"You know what?

Launch days suck. The first few months of a new game sucks. Other people suck...

... you go and play Skyrim. I'll tell you when it is safe to log in."

Brilliant good Sir, brilliant !

"I have a confession to make: I have never reached the level cap. Not 70. Not 80. And not 85. "

Kinda hard to take your opinion seriously while you have not really played the game. Its much like taking opinion of a eunuh on sexual positions.

Not saying that comunity gets much better on cap lvl, but during leveling its mostly sludge fest of challenged players that word key binding brings menatl images of glue on their fingers and being stuck to a keyboard.

Still there with you mate.

Resubed to WOW, played for 2 weeks before my brother came with good news - SWTOR BETA WEEKEND ! I cant play, so why dont you Paske take it out for a spin and I will check it for a few hours after work, when and if I can.

Two days and one very angry wife later  -  cant play WOW anymore. Cancel sub. Got my hand on Skyrim and pretending to have fun ...

All my senses are tingling with anticipation, ho joyus moment when early access comes. Untill then we have one more open beta weekend of torture to look forward to. Then Im expection threads like this to pop up like mushrooms after rain :D

I played last weekend and indeed will play again.

I wish I could say why I will play yet again, but due to NDA I am not at liberty to discuss with any of you any point of the game besides fact that I was in a weekend beta.

Sucks :(

Its Pandas ... Freaking Pandas.

First we had Illidan - we all giggled in anticipation.

Arthas ? Forget bout it.

Deathwing, not as exposed foe as those before him, but good theme for an expansion as any I guess.

Then we get new allias instead of foes as expansion team. Fearsom - PANDAS ! April fools joke actually became a full expansion.

Done get me wrong, I like new stuff, pokemone pets for one, new talents and all other stuff. Not to mention 4.3 that MoP will lean on ( Transmorf ). But Pandas I just cant chew...

Sorry Blizz, you just wont get me to buy another expansion and resub.

It was a good read.

Nice to see a CEO like Hillmar saying - we fcked up. It was a mistake and error in judgement.

However we will do everythingand everything to make it right again.

Although Im going SWTOR way, Im still actively subed to EVE via PLEX. Looking forward to new changes.

I mean - T3 BC ? Come on. It doesnt get much cooler then that !

Was there a point to this useless post ?

I have played EVE for years. Anfd while inactive, still have some 6+ months left on sub ( bought and used over years worth of PLEX ).

Sold all my good chars, sold all my gear and lost all ISK to Blink lottery. All because sadness hurt my heart and soul. They killed my EVE and I wanted not of it anymore.

Now they once again give hope. Perhaos they cant or wont fulfill all of their promises. But it is a move in right direction.

Perhaps pew will once again be pew....

Lets hope so, for EVE-s sake. Thst gem of a game shouldnt be discarded easily. Its last true sandbox out there. All rage and sadness aside, EVE was great and it could be great again.

I just want to get into beta and see the game for myself.

BW/EA has made MANY mistakes over the years. From ignoring whole EU to launching only in "selected few" countries.

But what I am expecting is a good game and hopefully a fun timesink.

Originally posted by Khalathwyr

Originally posted by Paske

Actually, I started this thread to let off some steam.

 

BAck in the day, probably before most of you walked, that was something of a norm. The discussion would go back and forth as it does on forums.

 

But this became human rights debate.

Or even wether or not I represent EU gamer community.

Amazing what people conclude from a simple thread...

Well, you  make such a post and start throwing national titles around and making one seem "bad", expect people to take some issue with it. As even one of your EU compatriots stated, while I can sympathize with your ordeal, your presentation needs work.

Anyone that played games for a while ( over 20 years in my case ), knows that US developers ussualy shun EU players / customers.

That doesnt mean I will go JIHAD ON US DEVS ! It means I will do only thing I can really. Complain on forums. It means nothing and changes nothing. But makes me feel better.

Perhaps my presentation does need work, but people need to stop looking "beyond what has been writen". This is a pub forum not words of Budha that need interpretation and years of study.

Actually, I started this thread to let off some steam.

BAck in the day, probably before most of you walked, that was something of a norm. The discussion would go back and forth as it does on forums.

But this became human rights debate.

Or even wether or not I represent EU gamer community.

Amazing what people conclude from a simple thread...

So ... EU servers are still offline. So EU players willplay on US servers. Kinda sucks, but from perspective of devs workingon live game to bug hunt, makes sence.

So US players get invites, but EU do not. Offical statement on friday: Minor glitch in system. Should be fixed soon (tim). So bunch of us chill in forums. Feeling all giddy - will I be that special snow flake in Antartica that gets the invite. Fridays comes and goes. No offical response.

