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Originally posted by Soandsoso

I would say that the final nail is being hammered in as I write this.

 

Now we watch the death throws........grabs popcorn.

What are you talkling about? There are no exploits in AA and TRION has the best customer service ever!

Originally posted by iixviiiix

Hasla weapon and RNG token grind ,

same faction PK without right punishment

Quest hubs leveling and instances dungeon

Lack of labor point to do any active in game

.

Top reasons that people i know quit AA .

Me ? Lack of labor point .

Heres mine.

 

Its fail2play

 

TRION's involved.

 

Yup. Sums it up lol.

Originally posted by Acidon

This is crazy.  There were a crapton of people excited for this game before release.

 

Yah and then TRION made one legendary screw up after another.

 

Its pretty bad when even the F2P'ers are fleeing lol

Originally posted by Volgore
Originally posted by GeezerGamer

This game is the poster child for what is wrong with the genre. Too many legit players and players who just wanted to put in their honest effort simply got burned by Trion, XL Games, cheaters, and whales. With so much stacked against them, it appears that many just simply gave up on trying to make it work. Even on these boards, it wasn't more than a couple weeks ago, that AA's forums covered 2-3 pages of new or updated threads per day. Now it's at 2-3 threads per day. My guess is that people are just done jumping through hoops with this particular circus act.

Even that new Sticky, consolidated monetization thread that was created a few days ago only hit 3 pages and hasn't been touched in 2 days. I'd say people just got tired of trying to wait for it to get better realizing it probably never will.

Good post.

Now i'm waiting for the white knight to tell you that those legit players you describe did it wrong.

DMKano should be along shortly

Originally posted by sonicwhip2

To those who think I'm crazy for saying this just take a look at the new NCsoft earnings report and compare Aion revenue with Wildstar revenue. Aion is generating a much larger profit and they have been free to play for a few years now while the Wildstar revenue has seen an extreme decrease from last quarter (which was their first) to this quarter.

This is more solid evidence that the pay to play model is really going the way of the Dodo. Even SoE has faced up to the realities by planning a free to play Everquest Next. No new mmo today can successfully operate under P2P only WoW and Eve online can handle it and I bet even they have plans for a business model change somewhere in the far future.

Honestly I don't know what Carbine was thinking when they chose this tired old business model I honestly think they would have actually been most successful under a Guildwars 2 style model of Buy to play and possibly an optional subscription fee with a cosmetic and non essential cash shop. I can't possibly be the only one who thinks that one day not a single mmo will operate under a mandatory monthly charge right?

Yah sorry to bad, they already have stated its not going fail2play.

 

 

Originally posted by Volgore

How many times exactly has Trion banned legit players and given an excuse by now?

Someone help me out, i lost count...

I would suggest asking fanboy DMKano.

 

He's good at blindly defending AA and TRION :)

Originally posted by DMKano
Originally posted by JackFrosty

Believe it or not (and as hard as it is to believe now that they are probably the most single hated MMO company with countless screw ups) TRION used to actually be good before RIFT went fail2play.

Then Scott Hartsman came back after they had carved his game into a 1000 pieces for fail2play and its been all about how to milk another buck out their players since instead of making a good game.

That ill gotten attitude carried over to the famous RNG crapshoot known as Defiance and of course, now the absolutely legendary AA with historical screw up after screw up.

Its to bad, TRION used to actually be good, now they are just... TRION. Self explanitory.

 

 

 

Lol

 

Are your trying to demonstrate you know how to link a jpeg? Hurrah! ROFL

Believe it or not (and as hard as it is to believe now that they are probably the most single hated MMO company with countless screw ups) TRION used to actually be good before RIFT went fail2play.

Then Scott Hartsman came back after they had carved his game into a 1000 pieces for fail2play and its been all about how to milk another buck out their players since instead of making a good game.

That ill gotten attitude carried over to the famous RNG crapshoot known as Defiance and of course, now the absolutely legendary AA with historical screw up after screw up.

