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Originally posted by Malickie

Not that I agree with Nazi moderation, SOE ruined official forums for me, so I really don't visit them any longer. The problem is everyone knows how FC handles their forums, you know if you post about an issue more than once it's going to get deleted, you're going to get warned or banned then you're going to come here to start a thread on it.

There's really nothing any of us can do about it, as was pointed out it's their house, if you come to mine and keep complaining you didn't like my roast beef, I'm going to remove you from my home it's as simple as that.

That doesn't mean that's how a business should handle paying customers, it just means we have no say in how they handle their guests.


 

So, do you normally charge people to eat uncooked roast beef on a filthy newspaper at your house? I bet you wouldn't have many friends after that...

That is what Funcom is doing with AoC. And surprisingly enough they don't have many friends...

The forum moderation is their choice, just like everything else they have done, it diminishes what could have been a completely adequate game

Originally posted by Calintz333

I actually dont prefer ether of those, I personally like Lots of characteter customization a very large world that rewards you for exploring it, and group oriented PVE content, PvP is not my cup of tea unless its something along the lines of 40vs40.


 

If you like large worlds, then AoC would not be a good game for you, it is not an explorer type game, it was designed (albeit poorly) for PVP combat and seiging 40vs40 thrown in as an afterthought.

Don't mind Transporter, he is just mad that he had to come to MMORPG to yell at us all, since after cancelling we don't post on the official AoC forums anymore, it is hard being an angry person when everyone in your forums are holding hands, praising the game and ignoring the glaring issues.

I would recommend LOTRO for good questing, City of Heroes/Villians for character customization and EQ2 for a large explorable world...

AoC isn't the only game in town, and even though it is the prettiest MMO I have ever seen, it still needs months of work before it can be considered "release ready".

Yes the AoC forum mods are hypocrites.

They threadjack and opine just like everyone else but without the worry of being banned or reprimanded for it...

This is what happens when the weasels are guarding the hen-house 

It took me 3 hours 27 minutes to download from Fileplanet , with a standard (free) account on Tuesday, the 27 minutes was how long I had to wait for the dl to start.

No corrupted files using IE downloader

Originally posted by dwillpower
Originally posted by AlienShirt

While it is an impressive feat this doesn't mean that WoW currently has 11 million subscribers.

 

And don't forget out of the 11 million, 1 million are Gold Farmers. 

 

 

The Gold Farmer thing is the biggest myth ever. 10 Percent of the players are not gold farmers.  I actually never see gold farmers...I think WoW killed that problem making gold easy to get/ farmers have gold piled up.

Next...How do you get it doesnt mean WoW has 11 million subscribers now, what you think it means. Did you read the post before you replied?


 

I just wonder how many of those 11 million are children and how many of those 11 million accounts are actually one person with multiple accounts.

I wouldn't be suprised if only 1 million adults play (some with multiple accounts) and the rest are underaged children, mainly due to the maturity lvl found in WoW. I would almost swear that Elmo's World has a more mature audience.

As far as the gold farmers, I report at least one in every major city I go to.

The problem is this:

MMOs used to be populated solely by the geeks and computer nerds, but since WoW has hit the scene, every retard with a computer thinks that they are "leet gamers", it is this "lowest common denominator" who the MMO companies are trying to woo right now so they can rake in the cash like Blizzard.  They don't care about creating unique games, or epic stories, they just want as many folks to play as they can lure in.

These companies don't give a damn about the real gamers anymore, we are in the minority, they know they can throw out garbage and the "wow kiddies" will eat it up and ask for more. while the people that actually enjoy complex gameplay and a unique experience are left by the wayside...

Originally posted by noggy1980
Originally posted by BearShammy
Originally posted by alakram

I played AoC on release and I closed my account like a lot of people. Anyway Im not stupid. I have 40 bucks spent on that game, what I want for it is to be developed and improved so in some time I can get bored of my actual game, lotro, and take some months of good gameplay there.

