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I love aion.
General Discussion « Aion
10/01/09 11:42:32 PM

There's a huge problem with not enough mobs once you hit 20+ and go on to the pvp maps. Constantly fighting your own race over mobs, I mean it literally took a friend and I 45miins to finish a kill 12 mob quest cause everyone and their mom was grabbing them as fast as they could and if you got 1 in 5mins time it was considered lucky.

Of course this will die down with time, but the mob spawns should be way more populated. 200+ people in a little circle doesn't go well.

So that pretty much ruined my progress for Aion I have no intention of logging in anytime soon.

It's tank, heal, burn, wth requires thought about that. This has been the MMO formula for generations, welcome to MMOs. I play Aion regularly I have a lot of fun with it but never once have I ever had to stop and say "hey guys this guy is tank type we have to do this differently." Never it is the same formula all the time, now when you get end-game content and you start facing end game gear dropping bosses well then you have more resistance or a strategy needed to beat that particular boss. That my friend, has also been in MMO for generations.

So no Aion does not require more thought than any other tank, heal, burn MMO. To think otherwise is a clearly a fanboy approach. It looks pretty, it plays well, but it is no different.

They are too busy swindling money out of investors to actually bother with the game.


Originally posted by Zeblade
yeah.. why do you post this crap OP? nothing but lies..
From launch to now.. the most I had to wait was 2min.. .. just tested .. got right in.. so..
8hour que.. HAHA.. dude its your internet.. I would really be checking my settings..
What makes me wonder is .. at times is shows 1200/.. yet I get right in with in seconds.. ..
So something is REALLY messed up with the que numbers.. .. making us think there are thousands waiting yet.. everyone I know gets right in too.. hmmm
 
 

I'm amazed at the community that has absolutely no fuckin clue what is going on. Try to log on Zikel, ya it's fuckin after hours, people are sleeping to work in the morning I'll be doing the same in a couple mins and yet the fuckin queues on that server are still 2hrs long. Just because you aren't having the problem doesn't mean other servers are not. Is it my fault the guild I joined is on a highly populated server? No it's NCsofts for not stopping people to pre-select on a server already full of people.

I give up, you people will never understand because you are so think headed. Anyone that said today, well go do something else, read a book, play tomorrow etc. Why the hell should I when I paid to play today, it's not my fault. They provided a service I can't use cause my server has a huge queue. Have I gotten in today? Sure after a 5hr queue that initial said 8hrs, only to get in for 15mins, booted out and thrown in another queue. If that isn't bullshit I don't know what is.

This isn't normal, this isn't standard stop sticking up for a company that just screwed an ass load of customers and they know they did.


Originally posted by madeux

Originally posted by Keeper2000

Originally posted by madeux

Originally posted by Keeper2000

Originally posted by madeux

Originally posted by Keeper2000  

 
But there are servers, right now, with no queue at all.... How is that NCSofts fault if everyone refuses to go to a less populated server?



 
What exactly would you like NCsoft to do?  Magically create servers that can handle unlimited amounts of simultanious connections? 
There are open servers out there.  Aside from that, there's not a damn thing the company can do.
Some people are just determined to be upset, and they'll use whatever justification they have to.


Are you accepting then there is a problem? And that long queues are a problem?
If you do, that is the first step to find a solution. I dont get paid to fix the problem in question.  Denial the problem wont help.
Now the problem... I had checked several servers and ALL had queues... the lowest was 600 aprox. people queued. So if we will all discuss how to "fix" queues on MMO release, lets try to keep it factual and dont lie. You said there are servers with no queues... then in another thread you said there was one with half hour... decide.
Imho, right now there are servers with low queue but there are none with no queu in them.
Someone in this thread spoke about the trade off between resources and money (I think the person used the "bean counting" hehe).  Can be that NC soft is lackign of resources?
I think the idea of cloning servers from Mythic was great... it did let network of people (guilds) to separate but... I think it was not well done... they did take too long to merge back servers when the queues started to dissapear (we all know the hsitory of that MMO).
Now, I am pretty sure if some of the people here posting got paid for working in a MMO company would spend the time necessary to think solutions. I dont believe in  "there are no solutions for this problem".
When you said "Some people are just determined to be upset, and they'll use whatever justification they have to." do you mean customers that paid and cant use the service? I am sure they will be pissed. Dont take me wrong I am playing it. I think the game is good quality (maybe not the best MMO I ever played but, for example, its stable... good use of instance to do load balancing, lag is low considering the amount of people running all over, etc).  But the queues are a mistake.
Can they open more Channels for example?
Can they clone server (a way of opening more Channels) and then merge in 2 weeks?
Can they buy better servers? Or the servers arent scalable in hardware? or wont make any difference?
Couldnt they locked the server more on the preselection?
Saying there are no solutions is problemic itself. Asking ME (one of the customers) for a solution is nice but I dont get paid for it. I have my opinions and I lack of information to find a solution. But I am sure again of one thing: customers bought something they are having problems to use.
 
