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Originally posted by lugal
If it is true that this is just a ruse for SOE to get this game made cheaper than if they paid for all the dev, then I hope they get sued. Not sure what law they would be breaking, but I hope there is one. For this could kill kickstarter.


Good thing it is not true :D

Originally posted by Ikonis

This. I find I very dishonest to show a Unity prototype and label it pre-Alpha. It should have been labeled as a prototype and a note on what that means or not shown at all. 


The people in involved should also not have been reading carefully prepared scripts, especially when they can't do it without sounding like they are reading from scripts.

Those are the reasons that even though I am a Vanguard fan, I will not back this. It comes off way too dishonest.

You are not backing the game because developers are not actors?  Lol.  Well enjoy SWTOR then.


Anyway,  new layout of kickstarter tiers is better below is better - but side listing is still confusing.  I guess PCGamer has a reveal today.

Yeah be cool to see him working on it instead of just a jpeg of one week of work.


Agree. Kickstarter could be better.  Tiers above 45 get confusing as to what you get.  Also I wish they'd shown more of the dungeon not just the first part.

Originally posted by cagan

Very original concept,  a cleric! They can use staves? They heal?

I smell another themepark game, give us some different concepts, some more freedom. We already have 23536 games clerics heal, warriors have heavy armor and carry 2 handed swords, rogues stabby stabby people and cool ninja costumes...

Not themepark.  Oldschool.  Not many quests.  No quest hubs.  Grouping to kill mobs.  Soloing will be tough in this game. 

Originally posted by Asm0deus

Sounds interesting but I am kind of wary of kickstarter and all the pledge 500$ and receive XYZ. 


Dunno but all those pledge "rewards" feel wrong to me and I am not talking about one game in particular but the whole concept in general.

I just got the $45 Alpha entry + digital copy.  Cheap!  $500 is too much for me too man :D  Alpha entries tier is almost gone though.

Nice.   But not going to play a healer.  Interested in what rogue class/classes they'll be showing.
Originally posted by Ceythos
Originally posted by DefectorSaryrn
The strech goals are what they will promise to get into game for launch.  They intend to meet all the strech goals, even if the kickstart doesnt get them funded - they just may not be in for launch.  - I heard this directly from Brad in another topic.

This is spot on. While some of the unfunded stretch goals may not make it in for launch, we're still going to have to design the world, classes, systems, etc with those goals in mind - otherwise you just end up with them tacked on, and they end up feeling tacked on (which would be a huge no-no). So we'll be doing a good bit of the the work on those things regardless, but the full implementation may come later after launch depending on funding.


Wow a dev.  :p

Yeah.  The devs said there will be quests but no quest hubs.  I think I saw it on pjpantheon.  Edit: or maybe that video :D
Originally posted by Wellspring

It is great to see Fires of Heaven, the top guild from EQ1 back in the day, backing Pantheon.

So much so, that going to their guild website redirects you to the kickstarter page.


What a great way to get the word out!




Wow :D Surprising, but cool.

@Ridrith  Brad has stated that he will be seeking additional funding so that all stretch goals will be meet by release.  The 800k is the minimum to get game development started.  He will then go back to kickstarter (like the Repopulation) or seek outside investors so that crafting and the most of the other stretch goals are in the released game.


Brad has also said that anything that doesn't make it into the released game - such as the higher stretch goals like player farming will be added to the game after release, once they are getting subscription money.

Brad needs to do an interview with MMORPG about Pantheon, yesterday.  Some Ranger at MMORPG needs to track him down.
Good article.  Got me to think about  hitting up Brad's old school mmo kickstarter project - if he can come up with some more detailed info about the game in the next few days. I want to know what races/classes are not stretch goals.
Good stuff!
Originally posted by Razeekster
It's pretty sad how hard some of you are tearing apart a game that you don't even know anything about yet... Talk about bitter.

Who cares.  All that matters is that enough people like it to fund it.

Originally posted by Fearum

Sounds like a Moba title name.


Nope. It's the "Modern, challenging, group focused MMO game"

Official Twitter Feed:



We have a name from Aradune's twitter: (


Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen



Originally posted by SnarlingWolf

buggy is the understatement of a lifetime. I've played many MMOs at launch, and several have been buggy.


Vanguard at launch was a f*&king train wreck. I played on day 1 (when it wasn't crashing and rolling back resetting all progress and all of the "permanently found and engraved landmarks" which were supposed to be nice and special to early players) and I couldn't believe how broken it was. It was atrocious and to this day I am pissed they didn't give a refund.

I played VG at launch as well.  Laggy as heck, massive chunking and of course bugs.  I didn't quit at level 2 like 50% of the population and ended up enjoying the heck out of that game.   Probably my favorite MMO of all time - even over EQ and WoW.

If VG had had a non-buggy launch it would have easily hit EQ1/2 numbers long term (200-500k).  I don't think this new kickstarter MMO could come close  to that, it just can't have as wide gameplay, but a niche MMO could still get 100k subs which is enough to sustain the game and pay for expansions.

Originally posted by eric1000
McQuaid made one good game when MMO's were new and fresh, after which he thought of himself as the god of the genre.  Vanguard showed just how wrong he was.  Has everyone forgotten how he bad mouthed all the other competing games that were being made at the same time?  I bet FC haven't stopped laughing yet that SoE had to bail out his wreck of a game.  Myself I wouldn't touch anything that McQuaid has a hand in until it has been proven solid, polished and a worthwhile investment of my money and time.

Vanguard at release was buggy but design wise better than anything else that's come along since.  Your money is yours to spend as you want.  If you didn't like Vanguard I can't imagine you'll like a new game from him.  I on the other hand am looking forward to this game - and frankly the lack of big time money will force them to make a smaller, better game.  Vanguard's biggest failing was that the aimed way too big.

Originally posted by JayFiveAlive


Brad had already hinted that its going to be a niche game. Games that appeal to a broad audience end up being too casual and not focused. They cant be the best at everything just OK at a lot of things. He knows his target audience and that's all that matters for now. I will definitely be supporting his game. I just hope it's truly is an EQ/Vanguard successor as they are some of the best games I've played. Hell been playing p99 EQ for months now and its just as fun as back in the day. 

Exactly this.  Bring on the niche MMO!

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