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Originally posted by Sneakers05

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Originally posted by Thillian

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Originally posted by Sneakers05

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Originally posted by Thillian

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Originally posted by Sneakers05

I have to go with Vanguard, it was supposed to be the WoW killer I know that term is used a lot but thats what we all thought it  was, we thought it would return us to the glory days of EQ. Exploration, fun, grouping, etc. it was supposed to be THE pve game.I think it turned out to be the biggest flop in mmo history.

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NONSENSE. THe proof is the amount of sold boxes right at release. WOW killer was supposed to be WAR and AoC.
Vanguard had 120k sold boxes first month.
AoC had 750k first days
WAR had 550k first days.
There was no marketing of Vanguard that it should be a wow-killer, there were no adds, it was just you people who jump to every bandwagon that's going on.

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Um no we thought it was a WoW killer from the description and leaks and the developers blogs etc, not how many boxes it sold.

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Show me the description, a description on a box? Someone said it in the interview? If so show me the link, do something. VG WAS never supposed to be a wow-killer. They were glad they managed to release the game and not close the whole studio after microsoft cut the funding.
 

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VG was supposed to be the WoW killer. The game was the most hyped game ever on mmorpg.com. It was the game that was supposed to bring back the good ol EQ days.You obviously were not around then.

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Never, ever have I heard VG being called a WoW killer, maybe in your own mind.

It's a terrible idea and model mainly because you have to stick to a level system how would you do it if it was skill based? You can't. What about alts? You want to pay for them too? Is $10-15 per month really that much? Christ you spend that, if not more at a movie theater in a night.

Oh shit I got level 20 let me charge it to my card! How dumb is that. Hang on guys I gotta charge it before I ding!

Not many will like this model it gives not freedom. You going to charge people to craft items to? How about an in-game tax on item selling, awesome!

It's shit like this that has made me avoid mmorpg.com forums for a long time, is it just me or has sensible discussions gone out the fuckin window?

One of the main things that Asus would tell you right away if you got a hold of them is that OCZ is not a supported memory company. They will tell you to pick up Corsair. I've never had problems with OCZ on Asus until I ran into Crossfire boards then it is a whole different story.

While it is possible the mobo doesn't like the memory it isn't likely it's just something tech support would tell you right away to cover their ass.

At any point an Asus monitor probably was one of your ill purchases on your part. It's just not quality for what you can out of it. If you need both pins plugged into the monitor that is just unheard of and defiantly your problem. Most mobo's can only read one setting at a time even if it says it can distinguish between the two of them they normally can't.

Perhaps also dropping to DDR3 1333 may make your life easier as well as everything else on your mobo is supported upward with O.C. just a thought.

It's hard to really tell what is going on without being their first hand to diagnose it. It could be any number of issues from plugs not being in correctly to unsupported devices/brands. It helps when you have a knowledge on what you are building so you know when things go sour why it is happening and steps to fix it.

It doesn't take a genius to put a PC together but it takes someone with a PC background to make it work when it want's to cause you hell. So if you lack the background I'd take it to a friend or a shop that knows a thing or two about the internals.

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Originally posted by qweniden

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Originally posted by Magnum2103

I agree with all your points except #2.  Just because it's that way now, doesn't mean it has to be that way.  While there is no good solution right now for stopping the repetition who knows what can happen in 5 or 10 years down the line.  If we aren't vocal about hating grinding then developers that listen to community feedback are going to keep putting in those massive grinds.
 
I hope in the future content is dynamic and player driven.

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My point isnt "we have this problem and it isnt going to change".  Rather my point is that if you enjoy the activity it isnt grinding.  One could argue that playing chess is "grinding" if they didnt like it.

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How exactly do you "grind" chess. Chess is a game with one common goal an MMO is a game with many common goals. Many being the factor that grind can exist. Was a poor example.

Rule #13) Do not grab the dictionary to look for the biggest words to try and make you look more intelligent because you probably already failed.

The "rules" you dreamed up have many flaws because later down the road the game could completely change. A good example: I used to love SWG now I hate it. Why? Cause the game completely changed.

Don't mix reality into games, you think I like putting my money into a bank. Or watch interest rates, no it sucks but it's part of our society.

Putting a real life system in a game not only kills the fun just annoys the hell out of people. It's not done because devs know it's a buzz kill. Games are suppose to be our alternate reality not our 2nd reality within our 1st reality.

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Originally posted by Cerion

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Originally posted by Hashbrick

Basically at 60 you pay $15 a month to login and sit in the 21st hall until you logout. It's the cool thing to do after you got all your radiance gear and run the watcher every once in a while.
There is a complete lack of content but from what I am hearing from Book 8 things should change and give us more to do, too bad that's in June though...

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And when people finish Book 8 in a week, they'll be back on forums like these complaining that they have nothing to do. lol.
 
One of these days players will realize that MMO companies cannot pump out content fast enough to appease the masses.  After two years of playing LOTRO, I might...MIGHT...hit 60lvl on my Main character this weekend. But that leaves me with: Collecting more Rad Gear; gaining Kindred faction with Lothlorien, Rivendell, and a few other factions that I care about; upgrading my 3rd age Legendary to a 2nd or perhaps even 1st age; numerous traits that aren't maxed yet; gathering barter items for nifty faction items I want; helping my kinmates do all of the above; RPing with my kinmates; oh, and then maybe I'll try leveling an alt or two and do the whole thing over again.
In all honesty, I feel as though I'm having trouble keeping up with content as is!

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Well once you have 3 alts at 60 another in progress and done RAD runs up to your ears then you'd feel my pain, but I envy you for taking the content so slow at least you have something to experience.