I dont understand why people act this way. OMG! they scamed me! I hate them! they are this and that and I wish all the bad things in the world for them. Oh! god there are more important things in the world that a game, is just and undeveloped game, they will close down or improve it, just that. I was scamed too but there is no need for such bads feelings.


 

Don't worry. They'll come back even, but only after everybody else went. These are the guys that can't enjoy something unless everybody else does. You'll see, they might even join now with patch 3.0. I read over in AoC that the patch was massive. There have been so many comments on the changes already.... And the best thing, I have not read about one bug yet. lol


 

If you havn't read about any bugs then you havn't really been looking at the forum. Forum is pretty mixed today really about half and half negative and postive, not that many strong posts either way though, nothing like the postive wave of optimism on patch 2.0 day.

If you want an example of a bug how about people getting murder points for killing lvl 60's apprienticed to 79's, the game is treating them as lvl 60 and giving massive murder points for anyone killing them. Bit of a game breaker bug really, going to be alot of murderers around from doing fair pvp.


 

I don't think the folks that claim to play and enjoy AOC that post in these forums bother to visit the AoC official forums anymore, They aren't here to have great conversations or to be part of the community at MMORPG. The only reason they are here is to market AoC and to spread unfounded information as absolute facts. If they realy liked AoC you would think that they would spend more time developing a good, strong community on the AoC forums rather than trying to convert everyone here to their point of view.

Check out the posting history on everyone, you will see the truth.

 

Originally posted by Clada

Yeah i'm loving this game.  Don't listen to what people say, try it for yourself.  So many fanboys will say they played it (check out Getalife posts) when they never have, and say it sucks. 

 


 

Thank you for this insightful piece of info, Clada.

This would be the basic logic exhibited by the kinds of folks that love AoC.

 

Originally posted by ScamMan

Thanks for the responses guys. What I read between the lines was AoC has good stuff going for them. Population have taken a big hit but are good on a selection on servers. There also seem to be some good content incoming besides patch 3.0. Like Dx10. I also read that LotRO might be a good alternative. I might wanna take a look on LotRO. Can I have some more feedback on LotRO population?

Meanwhile I just want to say WAR seem to be totally fcked now. WAR is out of top 10 list and number of Xfire players dropping with 1000 a week. There is seemingly no improvement to the trend either. Mythic dropped the ball on a so good thing here. I just don't understand it.

www.xfire.com/games/who/Warhammer_Online_Age_of_Reckoning/ 

 

WAR is very clearly a dying beast, so somebody will see my ass in a new MMO very soon.

PS:what da hell is DDO? Is it any good?


 

Any AoC fan will tell you that Xfire stats don't mean anything.

LOTRO has pretty good graphices, and requires a group to finish the Fellowship questlines.

I only got to play LOTRO for 3 days of my free trial (due to me having to leave town), but from the look and feel, it has "epic game" qualities, and it isn't a game where you can solo the whole thing (like AoC) . It doesn't have the same high end graphics that AoC has, but that means that when 20 people are in a small area, your framrate won't drop to 5-10 fps.

If you need a good game to play, you could do a lot worse than LOTRO

Originally posted by Transporter
Originally posted by Soupgoblin
Originally posted by Transporter

 

1. Jef says there is no PVP reward system in AoC. FALSE

PvP reward has been in AoC since patch 2.0 that came out 6 weeks ago!!


 

Could you please link to where he specificly states there is no PVP reward system...

I parsed through his whole review and couldn't find the specific information you seem to be upset about.

 

Thanks in advance, I know you wouldn't make that up


 

Everybody playing the game know how PvP armor is build into the reward system with PvP levels. Even suggesting that there is no reward system in place when there is a system very alike WAR's system in place since the last 6 weeks, is promotion of FALSE information.

