can I haz your credits plz?

Pats with Manning

Post who & why, or if you just don't give a fig, troll American's Football!!

Or list your team and why!!

why the EA hate?

Cuz they don't have ninja's, pirates and upcoming Pandas in there game haha

Originally posted by smitty0356

Any mmo with a very popular IP always sells boxes to people who will not like the mechanics or interpretation of that IP.  When this happens, the first few months usually shows a decline in total subscriptions.

 

In the past, companies have knee-jerked to this trend, and made drastic changes to try to appeal to the initial masses of players, and this has proven disasterous to the long-term success of the MMO.

 

A prime example of this is MXO, where they had to buff and cater to the huge "neo-clone" population, which alienated everyone that was not a "neo."

 

Problem is, the type of player that is quitting after a month, generally can't be retained long term due to conflicts with mmo mechanics, or key problems with the IP.

 

I hope bioware does not try to cater to the "darth paul's" in an attempt to save thousands of subscribers that will likely quit anyway.

You put MXO and SW in the same paragraph LOL,

Also if you want hardcore pvp and not thempark pvp play UO, Darkfall or even MW3..

SW is more PVE then pvp

Great Job Garry!!

Great post and glad to see some one nearer my age on here lol.

Ever play Moongate? the MUDD back in the day..bout 20 years ago

I think the first WoW clone was the clone wars right?

dude I don't know what game you are playing but Juggies are Hard as heck to kill.

Originally posted by Keogh

Want a idea of how the game its doing?

2 million copies sold. 1.7 million people are still subscribed (credit card or game time card).

2,000,000 boxes sold

      300,000 people  didn't sub  (these must all be MMORPG.com community members)

_____________________________

1,700,000 people sub (and are playing an avg. 4hrs per day)

 

ding

Seems like Bioware & EA are going all out on SW.

Good Job. Keep it up.

Originally posted by Istafein

Originally posted by aligada87

 

   Well after playing almost 2 month of the game, I finally had it.

 

     I have an i7 processor with 16 gigs of ram, 2 gtx 580 sli, and I still get fps problems. Not all the maps of swtor, but certain compact places, like wz, and illum omg lol. I kept wondering if it was my pc, but from what I see from this forum it isn’t my pc at all.

 

     There is also a problem with alderan wz where sometimes the bike doesn't appear, and I even tried resetting my UI. Still no go. My fps in illum would drop to like 15-20 fps and it’s bad when we have big group fights.

 

     The thing is, I have played Tera online, and Blade and Soul (Private server). I can assure you I can play the game at full settings with no issue at all from having 40-50 man PvP raids. See, I could live with this problem, Bioware, but what topped it off for me was when you guys replied in customer service, “It’s not our game it’s your pc”. I mean seriously now, you don't only see me posting but many more people posting the same problems, and you have the nerve to say it’s my pc.

 

     I love the game. I really do. The PvE is amazing and the PvP is fun, but the way you guys handle things, ignore people on forums, and still continue to say to this day that "it’s not our system, it’s yours" - well it shows how you guys really handle things. Also what is worse is, with in-game support, you would think at since you guys messed up the game so badly, that you would at least have good in-game support, but you guys can't even provide that.

 

     For example (this is not my fault btw), I bought a champion PvP weapon and it clearly showed the item was main hand weapon. I remember it too that I didn’t make a mistake because I made sure that the 2 PvP weapons I wanted was the only one showing. Well guess what happened? When I bought the item, it somehow registered as an off-hand, when it clearly states it is main hand. I’m a Sith Juggernaut. What am I going to do with an off-hand weapon? The Champion/Battlemaster bag is already irritating to get, and what’ more irritating is the loot drop it gives.

 

     Anyways I was so excited when you guys replied with the protocol droid saying list the item you need replaced, name of server, name of toon etc... but then leaving me hanging with the ticket opened for about 3 and a half weeks, is just crazy. I still have no response to this day, and it clearly shows again that you (Bioware) don’t care about the customers.

 

     I know this probably doesn't mean anything to you guys, but I am speaking for the rest of the people,

WHO ARE GOING THROUGH PROBLEMS IN THE GAME, AND FOR FUTURE PLAYERS WHO WANT TO JOIN SWTOR.

There is no point on going through this painful experience with Bioware. To sell an unfinished product to customers is just not fair at all. An example of unfinished product is FFXIV, but at least FFXIV made a U-Turn and actually fixed the problems.