 
 


 
Every time I've checked I've been able to find a server open.  I've never had to wait to log into a character that I have already created.
There is no problem.  Just whiners.

There's no hope for this guy, he thinks everything is great cause he is fine. No problem with you, no problem at all.


Originally posted by Kaocan

Originally posted by Hashbrick

 



Originally posted by Rhoklaw
Did the NA early launch have que times... YES!
Did the NA early launch show absurd wait times... YES!
Did it actually take 1, 5, 10 or even 100 hours to login... HELL NO!
 
After the prelaunch started, it took me a whopping 2 minutes to login even though my que said 44 minutes. Go figure! Amazing how lack of patience isn't a virtue. Try confirming a piss poor launch before coming here and stating such things, heh.


 
I suggest you stop taking one server into perspective and look at them all. Most east coast servers are still at the 5hr wait time to get in. It's bullshit. It's even more bullshit for someone to have to change to a different server that is less populated when the during pre-select they choose their server. Many people have large guilds that play on one server. Maybe you guys aren't the social type or something but there is more than just playing by yourself.

 
Ok, what server, what side? You seem extremely vocal on telling everyone they MUST have the same issue as you do. Perhaps they don't. I had ZERO queue, every time I logged in. Elyos Kaisinel - you?? I'm going to go out on a limb here and say 95% of everyone bitching is on the same side, and 2-3 servers.


If I've been extremely vocal you could at least read the damn posts. I said there was a select few that had little to no queue but why should anyone who has set their server in pre-select need to move, specially when they are on that server for the guild. The server is Zikel try it, i bet around 2-3hrs queue up.


Originally posted by TheHavok
People need to calm down.  Having servers be full on launch day (and head starts) is normal.  Just be glad that servers aren't crashing. 

Launch day yes, Head Start No. And yes many servers have gone done or the course of this day. When I got in for the little time I could till crash/queue it did play smooth no lag. The problem they have is population not lag. It's crashing cause they are allowing too many into one server, this would have been fixed by adding more. I know damn well they knew they would be sort, but just decided to say fuck it and let the customers deal with it.


Originally posted by Rhoklaw
Did the NA early launch have que times... YES!
Did the NA early launch show absurd wait times... YES!
Did it actually take 1, 5, 10 or even 100 hours to login... HELL NO!
 
After the prelaunch started, it took me a whopping 2 minutes to login even though my que said 44 minutes. Go figure! Amazing how lack of patience isn't a virtue. Try confirming a piss poor launch before coming here and stating such things, heh.

I suggest you stop taking one server into perspective and look at them all. Most east coast servers are still at the 5hr wait time to get in. It's bullshit. It's even more bullshit for someone to have to change to a different server that is less populated when the during pre-select they choose their server. Many people have large guilds that play on one server. Maybe you guys aren't the social type or something but there is more than just playing by yourself.

Originally posted by zymurgeist



I don't blame the customers for creating the problem. I blame them for not only putting up with it for years but continuing to do so while complaining the whole time.  I have very little sympathy for serial stupidity. Like I said give it some time it will get straightened out. They'll add servers a few at a time until it does.

That's fine, I'd be agreeing with you if it was an indy company or SOE, EA, Funcom, but NCsoft has a great track record. So I felt safe in my purchase, I felt they could deliver like they always have. No we haven't been deceived or even scammed, but screwed on the time we have purchased. Unless they compensate and even that won't heal the wounds but it's a start. At least then they are apologizing and know they made a mistake.

But as I've been saying the ones who planned to play today cause it was their free time or took off work to dive a little into a fantasy, unless they went to a west coast server that had a small queue never will get in today or gave up trying.

