious unlimited levels which I will always crave for is possibly not for everyone, but you either have to let's me go happy (maxed), or to give in more of what I want...more levels...always more...always more.  More than more.

You won't make me enjoy PvP, RvR or Raiding suddenly.  I play for GROUPING.  I want MORE grouping, not less.  Any try to replace grouping with something else will invariably fails and possibly remove 1 sold box.  Other players which joins because they enjoy the grouping, when the groupers are gone and they are alone, they find it boring, the game isn't anymore what it was, they rant about the old time.  They miss the groupers.

I understand some players think differently and have different goals/purpose, but if you shaft me for them, the end's result is that I won't be playing the game.  Even if initially the game offered all I want (levels & stuff).

Best groupers have to be groupers.  No compromises.  Make it unlimited levels, or make us reach the cap and cancel sub until next expansion, but don't force us in non-grouping gameplay.  Groupers want to group, not to RvR/PvP/Raid.  Everyone would find it funny to see Anofalye (Level 95323292323494) in the last zone, but it thousand instance version with stuff higher level...and they could propose me whatever they want, I could join them in the level 5 zone, or refuse them, but I would be there enjoying the game.  Outside of this instanced zone maybe the cap is harsh and I am no better than any level 50, or maybe I am better, I actually cares very little, as long as I can progress more in the unlimited levels zones and that I can reach the ultimate best with old zones so I can still find it fun to group there, could be or not a cap.