On saturday one of the staff makes a note that since its labour day on monday its highly unliekly we will get any kind of invites. Some nerd rage occurs, but it was mostly people asking for offical: "Sorry we didnt have time to send out invites. But bug should be fixed soon (tm ). EU players will get beta weekend keys on next batch that comes up this friday." Short and simple.

But what does BW / EA do on tuesday, first thing when they come to work ? Delete / Lock threads regarding EU beta weekend info. Start baning people that ask silly questions like - "Why was EU beta weekend thread locked ?"

Rest of us that didnt get ban, we get a warning that any and all posts regarding EU beta weekends will be closed and participants banned. Im sorry but if you sit down and think for a minute.

Im sure you would come up with a better solution then fire and brimstone approach. RA / BW took one very simple aproach - We will shut you up you pesky Euro fags. No pray to whatever God you hold dear that we dont pick Telia again as EU provider. Come US players, you dont want to consorte with likes of Europeans.

To me its like having sex for the first time with one you love ....

The mood has got to be just right. Perhaps some candels, nice diner, slow music on stereo. You aproach the matter lightly and if your woman is in the mood, proceed with pleaasure. if not - well at least you had a nice evening with right mind set. pehaps next time.

Sadly after a while the wine is not chilled, food is just lunch and you have sex when and how you both feel like it. Its still good, but its just not an event of epic proportions. You both know what to expect and how to achieve it.

Even if you find a new lover, chances are it will be experienced one ( who ever dated a virgin doesnt want to go through that drahma again ). So the experience is somewhat different and yet again first few times you take extra stepes, but you both know where it leads and trembling hands on braw are just a distant memory. Shes out of her clothes in mere minutes if not seconds.

MMO-s are much like that. Its hard if not imposible to recreate that feeling of your first MMO experience. You can start a new MMO, everyting seems new, but you allready know what class to take, generaly know what kind of build to do, quests are all logical because, been there done that.

So yes, you could try and make old school MMO. But just like trying "it out" with yet another virgin, it would only spoil your good and fond memories that we all look at through pik glasses of time.

Originally posted by VoIgore

Originally posted by Paske

The campaign allready started.

 

Patch 4.3 has been announced. With some interesting new things - Transmogrification for one, which translates to farming old content to get old gear and then throw piles of gold to make your new gear look like old. Also Deathwing is coming for those that can and still like raiding,

New expansion has been announced for Q1 2012. It seems that Pandaria is coming. Albait its still a rumor, but would not suprise me at all considering all the hype it has from Aprill fools jokes.

Im sure SWTOR will take a good chunk of WOW subs, simply because lots of people want a new game, need a new game. People like me that are looking for a few hours of fun once kids and wife are sleeping. Personaly Im looking forward to SWTOR. In the end it will come to two things - playability and content.

But with SWTOR and GW2 coming out ( and GW2 will not have monthly sub ) it will be interesting to see what will Blizz do. My guess is - wait for a month after release and see how many people resub to WOW after trying SWTOR. Personal experience say that ussualy 20% of player base stays on new game, anything beyond that is great success.

Bottom line, people ussualy like new games enough to sub, but after they reach mid lvl or higher ( there are allways hard core players that want world first max lvl ), there is nothing to do except few dungeons and a raid or two ...

Beta weekends might tell us more, but Im guessing we will only see polished part of the game and 90% still shrouded in myst.

Where's that announcement to be found please?

Announcment might be a strong word - logical conclusion ?

http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/?page=6

http://media.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2011/july/mistsfopandaria.jpg

Also Blue stated that they plan on getting expansions out MUCH faster then it was the case for previous expansions. Im expecting info on this during Blizzcon. BETA testing somewhere around Christmass and release end Q1/early Q2 2012.

The campaign allready started.

Patch 4.3 has been announced. With some interesting new things - Transmogrification for one, which translates to farming old content to get old gear and then throw piles of gold to make your new gear look like old. Also Deathwing is coming for those that can and still like raiding,

New expansion has been announced for Q1 2012. It seems that Pandaria is coming. Albait its still a rumor, but would not suprise me at all considering all the hype it has from Aprill fools jokes.

Im sure SWTOR will take a good chunk of WOW subs, simply because lots of people want a new game, need a new game. People like me that are looking for a few hours of fun once kids and wife are sleeping. Personaly Im looking forward to SWTOR. In the end it will come to two things - playability and content.

But with SWTOR and GW2 coming out ( and GW2 will not have monthly sub ) it will be interesting to see what will Blizz do. My guess is - wait for a month after release and see how many people resub to WOW after trying SWTOR. Personal experience say that ussualy 20% of player base stays on new game, anything beyond that is great success.

Bottom line, people ussualy like new games enough to sub, but after they reach mid lvl or higher ( there are allways hard core players that want world first max lvl ), there is nothing to do except few dungeons and a raid or two ...