At any rate I gave up long ago, won't have time tomorrow so there was no reason to pre-order except for the shitty items that I didn't want any way. You win some you loose some but you can't help but bitch when you get screwed, that's why we have court cases and that's why their is returns in retail. When a product doesn't work as expected you shouldn't have to put up with, but in this digital world where almost anything goes, there is no hope at least yet for that.


Originally posted by zymurgeist

Originally posted by Hashbrick

 



Originally posted by zymurgeist


Originally posted by Hashbrick
 
 
 

Originally posted by zymurgeist


Originally posted by Hashbrick
 
 
 
Then wtf you doing here? Get out. You have no clue on the issue at hand from experience.
 
 



 
 
Watching the train wreck and counting the tears.  Make me. I have a lot of clues. Would you like to buy one? People experience this at every highly anticipated launch. It's usually the same people yelling about it every time too.
Serioulsy though you may as well calm down.
 




 
It's not normal that's the problem, it shouldn't be standard. We shouldn't have to wipe NCsoft's ass when they screw up and say it's ok we'll just wait. They are a company with a product that they are selling. If I went and sold an application that the client couldn't access or had limited access to, I'd loose the contract. These companies need to start being held accountable, fined whatever it takes to stop this lazy bullshit. No other industry can get away with, why the hell should they.



 
 
The only way to hold them accountable is to not pay for a pig in a poke but wait until they have a  product ready to sell before buying it. If they can keep playing the same crowd for suckers every time they will. You're part of the problem and what you're doing now isn't part of the solution.



 
Then we need a standard, it's not the customer's problem, it's the industry's. The customer is just following the trend, the industry created the mold of the trend. How can you honestly blame the customers.
 


I don't blame the customers for creating the problem. I blame them for not only putting up with it for years but continuing to do so while complaining the whole time.  I have very little sympathy for serial stupidity. Like I said give it some time it will get straightened out. They'll add servers a few at a time until it does.

That's fine, I'd agreeing with you if it was an indy company or SOE, EA, Funcom, but NCsoft has a great track record. So I felt safe in my purchase, I felt they could deliver like they always have. No we haven't been deceived or even scammed, but screwed on the time we have purchased. Unless they compensate and even that won't heal the wounds but it's a start. At least then they are apologizing and know they made a mistake.

But as I've been saying the ones who planned to play today cause it was their free time or took off work to dive a little into a fantasy, unless they went to a west coast server that had a small queue never will get in today or gave up trying.

At any rate I gave up long ago, won't have time tomorrow so there was no reason to pre-order except for the shitty items that I didn't want any way. You win some you loose some but you can't help but bitch when you get screwed, that's why we have court cases and that's why their is returns in retail. When a product doesn't work as expected you shouldn't have to put up with, but in this digital world where almost anything goes, there is no hope at least yet for that.


Originally posted by Dubhlaith
At least we can all agree that Twitter is a steaming pile of shit,

That I can totally agree with.


Originally posted by zymurgeist

Originally posted by Hashbrick

 



Originally posted by zymurgeist


Originally posted by Hashbrick
 
 
 
Then wtf you doing here? Get out. You have no clue on the issue at hand from experience.
 




 
 
Watching the train wreck and counting the tears.  Make me. I have a lot of clues. Would you like to buy one? People experience this at every highly anticipated launch. It's usually the same people yelling about it every time too.
Serioulsy though you may as well calm down.



 
It's not normal that's the problem, it shouldn't be standard. We shouldn't have to wipe NCsoft's ass when they screw up and say it's ok we'll just wait. They are a company with a product that they are selling. If I went and sold an application that the client couldn't access or had limited access to, I'd loose the contract. These companies need to start being held accountable, fined whatever it takes to stop this lazy bullshit. No other industry can get away with, why the hell should they.

 
The only way to hold them accountable is to not pay for a pig in a poke but wait until they have a  product ready to sell before buying it. If they can keep playing the same crowd for suckers every time they will. You're part of the problem and what you're doing now isn't part of the solution.


Then we need a standard, it's not the customer's problem, it's the industry's. The customer is just following the trend, the industry created the mold of the trend. How can you honestly blame the customers.


Originally posted by zymurgeist

Originally posted by Hashbrick

 
 
Then wtf you doing here? Get out. You have no clue on the issue at hand from experience.
 