Its to bad, TRION used to actually be good, now they are just... TRION. Self explanitory.

 

 

Originally posted by DMKano

1. Cash shop would sell Armor and weapons as well as abilities that cannot be obtained by any other means in game

2. Cash shop bought Armor/Weapons/Abilities would be the strongest in game

3. Cash shop bought items would be bound to character and could not be sold or traded in game

 

That is a classic 100% example of Pay to Win.

 

Many MMO games (including AA) that are labeled as "Pay to Win" on these very forums - simply don't have the above 3 aspects

 

Until this happens - AA will never be a P2W game to me - but I understand that opinions vary - due to what entails "winning" which in a game as multi-faceted as AA is pretty hard to nail down IMO.

 

 

 

Ahh Kano your an endless source of entertainment

 

So after your last 2 threads about AA not being P2W completely failed you have made a 3rd. How sad yet amusing

 

/popcorn

By DMKano

The option of spending real money for greatness is in every game.

No its not but nice try.

By DMKano

The only difference is time and luck.

And thats the point. Time is money and you keep twisting an arguement because your wrong like in multiple other threads.

By DMKano

And dev studios would love to go back to sub only model if it were profitable.


 

Blizzard and 7.6 other million people are laughing at this statement

Originally posted by DMKano

I suggest staying.

Don't spend any cash in the cash shop period. It takes discipline - but that's how I do it.

Even as a 100% free account who can't own land - just grind out hasla up to T3, do GHA til you are 7/7 then do Serpentis.

The gear you'll end up with will be very competitive even with those who've spent a LOT in the cash shop.

 

Never let a monetization model ruin the game for you.

 

So what your saying is expect million dollar games and don't pay a cent

This games utter failure just gets worse and funnier almost on a daily basis LOL

 

http://massively.joystiq.com/2014/11/10/an-archeage-player-found-a-way-to-kill-the-servers-at-will/

 

http://forums.archeagegame.com/showthread.php?114483-I-caused-the-Kyrios-Naima-crash-sorry-please-read-Trion

 

*Awaiting DMKano to swoop into thread and defend this from some hilarious angle*

/popcorn

all F2P games are pay to win.
Originally posted by DMKano
Originally posted by Johnxboy
I think if you want to try and prove that this game is not p2w you must first provide evidence that you're not legally insane. Holy shit, some people are goddamn blind when you talk about something you like. Just by providing any service that's not Account transfer or the like and cosmetic items you're already many steps foward to p2w. Stop trying to convince anyone else it's not, it's really sad, and embarrasing watching you doing so.

Imagine that - your opinion of what "defines pay to win" is your own.

I have a different opinion - that makes me legally insane.

Yes let's call anyone with different opinions legally insane.

Nice.

Or just stop defending yourself and hiding for 11+ pages in your own thread

 

/popcorn

Originally posted by DMKano
Originally posted by grimal
Originally posted by TiamatRoar
Originally posted by grimal
Originally posted by GeezerGamer
Originally posted by DMKano
Originally posted by nilden
Originally posted by DMKano
Originally posted by Siug
 

In my humble opinion we are quite near to consensus because the majority even on mmorpg.com considers AA to be p2w. The Flat Earth Society also exists so there are always people opposing the majority and it's quite normal. 

Funny thing you mention the Flat Earth belief - because for 100s of years that was believed due to a consensus, hehe

Point - just because it's a consensus doesn't mean it's true , nor right.

 

Yeah but when people discovered it wasn't and they had things like facts it was pretty obvious. Like posting the link to buy ArcheAge credits - here .

End of story.

Yeah and you can buy credits with in game gold - it's called Apex.

Again - there's nothing that you cannot buy with in game gold including credits.

 

Do you see how the entire P2W argument has zero merit?