Beta weekends might tell us more, but Im guessing we will only see polished part of the game and 90% still shrouded in myst.

Im glad your enjoying the game so far :D

Hopefully you will stick arround long enough to wet your feet in Soverginity 0.0. There can be epic PVP there. While most my comrades enjoy 20-30 man roams in fast ships I love 200+ ppl on battlefield capital ships slug fest. Mayhem, lag, tears, sweat, adrenalin pumping, Fleet commander barking orders in your ear phones....

What makes me mad is EVE is not the game - its when you end up in fleet with unichs. OMG no wolf, we cant attack ! We might get killed ! In order to have fun you need balls, ISK and balls.

On topic of multiple accounts - I came to phase where its not a problem. My alt can make enough money to finance 2 accounts via ISK ( PLEX ) and my loosing ships like candy habit . Takes a while and takes lots of patience but once you get there - EVE is better then most games.

Then you get bored like allways and go play another game for 6 months.

Hokay - we have allmost simular computers and I had same problem. In fact most people do ...

But there is an easy solution to all this, but most people wont litsen and go on their way trying voodoo magi instead of this easy fix.

Anyway  -  FIRST off. On patcher window - click options ( ! ).

Then from that window in left corner you will see option to download textures for certain areas. There is a reason fro this but the tecnical part of the story is not important. Important part is - download textures in area where you are now ! For lvl 20+ ist cca 1Gb of data or more. Normaly game DLs new textures every time you see something new. This is much faster.

Then before you start in patcher use high resolution textures !

Start the game.

Go to settings, video - choose HIGH DETAILS ( this is very important as all other mods are buged and in fact give crappy FPS ). Turn shadows OFF. Dont touch ANYTHING ELSE. Just leave it like that.

Now go and enjoy your game.

40+ FPS in open steppes in front of great wall Khitai.

Oh and BTW Tortage is same as allways. Best part starts after lvl 20 when you go to Khitai and great wall ;)

I started playing cca 10 days after launch.

Read few reviews whih were talking of awsome game that has SO much potential. Bored of other games I went out and bought the damn thing.

Excited as I was enjoyed the game all the way up to lvl 30. Mind you I am a PVE player before all else. PVP is nice frosting on cake, but PVE is what keeps me in game. Anyway - leveling to lvl 30 was fun I have to say even though there werent many quests on the way. Also all quests were the same - kill XY of ZG NPC-s. Get lol reward.

Then lvl 30 hit. And thats when it all went to cr*p house for me ...

Quests are hard to find and you need a guide just to find the scatered all over the world. Also by lvl 30 you get sick and tired of the - kill XY stuff - type of quests.

Somewhere arround that time one month was over and sub you got with the game expired. Lots of people never renewed sub. I would even say most of them. As world was more then half empty even on prime time.

Well I was determined to get to level cap ad enjoy end game content !

Sadly as most of my legion mates were higher lvl then me more and more reports came of what is beyond lvl 40. VOID !

Few instances with easy bosses and the catch phrase to kill it all for me and most of PVE players - boss may or may not drop any loot ! THATS GREAT ! Also you can do an instance once every 24 hours. Which is great since it doesnt reset at fixed time ( like WOW ) but has personal 24h timer. So if you started at 18.00, next day you can start no earlier then 18.01.

Not to mention that later on ( after lvl 40 ) quests are so rare that you treasure them like somjething astounding.

Those of the legion that liked PVP QQ-ed if they were ( like me ) PVP class. Because range can kyte you arround and slowly kill you. Or if they are higher lvl, 2 shot you.

* All in all - for players like me that enjoy PVE aspect more then PVP game is a massive, massive fail. Not enough instances and those that are there ussualy dont give any drops from bosses - at all !

* Leveling is horrible past lvl 20. I got to lvl 38 by pure will alone. After 34 its was mostly grind, grind, grind oh and some more grind ! How can a game after more they a year on market ( Asian market ) not have quests is beyond me. Also quests that have different flavours and parish the thought some story behind it that reveals a bit of history.

* End game is some PVP every 2 hours, few instances that still dont have loot drops and one raid instance that no one really tried because most of the people simply quit the game.

For me Aion is great looking game that is empty of content. It must have been extremley hard to put in quests, instances and all together feeling of progression through out the game. Aion is far from WOW killer, in state that it is now I would say it can hardly kill any MMO Vanguard included.

Been playing EVE for a while now and have to say that hardest part of EVE - is start !

Geting the right race, atributes, background - all of this is important when you first start. Then its the long haul to get lerarning skills up -wich is what generaly what kills most new players.

But what comes after that is apsolutley great ! Especialy if you like PVP.

Oh and - Ivy league - Alliance for new pilots. They will teach new pilots all there is to EVE and in a fun manner.