 
Watching the train wreck and counting the tears.  Make me. I have a lot of clues. Would you like to buy one? People experience this at every highly anticipated launch. It's usually the same people yelling about it every time too.
Serioulsy though you may as well calm down.


It's not normal that's the problem, it shouldn't be standard. We shouldn't have to wipe NCsoft's ass when they screw up and say it's ok we'll just wait. They are a company with a product that they are selling. If I went and sold an application that the client couldn't access or had limited access to, I'd loose the contract. These companies need to start being held accountable, fined whatever it takes to stop this lazy bullshit. No other industry can get away with, why the hell should they.


Originally posted by greed0104

Originally posted by templarga
Then if they can't handle it, why do a head start program anyway?
What MMO can handle thousands of people in one area at level 1 trying to level? Name one please, one that stayed stable.
Why even bother if it was going to result in queues?
Because people ARE getting a head start, you just drew a short straw but still have/had a chance to play.
Do they honestly think all of this will matter in weeks when server balance is the real problem? It isn't at launch, its later on when people start quitting.
I'm sure quite a few servers will retain a queue, it will help with balance, and they will continue to divide the race choices as well. 
It is not an issue of common sense when the company should have been prepared for it. Considering they had pre-order and open beta numbers, they knew what kind of server infrastructure they would need. That is what doesn't make sense to me.
Nope, doesn't make sense to me, you have  very selective reading there "professor" didn't I say in many threads it's their problem? You still miss my point, and will probably continue to do so. You knew there was 400,000 people waiting to get in to play this at head start, you knew there was only 12 servers. You still decided to purchase the game, I'm not supporting NCsoft at all, I'm calling you out on your ignorance. But what do I know? I'm just a construction worker with no superior title such as professor.


 

I'd go along with your last piece there except for the fact you can't cancel your pre-orders once codes are sent out. Depending on when you purchased it you didn't have any clue to how many servers or how many people. The last minute you did, when canceling was immanent.


Originally posted by Vyce

Originally posted by Hashbrick

Agreed. whatever.
On a side note who ever said they can get on their server on entry is lying, every server has a queue I just checked.
Look you can sugar coat this anyway you want to the point is, if I was in head start I wouldn't be bitching so their is obviously a problem and waiting 5-6hrs (assuming the client is even right, which it isn't) is ridiculous. When you shit it stinks and NCsoft just shitted a pile they can't deodorize. They had the numbers, there is no EXCUSE! ZERO!


 
FYI I just logged in, created a new toon and am in-game right now. Server is Yustiel, it was the first server I tried.


Aye the 10min queue has been gone, it was the lowest queue but still a queue none the less. The point of pre-selection however was reserve your character on the server you wanted to be on. For those who went on a popular East coast server are now sitting 4-5hrs just to get in. The worst part is once they get in and they disconnect, guess what. yep queue of 4-5hrs. Enough to piss you off for the rest of the day if not tomorrow, specially if you made plans to play. I don't take off work for games but I there is a high percentage that do, so to those it's a stab in the back.

Agreed. whatever.

On a side note who ever said they can get on their server on entry is lying, every server has a queue I just checked.

Look you can sugar coat this anyway you want to the point is, if I was in head start I wouldn't be bitching so their is obviously a problem and waiting 5-6hrs (assuming the client is even right, which it isn't) is ridiculous. When you shit it stinks and NCsoft just shitted a pile they can't deodorize. They had the numbers, there is no EXCUSE! ZERO!


Originally posted by zymurgeist

Originally posted by AgtSmith

I am always amazed and the ability of mindless fanboys to make any excuse for the drap these game companies pull, intentional or otherwise.  People paid to play today, the queues have kept a substantial number of paying players from playing - plain and simple NCsoft is not delivering what they where paid to deliver.
 


Originally posted by zymurgeist

 
That's a lose<>lose proposition.  They're never going to hit it exactly but a whole bunch of people will end up on nearly empty servers in a few weeks if they don't take the time to calibrate the loads correctly. Mostly this is the result of everyone who can  trying to log in at once. A week or so after launch the overcrowding will subside.



 
BS,  If they want to start billing in a couple weeks when things settle down then that is a fine approach, otherwise they are taking money and not providing the service contracted for and that is unacceptable. 
 
