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Originally posted by Mkilbride

P2P games that are still P2P; regardless of success, are still turning a profit enough to not go F2P;

 

Rift(closing down over seas, had to fire 50 people and all the anit-f2p guys were the first to go. added a cash shop)
WoW(Obviously)(still huge churn rate and supplimental cash shop income)
FFXI(only SE game making money for the company, not an immaculate success objectively)
Dark Age of Camelot(maintenence mode for years and years already, dev team mostly gone)
Warhammer: Age of Reckoning(yeah, it's not F2P! Haha)(maintenence mode since like 7 months in, devs blowing in the wind company circling the drain)
Eve Online(niche, slow growth, extremely low expense, rules its own market. not AAA, and many players do not use the straight sub model for it anyway, they bot/trade their way to the game paying for itself)
FFXIV(lmfao. shut down, remade, sub suspended, going to flop again. it was subscription froo for98% of its lifetime you know)
Asherons Call(active development scope is nil, amking peanuts and nothing being put into content creation for the most part anymore)
Darkfall(lololol, might as well add mortal online to the list. this game represents a pipe dream that should die but a few hundred peopel can't let go of.)

hell, you forgot lineage. 16 years strong still played in high numbers, earns enough money to have its own place in a balance sheet quarterly and still RELEVANT. you can't even support your own argument.

Originally posted by Mkilbride
Originally posted by Valentina

Because his track record for long term success in subscription MMO's is so great, right?

 

F2P is not going to die in 3-5 years. I used to be a subscription purist, myself. Then I realized it's really not viable in today's economy & market, and the least appealing thing ever to the current generation of consumers. If anyhting, there will be an evolution somewhere down the line, but I think buy to play is the future of online gaming for a good long while.


Uh

 

His track record is great. Both DAOC & Warhammer are both still using a sub model, and appear to be making enough money to not be taken offline.

 

So I'd say yeah.

 

you left out that any type of game developement investment of any worth has ceased for both games ages ago. almost immediately for WAR. they're making literal peanuts on both games, while spending nothing but the light bill.

Originally posted by Dren_Utogi

I've paid more money to SOE alone using their item mall, and I've not used a subscription in over 3 years. Games are what make the , well the game, I doesn't matter if it is free to play or a subscription, if the game is crap, no one will pplay it.

 

Originally posted by gylnne
Originally posted by Nasa

Am I allowed to laugh if Camelot Unchained at some point turns into F2P?

Bioware for a long time almost denied that SWTOR would ever turn into F2P.

Yes and Bioware answers to it's share holders, CU answers to it's kickstarter backers.

correction, they answer to no one. such is the beauty in kickstarter(from the company/creator point of view).

Originally posted by Mkilbride

Tera is a pretty bad game overall, I had my fun with it, and made some money even.

 

However, Tera did do F2P Right.

you may have been disappointed but you're a little kid if you let it paint your world view that far. Guild Wars, and yes its sequel too are better than almost(gotta bold the almost) every P2P game that came out from the time GW was released.

 

there will be P2P releases this yea, they will have the same chance of being bad as always. same for the f2p ones. these games just have so little room for error but so much probability of error.

Originally posted by ckeeton999
Tera is a good example of f2p. 

which began as a quite shitty P2P game.

Originally posted by Vorthanion
I sure hope this buisiness model collapses.  I'm tired of the crappy quality games that have resulted from this movement.

are you also tired of all the crappy quality P2P MMO's that continue to release?

Mark sounds like TRION. look what happened 3-5 years after they said something similar.
Originally posted by Karteli

Some advancements are just garbage compared to their predecessors.

 

In your OS example, I found DOS far superior to Windows 3.1, which was ackward, very slow, and clunky.  OS changed some in 95, and by Windows 98, a pretty good OS was there that was responsive, clean, and organized.  So I actually embraced the transition from DOS to versions of current Windows that some use today.

 

Removing the trinity just makes for an awkward gameplay, while taking away a persons individual usefullness to a group.  If someone isn't important, then there is no need to participate in group content, which lends more to the casuals or socially challenged, who would rather play their single player MMORPG and have minimal direct communication.

 

so answer yes, and your momma duck was WoW, because the trinity was not in most MMORPG's until then. even EQ had more than 3 necessary roles in combat. most others had character variation and no set roles at all.

ah, the next on deaconx's hype->bash->drop list.
it's surprisingy bad for a low population game.
it's more than enough to build what is essentially a battleground and use graphics on par with asheron's call 2.
taking it seriously sure. too bad that they have less chance of being competitve on this front than AMD does in the high end cpu front.

FRAPS yourself doing catacombs lvl 35. lmfao.

why do people feel the need to get online and act like the're something they are not? FRAPS yourself killing bandit leader robari in brisbane wildlands(lvl 18 i think). i know a dude who use to say the game was this huge cakewalk causing him to quit, but all i remember from him in guild chat was crying for an hour at a time after failing a jumping puzzle or story mode dungeon.

it's a finisher.
Originally posted by Livnthedream
Originally posted by Rthuth434
ah my old server form burning crusade. 
 [mod edit]

Implying good ol Bleeding Hollow was ever good. All I have to say is Tich is not for you.

i bet it's currently much worse than it was 5 yars ago. tichondrius was always crap.

so a fuck ton of that list iss till accurate AND the shit is launching in two weeks? lmfao. if even 30% of the original list were still issues the game is not release worthy.
so 90% of that list is still valid. what are the DF defenders even trying to accomplish? if you take away 10% of the crap wrong with a game like DF, MO or TSW, it's still more than enough to warrant concern and no amount of sweet talking will smooth that shit over.

look how that quote turned out.

 

- game almost identical to WoW visually

- battleground structure the same

- dungeon setup the same

- raiding endgame focus

- pvp arena setup the same

 

oh but we added housing totally not WoW!

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