I've noticed many PC dev's saying the same, especially over the last few months.

I think as PCs continue to get cheaper and faster and more integrated into peoples homes the popularity will swing back in their favour and away from the console.

Its ironic that the strength of the console i.e. uniformity will probably be it's downfall due to holding back the development speed of the games.

Originally posted by kishe

Everyone wanted it to be DAoC2...they gave us WoW2

Actually if they'd given us WoW2 they'd probably have been extremely successful...

Why the hell would anyone want to 'play' any decent game on a 3-4" screen - haven't we evolved from that silly idea by now?

So basically the devs have not learned a single thing from their first FF MMO ... reading this review you could have been excused for thinking it was about FF XI ...sigh

When I saw the news my reaction was Wow, well done for having the balls to do it.

Lets be clear here LOTRO never got the sub numbers it needed to play out the plan that Turbine wanted, they know that and we know that.

Since release the game has been on a very slow but steady decline and will only get worse when games like GW2 and KOTOR come out. The ONLY option Turbine had was to convert it to F2P - thats the ONLY way this game has a hope of reaching Mordor ...and even then its a slim hope...

Was never going to buy anything from these jokers anyway but I see people saying they would pay $15-20 dollars a month in CS items to play this. Thing is its not even worth that - at best its a 1/4 of what WoW or any other top p2p mmo is so realistically somewhere around $5 a month MAX in cash shop items should be MORE than enough to stay competitive.

The budget of an MMO is completely meaningless to me - the only thing I'm interested in is if its fun to play.

Money does not equal talent or ideas...

Never have, never will - Its a filthy, filthy habit and I keep well away from those smoker types. 

Unbelievable - I shit you not ... forums.2kgames.com/forums/showthread.php

Nahh Bioware are far too busy churning out DLC and expansion packs to worry about the original people who bought the game...

Haha too funny. The game even uses graphics of the Warcraft 3/Wow models in game.

Lets hope one day... but not today and not with Cryptic...

Neither, Bethesda don't have a clue about Fallout and, as has been said, Interplay are existing only in name.

Nope, there can be only one or the other - P2P with EVERYTHING available (even cosmetic fluff) or F2P with cash shop - having both is an insult and should not be supported by anyone regardless of the game and publisher.

Take a stand guys, because if these MMO dev's get so much as a sniff that's some of you don't mind paying a subscription AND giving more money for extra items they'll ALL be doing it in a shot and it'll be a further slide into the gutter for current MMO's...

Pointless fluff items today, skills and important items tomorrow...

Very good interview with some prying questions.

I can't believe the cheek of Cryptic thinking its acceptable to ask for a subscription AND have a cash shop too - its disgraceful and should not be supported by anyone.

I never have and never will spend a penny in those F2P item shops, I think its because I come at F2P games with a different mindset.

With F2P I start playing them with no commitments and a take it or leave it attitude, so in that way my game experience is never as 'deep' as if I'd invested £9 at the start of a month with a P2P game.

Even if I get quite far into a F2P game that feeling of not wanting to spend anything on it never leaves me, maybe I know that the devs of a F2P can change anything at any time in a bid to get more money off players and its this I don't trust. Whereas with P2P the devs have to (usually) be very careful with what they do because they need you to keep subbing.

The moment I buy an item from a F2P shop will be the moment I know those devs have beaten me.

Its pretty certain that the score is a good 1 point higher than it should be due to the company making fake accounts here.

This was obvious especially when it was first released - there would always some really hyper fake sounding posts from new members stating how great the game was and they probably still pop in now and again to hype the interest...

So I just installed the EU trial to see how this game is and there's no option to adjust mouse sensitivity!? you know like ALL other MMOs out there. A quick google search reveals people were posting and requesting this simple feature in 2008...

I'd have to say too that signing up for the trial was a handful, first the sign up page would not work in Firefox, (no warning of this and how many people would have given up at this point) so had to use IE. Then when I press Activate Trail its tells me my account had been suspended, but after a google search find that I should be able to log in to client (again no warning about it taking time for accounts to be activated)... its like they don't even want people to come back... How GOA are still running the EU side of things is unfathomable...

Guys just download the mobile phone Battlenet authenticator - they've got it for just about every mobile out there now and it only costs 50p  (hate giving any more money to Blizz but in this case its well worth it.)

Its highly unlikely LOTRO will even be around by then - they are already struggling now trying to keep players happy in deserted towns and quests chains.

The more expansions they make the thinner the population spread is and the longer it takes for new players to grind through empty content. By the time Frodo gets to Mordor I'd imagine another 4/5 expansions would have come out and max lvl will be close to 100 - unfortunately the population just isn't large enough to play this kind of content and most importantly fund Turbine making it.

Plus the graphics, (especially models which already do) will look so horribly outdated in the next five+ years will anyone even want to still play this?