Just to keep this framed, we are not talking about 15 or 20 minute queues but queues of hours and hours and queues that even after waiting for several hours are still climbing.  It is a horrific mess and one made entirely of NCsofts incompetence or lack of concern for its customers.

 
I'm always amazed that people think everyone who has the good sense not to immediately get out the tar and feathers is a mindless fanboy. Here's a clue. Not being a total moron I don't preorder games and I don't play the first few days after launch for any game. Especially not for ones I have no intention of buying at all. I guess not buying a game makes me a fanboy huh? Quit your crying and wait.  You're not helping anything least of all yourself.  It's Sunday night in case you haven't noticed and it may take them a bit to get a handle on it..


Then wtf you doing here? Get out. You have no clue on the issue at hand from experience.


Originally posted by madeux

Originally posted by Hashbrick

 



Originally posted by madeux


Originally posted by greed0104


Originally posted by madeux


Originally posted by templarga


Originally posted by AgtSmith
 
I am always amazed and the ability of mindless fanboys to make any excuse for the drap these game companies pull, intentional or otherwise.  People paid to play today, the queues have kept a substantial number of paying players from playing - plain and simple NCsoft is not delivering what they where paid to deliver.




Exactly.
Its sad to me that so many rush to defend the company over the consumer.



 
So enlighten us.  What should they do to please you?



He has been asked that a few times, no logical answer given. Except "add more servers", why when some have little to no queue?



 
I have 39 minutes left in queue for the server I wanted to play on.  Damn, I should be whining about that, shouldn't I? :)
 


 
Your probably the type of guy that gets the wrong size pants/shirt and doesn't return them because you feel it was your fault.
When you pay money for something you should get what you are entitled to and queues in head start are ridiculous. Servers need to be added yes, but the control of the population is what is needed to be done and should have been done during pre-selection. If you want to kiss ncSoft's ass go for it but don't say it isn't their fault cause it's 100% their fault.


 
If I choose to get into the long line because it has the cute cashier, that's my own fault.
Like all of the other whiners, you've yet to explain what really could have been done. 

I told you exactly what needs to be done, if you can't comprehend that, that is not my problem. For the last god damn time, the population of the servers should have been regulated during pre-selection, there should be no reason for every server to hit high status on head start. If population was more than the server count they had they should have opened more, not just fuck the customer and throw up queues. Stop being a god damn moron and open your eyes.


Originally posted by madeux

Originally posted by greed0104

Originally posted by madeux

Originally posted by templarga

Originally posted by AgtSmith

I am always amazed and the ability of mindless fanboys to make any excuse for the drap these game companies pull, intentional or otherwise.  People paid to play today, the queues have kept a substantial number of paying players from playing - plain and simple NCsoft is not delivering what they where paid to deliver.



Exactly.
Its sad to me that so many rush to defend the company over the consumer.


 
So enlighten us.  What should they do to please you?


He has been asked that a few times, no logical answer given. Except "add more servers", why when some have little to no queue?


 
I have 39 minutes left in queue for the server I wanted to play on.  Damn, I should be whining about that, shouldn't I? :)
 

You're probably the type of guy that gets the wrong size pants/shirt and doesn't return them because you feel it was your fault.

When you pay money for something you should get what you are entitled to and queues in head start are ridiculous. Servers need to be added yes, but the control of the population is what is needed to be done and should have been done during pre-selection. If you want to kiss ncSoft's ass go for it but don't say it isn't their fault cause it's 100% their fault.


Originally posted by madeux

Originally posted by Hashbrick

 



Originally posted by Swanea
So basically you could be playing on another server, but you and your 4 friends can't be bothered to start on one of the lesser packed servers?
Sounds like you have an answer to your own problem, otherwise, don't complain.


 
What about entire guilds...


 
If they insist on playing together, then they have to wait and be patient.  There's nothing that can/could/should be done about that.
if they cut servers off when they got full, they'd still complain.  NCSoft is letting things settle themselves out, and it will work just fine.  We just have to put up with a few whiners crying because the world isn't bending to their will.

Ya, there is something that should be done about it. Calculating server population correctly. If you are too blind to not foresee this a problem a couple days away from now I don't know what to tell you except to take off your rose tinted glasses. The only server that was open with no queues has just crashed. What you have to say about that. It's a huge problem and opening day is going to be 10 x worse.

Edit: And those who need to see proof.

That is terrible to hit all highs on head start. The population is massive for the server space available.

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