You can pay for patron (subscription) with in-game gold by purchasing Apex in AH

 

 

I think the people only who see that the P2W argument has zero merit is dwindling. It''s pretty much been proven at this point. But by all means, keep going. If you can't prove the game's not P2W by using complete facts, the next thing to do is to throw in some subjectivity into the argument. Something like "You don't really win in an MMO" Which has no bearing on how players are using the cash shop to kick ass in PVP. But it sounds good though right?

Mr. Kano will keep this going for a while.  He has after all been playing this game for 2+ years in varios regions and is still a diehard supporter.  I think at this point it's best just not to discuss AA at all with him as he is convinced that AA is the best MMO out there.

Honestly at the point when the game pretty much starts selling all the rarest in-game materials in the cash shop at a high obtainable rate like AA is doing now, and people still don't think it's P2W, there really isn't going to be any chance whatsoever of EVER convincing them by that point (not necessarily because they're stubborn, but simply because their definition of what's pay-to-win, if they even believe such a concept exists in the first place, is such that almost NO F2P cash shop will ever be it as long as the cash shop items are tradeable. Of course, sometimes they're just being stubborn, too)

I agree.  That's why I said it's better to not get in any discussion with Kano about the game unless it is to praise it.

I have been discussing this with folks who are NOT praising this for ages.

Look at this thread!

Look at any of my threads - am I only posting in threads that praise Archeage?

 

You didn't even post in your own thread in 11+ pages to defend yourself once people proved you wrong

 

/popcorn

Originally posted by DMKano
Originally posted by nilden
Originally posted by DMKano
Originally posted by nilden
t's an idiom just like Pay 2 Win. Your not literally pulling my leg just like there is no "YOU ARE WINNER" text popup and credit roll on a MMO but you know exactly wtf I'm talking about paying for an advantage. Like buying gold, items, labor pots, regrades etc.

Carry on with your flat earth society tho by all means.

 

A player who has a shit ton of gold can buy items, labor pots, regrades etc... all without spending a single cent.

There are average players who earn 1000g per week in Archeage (just by doing 100% safe trade runs) - they buy everything (including their patron status) with gold. There are guilds that have 10s ot thousands of gold already.

 

If you want to spend money in AA - yes you can - but it doesn't give you any advantage because EVERYTHING can be bought with gold period.

 

Who is going to have more gold the person who whips out a credit card or the one who doesn't?

Who will have more labor?

Who will have more regrades?

Ya see where this is going?

PAY TO WIN. (not literally it means pay to advantage it's an idiom)

 

Short term - paying will give you an advantage - but longeterm - it's the players who earn in game gold that stick around and come out on top.

IMO - most that spend 100s of dollars in cash shop don't last more than a few months - so do you see where this is going?


 

Short term - paying will give you an advantage - but longeterm - it's the players who earn in game gold that stick around and come out on top. : PROOF?

-

No? I didnt think so.

 

IMO:

-

Is simply an opinion which means nothing.

 

/popcorn

Originally posted by DMKano
Originally posted by nilden
Originally posted by DMKano
Originally posted by Siug
 

In my humble opinion we are quite near to consensus because the majority even on mmorpg.com considers AA to be p2w. The Flat Earth Society also exists so there are always people opposing the majority and it's quite normal. 

Funny thing you mention the Flat Earth belief - because for 100s of years that was believed due to a consensus, hehe

Point - just because it's a consensus doesn't mean it's true , nor right.

 

Yeah but when people discovered it wasn't and they had things like facts it was pretty obvious. Like posting the link to buy ArcheAge credits - here .

End of story.

Yeah and you can buy credits with in game gold - it's called Apex.

Again - there's nothing that you cannot buy with in game gold including credits.

 

Do you see how the entire P2W argument has zero merit?

You can pay for patron (subscription) with in-game gold by purchasing Apex in AH

 

 

If it has no merit how come you haven't defended your position in your other thread in 11 pages and counting last time i checked?

/popcorn

*waiting for DMKano to run into the thread and claim its not P2W*

 

Even though he hasn't defended himself in his own thread in 11 pages

 

/popcorn

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