"Funcom's take on the Howard mythos is equal parts attempted innovation and shameless pandering to gamer's baser instincts, and while it succeeds on some levels, and in fact has the makings of a solid title with several years of longevity ahead of it, its current incarnation is unfortunately handicapped by the general asshattery of its player base, in addition to a spoonful of questionable design decisions. Whether it was Funcom's intention to invite the dregs of online gamer society onto its servers or not, the bountiful boobs and the open PVP bereft of reason or consequence did just that, and the game's word of mouth has suffered mightily as a result (though, contrary to some of the more amusingly clueless stock-price quoting forum trolls, the game and the company are far from dire financial straights).

Timing of this review is also very funny. Ironically MMORPG will not only be off on the no reason statement tomorrow with patch 3.0 but also on the no consequence statement. This is just too weak MMORPG.

I also just realize Jef continues his parade of misinformation by saying that there are no voice overs after level 20 besides destiny quest. FC has steadily patched in voiceovers for many quests post Tortage level range 20-80.

From the voices of the game's many NPCs (which, sadly, give way to text-only interaction after level 20, with the exception of the destiny quest line)

 

If the reviewer want to say something bad about AoC, I am sure he can find something to spin that about, it's very unnecessary to misinform people to convey his unhappiness. Unprofessional.

So does that mean you won't answer my question? Because you did quote me, I was hoping you could actually answer the question. But fortunately you don't have to because Malicky did it for you.

PVP armor is the reward? Because I don't consider purchasing armor a reward. but that is one of the reasons I let my subscription run out last week.

And please stop whinning about the review, we get it, you don't like it so there is no need to make a new thread about it every day. I'm pretty sure that jedijef could care less about you personaly questioning his professionalism. And I know that the people that don't like AoC (the majority- at least 500,000 of them) could care less about how unhappy you are to hear someone say AoC is not a great game.

I was kind of hoping that a lot of the AoC fans would be so angry that they would leave and go post on the AoC forums for a change, it looks a bit sparse over there, but I guess without all the anti-AoC people it gets a bit boring, so you have to come here to find someone to rant & rave at. I would think that with all the AoC fans you guys could create a great community of like minded players in your own forums, but neanderthals don't seem to get along with one another, they always have to fight and argue and sling pooh at each other....

AOC, so easy a caveman can do it....

Originally posted by Malickie
Originally posted by Soupgoblin
Originally posted by Transporter

 

1. Jef says there is no PVP reward system in AoC. FALSE

PvP reward has been in AoC since patch 2.0 that came out 6 weeks ago!!


 

Could you please link to where he specificly states there is no PVP reward system...

I parsed through his whole review and couldn't find the specific information you seem to be upset about.

 

Thanks in advance, I know you wouldn't make that up

It's in his con list right by neanderthal player base, I'm not going to bother pasting it again.


 

Thanks Transporter!!!

Originally posted by Transporter

 

1. Jef says there is no PVP reward system in AoC. FALSE

PvP reward has been in AoC since patch 2.0 that came out 6 weeks ago!!


 

Could you please link to where he specificly states there is no PVP reward system...

I parsed through his whole review and couldn't find the specific information you seem to be upset about.

 

Thanks in advance, I know you wouldn't make that up


 

Just like I told Pezzbomb...

"Repeating yourself over and over does not make it come true."

No matter how many times you say the Easter Bunny is real, he doesn't become real... No matter what age you are...

Funcom would be absolutely foolish to start a free trial program, then everyone would be able to see "the man behind the curtain" (i.e. lack of content), the game has a pretty skin and amazing soundtrack, but it is just a shell, it's innards aren't complete

Funcom is desperate enough to get rid of a 16 year veteran and founder of the company. Funcom is desperate enough to send an army of rabid marketers to MMORPG to shill and lie for the company, Funcom is desperate enough that they have plans on merging servers, Funcom is desperate, but they just aren't capable.

And allowing a free trial right now would put the proverbial nail in Funcom's coffin. Then more people could see how unfinished and lacking in content AoC is. But there are the HC fans that don't mind raiding the same dungeon over and over or killing the same 20 people every day in the minigames, or hanging out at the Kesh entrance like a gang of street thugs looking to grief anyone dumb enough to walk through.

The MMORPG review has you guys pegged,

If you are tired of War, try out something better than AoC.

There are more than two games in the world, and AoC has so much wrong with it right now that no reasonable person would recommend it to another...

Try EVE, EQ2,  Vanguard, LOTRO, DDO...

Heck I would recommend the Free2Play Asian grinders before recommending AoC, and I hate the Asian grinders....

Of course  with the amount of marketers that AoC has on this site, it is almost like asking Funcom if you should pay them to play the game, but the choice is yours to make.

Originally posted by Malickie
Originally posted by Soupgoblin

Instead of attempting to school people on how to read (which they seem to be doing well enough) maybe you should stop acting like the review was a personal affront to you, who do not even play AoC.
 

The review was spot on about the community, this is proven by the reactions of every player posting in this thread, the accusations, the anger, the attempts to discredit jedijef by undermining his professionalism and his integrity.

But please, continue ranting and raving about how your feelings are hurt by a review of a game you don't play.

 This guy is speaking officially for this website, people who play AOC visit this website, it's very likely they are going to have some issue with being criticized by industry professionals.

This is basically the equivalent of the xbox mag, saying only yard apes play on xbox live. That may be funny for those who play playstation. However, those who play xbox are going to think twice before reading and trusting what that magazine has to say before spending their money on games it recommends. It could cause some to quit reading/posting here all together, which hurts no one but mmorpg.com.

This has nothing to do with how the game was scored, it has everything to do with the way you show respect to those who are visting your site.

As I said in my first post in this thread, I don't disagree with the game getting a 6-7( I'd go with a 7 personally, judged by the standards present in official reviews here), I take offence to being called a neanderthal however.

Take the forum war b.s. somewhere else, I'm sick and tired of arguing over ad hominem rehetoric.

 

 


 

You stated that you didn't read the full review, so your opinion really has no merit.

And how can you be so upset, anyway, you don't play AoC, it says in your sig that you currently play LOTRO, did he say anything negative about Ex-AoC players that quit to go play LOTRO? I didn't see anything about that in his review...

And as far as your xbox magazine versus MMORPG. How much money does it cost to sub to MMORPG? Now, how much money does it cost to sub to xbox magazine?  You also fail to mention that Microsoft owns both Xbox and Xbox magazine. MMORPG just owns MMORPG. Apples and oranges, dude...apples and oranges...

And I am not the one starting any forum war, you seem to be at the forefront of the "AoC reviewer lynch mob", I just think that all the hate that this fair review has garnered is uncalled for, and it also proves the reviewers statement.

 

Real game reviews seem to give the game a steady 6/10 (even though I would give it a 5/10).

I can't think a single honest person that would rate the game higher than a 7/10,  REH is probably spinning in his grave because of this game created on his IP. All the pre-release hype, the lies, the subterfuge, the continuing marketing attempts on all the major game forums...

Be honest Pezz...

No game is perfect, and with all the problems that AoC has had(regardless of your ignoring them) you giving the game a 10/10 is just dishonest and makes you look ignorant.

Be honest Pezz...

You have not hit the bad levels yet, 70-80 are poorly implemented, and the game world is too small, not enough High lvl areas, not enough high lvl dungeon,s this game is worth 2-3 months of play for the average gamer (more if you are a sociopathic ganker/griefer who plays just to interfere with lower levels trying to lvl up). Less if you cgharge head-first into your MMOs. Sure you can run the same raids over and over, but that is just lame.

Be honest Pezz...

Aoc is a decent game, it can be made better, but if the FC developers listen to people like you, the game will stagnate and die within 6-12 months because why do any additional content, or fix things if it is 10/10? There wouldn't be a reason if it is worthy of a "perfect score", they should stop all patches, discontinue work on expansions, lay off all the devs and just go with what they have.

