FYI I've never seen an MMO that didn't mention that on the back of the box...it's common practice because no MMO lasts forever (or are people still playing MUD today?)

Over the past several years, I've played several MMOs.  My very first one was SWG (back pre-NGE).  After SWG got ruined, I kinda wandered aimlessly until I started playing WoW.  A few months ago I quit WoW for good and have been in search of a game but there is one big thing that almost every MMO lacks:  endgame. 

I believe that endgame is absolutely essential for any MMO.  I hate leveling.  Some people say I shouldn't be playing MMOs if I don't like leveling...but think about it for just a sec.  I hated leveling in SWG but once I mastered Bioengineer, I spent all my time selling goods and fulfilling orders.  The endgame is what I lived for.  WoW was appealing because of its relatively fast leveling time.  Once I hit level cap, I was able to PvP and raid consistently.  I lived for endgame stuff.

Now after roaming through tons of MMOs -- anything I can find and all of them are all about an "exciting" leveling process.  Leveling just isn't fun.  I think the biggest problem with retention in players these days (other than terrible launches and bugs) is that there really isn't anything for people to do once they "beat" the game and hit level cap.

Anyways, I was just thinking about this and wondered if anyone else felt similarly.  Also, if anyone knows of a game that actually has a substantial endgame, post it here!  I look forward to seeing your thoughts.

So yesterday I ran into a bugged quest in WoW where the quest event wouldn't start.  I went ahead and petitioned a GM about it to see if they could reset the event.  After waiting 2 hours, a GM finally spoke to me and, as expected, asked if I was using any addons.  Because I'm a truthful person, I told him the addons I was using and told me to rename my addon and wtf folder...blah blah blah.  As I'm sure that wouldn't work, I described to him how the quest was bugged for everyone in my entire party and how a simple google search showed that this quest has a tendency to get bugged and require a GM reset.  Surprisingly enough, the GM broke from his scripted responses and started going on and on about how "Google is not Blizzard" and how Google couldn't possibly know how the game works or how to troubleshoot.  He said Google is great for finding stuff but if I want tech support then I should follow his instructions.  I respectfully told him to #%@* himself and made my way back to the quest giver WITH all my addons still enabled.  The quest was working now.  This just goes to show that Google provides better tech support than Blizzard can :P

Hey guys, for all of you who are a little curious about the new expansion I've started a beta blog.  The main reason I started it is because I remember when the BC beta came out, I always wanted to find out more yet it was hard to actually get any specific information unless you knew someone.  Anyhow, I got a blog going with tons of screenies.  Feel free to check it out or send me any questions.  The blog is located at http://www.wotlkbeta.info

Ok I'm trying to remember something...I tried this game about a year and a half ago and I remember I didn't like it...but don't remember why.  Then it occurred to me...is this the MMO I tried where the ONLY way to move is through "click to move" functionality rather than the "WSAD keys" eh?

Alright I think i'll reactivate my subscription today.  Thank you all for your advice!

EDIT: My ingame name is Koobla so hit me up if ya see me!

I've had a long history with eve.  i did 3 trials before finally buying the game...and then stopped after the free month.  why?  i really hated running npc missions cuz they were just simple warp in, destroy, and leave missions every time.  i tried mining but it was really really boring.  i finally tried science/research and that was kinda fun...except i couldn't do much.  I am at a loss of what MMO to play.  I'm sick of fantasy MMOs and so my choices are quite limited.  I wanna come back to Eve but I'm discouraged by one thing...I don't know what to do.  Like I can't do pvp because i only have like 1.5 million sp, no one needs recipes for projectile ammo (lol), and mining is a better sleep aid than an activity.  Can anyone help guide me on how to actually get going in the game?  I've done the tutorial and I know what the game is capable of but I just don't know where to start given that 90% of people have more sp and experience playing than me!  All help here is greatly appreciated cuz right now I'm bored out of my mind with no game to play!

I'm having a really hard time with MMOs these days (as are many others lol).  When looking for an MMO, here are these things I try to find:

-GOOD COMMUNITY = I can't say it enough.  An MMO is no fun if there are very few people or if you're stuck in an instanced world (*cough* guild wars).

-Solo play viable = I don't like being forced to group.  If I only got 2 hours to play, I don't wanna spend half of that trying to find a group for an instance I won't be able to finish.

-Large world = Finally, I don't want a game that has a small world.  I don't care about the grind as long as I got a huge world to grind stuff in.

In my MMO history, I've mainly played SWG, WoW, and Planetside (all for about 2 years each).  I've also tried games like Guild Wars, EVE, CoH, Lineage 1 and 2, FFXI, RF Online, and AO and I didn't like any of those.  Currently I started playing EQ2 and I love it...except there's some performance issues that render the game too choppy to play at some points.  I've done a lot of research and spent hours pouring over reviews and talking to people and I've narrowed it down to 2 games:  Vanguard or Tabula Rasa.  Which of those 2 games do you think I'd prefer most or which one do you consider to be better?  All help on this decision is greatly appreciated.  Also if you got any trial/buddy keys for either of those games, I'd love to get a firsthand look at each game before I buy it.  Thanks!

K so i just quit WoW and went to go play Everquest 2.  I told my friend and he laughed and said Everquest is for 10 year olds.  I told him he's wrong.  But he might not believe me....your response: