Don't know where many of you are shopping but I've just bought a Windows 7 quad core PC with 3gig ram and a GPU to run any modern game on the highest setting for just over £500.

For instance the new game Dragon Age Origins is FAR better visually and smoother on this machine than on any console version. I'll have this computer for the next 5-7 years and probably only upgrade the GPU.

People with consoles have to spend more on their games - 30-40% more and I'd imagine most if not all will be in line to purchase the next Xbox or PS4 when it comes out in a couple of years. Add all that up and you'll find the cost of a decent PC is pretty similar to a console ...and that's without even touching on the million other things you can do on a PC ...oh and MODS! MODS and MORE MODS!

Originally posted by Sober_Sean

It's bloody simple, even Blizzard will agree with this, how simple it is.  They've even mentioned this concept in speeches in the past.  Here, this is why at it's most fundamental level.

 

Control.

 

Blizzard doesn't release anything until it controls perfectly, until it feels naturally.  The feeling of control, is production number 1 on their devs minds and it is fine tuned, tweaked and perfected before anything else in the game is focused on.

 

That one thing alone, the feeling and sense of smoothness when you control your character or units in any blizzard game is the reason.  Say what you will about them I'm not here to defend them or whatever I'm just saying.  Warhammer ignored that concept.  Characters controlled and felt like shit.  That right there was...well you didn't really need anything else.  If you don't get that right, then the rest is meaningless.

 

Note to future game devs that don't want to be scrounging out of dumpsters looking for a dirty chicken wing when their game tanks and they end up tossed to the curb...focus on the controls first.  The "feel" behind the character, get that part absolutely perfect first, then worry about the rest.  Ignore that?  Don't say I didn't tell you so.

100% agree. This is number one, without that fluid responsive connection between user and avatar even the greatest game in the world will fail.

@ the OP - I hear this time and time again, all I can say is so much for the ruthless Eve universe, at least if something similar happens in WoW you usually get spat on, laughed at and feel determined for revenge.

For all its 'hardcore' nature, most of the time EVE actually sounds more carebear than WoW could ever be.

(Puts on flame proof suit)

LOTRO no contest.

DDO is barely even an MMO, probably even less so than Guild Wars...
Its just a quest hub with repeptitive mini instances and badly animated ugly graphics.

I have Two WoW European Scrolls of Resurrection remaining - PM me with your email address and I'll send one out ASAP!

This reminds me of when British Telecom tried to claim they owned the patent on hyperlinks

Its complete rubbish and will come to absolutely nothing, just some idiots trying to squeeze cash out of rich companies.

Laggy spreadsheets

Let me rebind the keys FFS!!

13 UK pounds a month for this!??!

So close yet so, so far...

Originally posted by Honeymoon69

its simple, they cloned WoW instead of Daoc.

 

It not that simple at all. If they HAD just cloned WoW they'd probably have a couple of million players by now and a very healthy game seeing as the Warhammer name is just as loved as the Warcraft IP.

The problem is they didn't make a 'world' to live and level in, the entire game, as the OP stated, just felt bland and faceless with tiny claustrophobic zones - it felt like a forced theme park instead of an open living world.

50 Characters?!?!

You sound like one of those obsessive compulsive hermits on documentary TV programs who bag their own feces and bottle their own piss...

...come to think of it - if you've got 50 WoW characters you've probably been doing just that.

1. Remove Battlegrounds

2. Remove Arenas

3. Remove Achievement points

Great vids.

They really are ripping the guts right out of WoW and rebuidling it from the ground up with loads of new features. I'm almost reluctant to keep playing until this is all in game.

Until then they should allow the shards to be stackable.

Got to give it up for Blizzard - this is a pretty brave move.

Blizzard REALLY needs to pull everything back to the original lands with the next expansion. Watching that vid there's more than enough content to create a couple of expansions out of...

Originally posted by VolatileMan

Let us also not forget that the Arenanet team is made up of former Blizzard guys that actually created Battlenet!! I believe they were even major contributors to the original Diablo.

Point being, these guys know WTF they are doing!!

Also isn't one of the guys who made the WoW engine so brilliant now working at ANet?

GW2 really is going to be incredible!

I have four  three Two WoW Europe Scrolls of Resurrection remaining - PM me with your email address and I'll send one out ASAP!

Originally posted by logangregor

Ugh, Oblivion. Oblivion wasnt half the rpg that Morrowind was.

That killed your whole post for me.

Totally agree, we already have many MMOs as shallow and half-assed as Oblivion already...

Originally posted by nariusseldon 

3-4 months is a LONG time for a game. Plus you can always grind for gear that last AFTER your leveling.

 

3-4 months to get to end game in an MMO should be considered VERY quick. The whole point of these games is to 'live' and grow in a world over many months and even years. It should take a casual person playing 3-4 hours a week many months to get to max level.

Obviously there should be enough quality content to fill this time, but I agree with the OP when I say I would love to play an MMO where I just forgot about leveling because it was slow and I was enjoying myself too much to even care about numbers.

WoW soundtrack by a HUGE margin - each and every zone has a distinct original sound to it and the capital city pieces are truly billiant.

Why is Paul Barnett even working after the Warhammer joke???

Nobody with half a brain cell would believe anything he says anymore - hes actually a liability to EA now...