What they have plan sounds great and even the level cap is fine with me as with level cap increases comes brand new areas to explore and tons of quests to experience. Just atm the end game is a dead end that you keep bashing your head into a wall over and over again until something pops. Hopefully skirmishes will change that.

Basically at 60 you pay $15 a month to login and sit in the 21st hall until you logout. It's the cool thing to do after you got all your radiance gear and run the watcher every once in a while.

There is a complete lack of content but from what I am hearing from Book 8 things should change and give us more to do, too bad that's in June though...

SWG was an innovation of our time that many will remember and still have hurt feelings. It wasn't the first to develop a no-level skill sandbox MMO by any means but it was the one with the biggest impact. However with all my memories and fun times, it is just that memories and fun times.

I trust Bioware to bring an innovation in story telling like no other studio produced before. I understand it won't be a true sandbox and that is alright. The point is you need to let go and let Bioware do what they do best, story telling.

Just you

Those videos were ill-informed and a scripted mess. Only thing you got going for you is the effects, I'd drop the angry bullshit.

The day skill becomes running around jumping shooting arrows and swinging swords in circles while preforming river stomp is the day the pigs fly. Could you imagine an all out world war with nothing but the enemies and allies jumping and dancing around shooting their guns and screaming pew pew. For christ sakes...

I think it brings realism and awesomeness combined. So to this day let MO be known as Relsome with a side of muffin or pudding which ever you prefer.

"Meaningful PVP"

I'm not sure what is so meaningful about killing a guy damn near bare ass for the fear he will loose his gear.

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Originally posted by Sarr

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Originally posted by Papadam

Best mmorpg company vs best single player rpg company?
Hard choice!
One is owned by EA and the other is an independant company... I want Turbine to win just because so many people on this forum will be so pissed of :) (like last year when Turbine won this)

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Bioware is owned by EA??

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Yep EA acquired it a long while ago.

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Sorry but the Promo Downloads are currently down. Feel free to visit our shop and purchase an official copy

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When your offered a free trial and this is the message you get when you enter the promo code. One wonders what the hell the free trial offer is even up for and it seems an advertising poly rather than the real deal.

I don't understand how the game is still up, I can play if I buy a copy, but I can't try it first. That type of logic is just pathetic.

I blame society for this post.

First of all I want to say you made a brave move coming into these forums to defend your company's MMO. You will get wanted attention but mostly unwanted attention it happens with every new MMO be it indie or otherwise. I understand you are going word of mouth because advertising is expensive and I'm not saying you are taking the wrong steps but spending your time here instead of over on your own turf is a mistake. People base opinions on other comments be it good or bad. However you answered and responded very professionally up to a point, once one user came here say something negative about the game I got a glimpse of the unprofessional yodablaze.

As an indie gamer and application/web programmer myself I commend you on your achieve of launching your first 3d MMO it is defiantly something to be excited about.

However the more and more I read about the game it turned me off when I realized the money digging is already starting. I understand you need money to keep up development and there in lies the problem with current payment model. As other people stated it would be way better as subscription base, even just $5 a month for a decent indie title, gamers will be willing to pay that to support the MMO. My main problem with your current model is one time payment, you can't grow with that income there is no way in hell. You are hoping to god people will buy the cash shop items. The community features really had me shocked:

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Originally posted by yodablaze

We will be giving a free 1 year membership to all paid members to enjoy all the community features on our community site very soon. What this would include is private messaging, chat room, ability to make guilds and join guilds on the site, invite members as buddies, make blogs and invite buddies to view your blog, upload in game videos and more. We want to build a happy community and encourage players to make friends and keep in touch. We will add this offer soon so stay tuned.

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So charge people for how the world wide web operates freely; youtube, flickr, twitter, facebook, myspace, msn, yahoo, skype and every other video sharing, image sharing, chat shoutting, community feature site does 100% ABSOLUTELY FREE! It's insane, an MMO is not a content site where you can freely run advertisements to rake in extra income, but you can not pull this off with this payment model.

I beg you to rethink this payment model. You say most of the members enjoy and like how things are but really how long can you run a business under this model? Not very long. If you only have a handful of dedicated members, I'm sure your members would appreciate it more if they can count on continued development on the game rather than seeing it shut down shortly.

I hope you don't take this as offensive and take it as constructed criticism.

Also as said many of times get that trial out there ASAP this will be your main selling point be it any payment model. In this day and age in a world where the economy is still recovering from a lot of the major players, people are less willing to just chuck money your way and hope for the best.

However if they try it and like you got an instant sale.

Think on that yoda, cheers.

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Originally posted by Swiftblade13
LOL you guys... I'm sure this is an april fools thread.....   I dont play LOTRO but from what I hear MoM was a HUGE success and I think book 7 introduced many fixes.. not more bugs..  and the poster is brand new... an alt.
 
Did you guys think this was serious?

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Since MoM well really after book 12 in the original game the quality of the programming and support has gone down hill. There are exploits all over and some yet do exist, the anti-exploit system has fucked up in a big way. Nothing is more annoying then a mob stuck and you can't get the thing to respond and you all have to force log out. This is everywhere in any instance not just Moria, they screwed something up.

They made a new raid had to bring it down shortly after just releasing it because of the amount of problems with it. Now today they opened up an april fools quests had to bring it down cause of server load and now they can't even get the servers back up and functioning correctly.

Turbine used to be quality but now they are taking a shit dive straight to satan's asshole. Each book just brings more and more problems and less and less quality. It is apparent to me that the original team got shipped on a different title or next expansion for lotro within the company and a new team is taking dev on the updates and doesn't know the code all to well and now we get dog shit instead of supreme lobster.

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Originally posted by Narishma
April Fools obviously.

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You catch on fast.