I'm sure the game is fun to you now, but it doesn't deserve the rating you give it, even Craig Morrison himself has said the game has problems and needs work. No game on this planet deserves a 10/10, no game delivers that kind of content and fun, none, nada, zip, zilcho...

And you repeating yourself over and over will never make it true.

Originally posted by Mrbloodworth
Originally posted by Soupgoblin

I love it.

The fans are in this thread proving every last word of what the reviewer states, this is golden.

"How dare you say something negative about our game, how dare you think we have a horrible community, how dare you write a review that doesn't agree with everything we pretend the game is. You are biased, you are a carebear.... ME ANGRY!! ME MAD!! REVIEW BAAAAD!!!

You folks are priceless, and the worst of you are two people that have admitted over and over that they don't even play the game anymore, they want to argue so bad that they act offended just to try and start an argument... absolutely fabulous....

I'm sorry I didn't come back to this thread earlier, I'm laughing so hard I may crap my pants....

This article drove all the angry roaches straight out of the basement.

 

Try understand while you read, instead of using that time to form you next "I pawn" post.

Thanks.

 

Instead of attempting to school people on how to read (which they seem to be doing well enough) maybe you should stop acting like the review was a personal affront to you, who do not even play AoC.
 

The review was spot on about the community, this is proven by the reactions of every player posting in this thread, the accusations, the anger, the attempts to discredit jedijef by undermining his professionalism and his integrity.

But please, continue ranting and raving about how your feelings are hurt by a review of a game you don't play.

I love it.

The fans are in this thread proving every last word of what the reviewer states, this is golden.

"How dare you say something negative about our game, how dare you think we have a horrible community, how dare you write a review that doesn't agree with everything we pretend the game is. You are biased, you are a carebear.... ME ANGRY!! ME MAD!! REVIEW BAAAAD!!!

You folks are priceless, and the worst of you are two people that have admitted over and over that they don't even play the game anymore, they want to argue so bad that they act offended just to try and start an argument... absolutely fabulous....

I'm sorry I didn't come back to this thread earlier, I'm laughing so hard I may crap my pants....

This article drove all the angry roaches straight out of the basement.

Originally posted by Mrbloodworth

Nice review, but what is with the constant jabs at the player base? I mean, no disrespect, but it could be you, not them, that’s the problem. I mean, shall we start including opinions on the player base of all games in official MMORPG.com Reviews? They would just about all read the same way. Do the writers here know about this thing called the internet? Its almost a pointless thing to include, as every single person will have a different experience. 9 times out of 10, most people that say "This community sucks", walked in and started pissing on the drapes.

As far as PvP consequences go, the system is on the test server. I understand you can’t review what you have not played on live. But it’s on the way, and I hope for all those that are not playing, you amend or re-review the game when it goes live.

Why didn't john do this review, seems every review on this site now is done by someone else, makes it hard to gauge anything in the articles. Review from internet user #36579241 is about as useful as an official review as the 5 threads in the games forums by the same title.


 

To be brutaly honest, he was spot on about the AoC playerbase. Read the the tech forums, AoC players tend to go into "attack mode" when people ask honest questions about problems they are experiencing, I mentioned it several times in the AoC forums myself, The AoC community is infested with the "bully mentality". I believe that as long as AoC is around, other games will benefit from the fact that the worst of the worst are playing AoC, and not ganking/griefing in the others.

And anonymous reviews are just as meaningful as reviews done by anyone else. Just because you don't know him doesn't mean that he doesn't know what he is talking about.

Originally posted by Zayne3145
Originally posted by Blodpls

I got to hand it to Blizzard, that event sounds like a stroke of genius. 

Almost makes me want to resub.

 

You know you want to.

We need more brainsss ... ah ... I mean players.


 

No, you had it right the first time.

Anyone that enjoys that train wreck needs more brains

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