 

     Now from what I hear they are doing very good, and are releasing 1 of the biggest patches people are looking forward to. The difference is FFXIV customer service responds to the community. When they say they will do something, they do it.

 

     Anyways for the players who are still experiencing problems in-game, and for future, gamers who are looking into SWTOR, that don’t know much about how the game is, don’t be fooled. Read this post, and if it isn’t convincing enough, read other post, save your 60-120 bucks plus monthly and really think about what your about to do lol.

 

     I really thought I could stay with Bioware, and play through SWTOR’s problems, but jeez, at least provide us with better customer service. You guys already messed up the game, give us something.

 

     Anyways GL to all who are playing the game, and to people who are playing the game with no problem, I really hope it continues for you guys. Just wanted to share what I posted to SWTOR Bioware. Sorry my English writing isn’t my strongest suit lol, so don’t judge it :( feel free to leave comments  

 

I cleaned it up for ya, OP, in case you wanna edit your post so peoople can read it.

But yeah, I know a lot of people at school that are having the same problems as you. I'm glad I decided to wait on buying this one.

  Purple drop for this guy.  Nice to see a random act of kindness

Originally posted by JudgeUK

The only way to get the message across, vote with the wallet.

 

    ^^^ this x 100

Originally posted by Rataplan

Originally posted by Hrica

Originally posted by Alot

Could you post your rig?

 My cpu is a i7, got 4g of DDR3 ram and a ATI 4800 HD. 

I know that my card needs replaced but are the requirments that high on SW to have disconection and chop all the time?

It is important to specify the type of the core. Is it I7-800 series or 900 for example because there is a huge difference between them when it comes to accessing your RAM.

I went to check on your graphics card on amd.com and it does not seem to exist. they have 4830, 4850 and 4870. I could be wrong because I only checked amd.com.

I'm just trying to say if people ask to post your rig you need to be very specific otherwise people can't really help out.

 

It's a 4850. I had to get the box out of the closet.

In the original post I just ran the dxdiag command and it said 4800 series

Originally posted by BadSpock

To Zary - no not yet.

To Hrica - I got it on sale for 150 after rebate and a gift card I had - was an amazing deal. Card was about 230 base price though at the time.

I don't know how true this is, but I've always heard that AMD processors and ATI cards play nice, and Intel processors and Nvidia cards play nice - so if you have an i7 you should look into a Nvidia card > AMD.

560 is the comparable card in performance to the 6870 if I remember correctly.

Should be about 200 these days? Maybe a little more/less?

Also RAM is super cheap these days - you can pretty easily get 4gb to bring you up to 8gb total for like.. 30 bucks?

Obviously depends on your mobo and OS though.

Hey thanks, I will do that when taxes come back

Originally posted by BadSpock

AMD BE 3.2 quad, 6870 1gb, 8gb DDR3 1333 and the game runs great.

I would imagine, OP, that YES, that 4800 is far far too old to expect to be able to play the game at a reasonable frame rate.

 

My laptop supposedly met the minimum requirements, 2.1 ghz dual core, 4gb ram, ati mobile something video card - even on lowest of low settings the game churns out 2-3 FPS - completely unplayable.

 

what would be a good card to replace it that would not break my wallet?

Originally posted by Alot

Could you post your rig?

 My cpu is a i7, got 4g of DDR3 ram and a ATI 4800 HD. 

I know that my card needs replaced but are the requirments that high on SW to have disconection and chop all the time?

Hi everyone,

As promised, we wanted to address some of the hot topics in our community right now: FPS (frames per second) and other performance issues. We’ve spent a lot of time reading the forum threads on these topics, and the client team has analyzed many, many performance logs. They’ve also met over the past few weeks to discuss how to best address these topics, and now we want to open up the conversation with you.

Avi Mintz, the Associate Project Manager for the client engineer team, has digested some information together into the post below. Over to Avi:

Hi everyone!

As Joveth mentioned above, my name is Avi Mintz and I’m the Associate Project Manager for the client engineering team.

Developing an MMORPG of this scale and detail means we must support a wide spectrum of performance-impacting scenarios, varied hardware compatibility issues and other unique challenges. Input from our community goes a long way to bolster our investigation efforts and narrow down elusive resolutions to these problems.

To that end, we’re hoping that we can start an open dialogue with you, the community; some of you have called out for this, others have taken the time to publish write-ups, and we are looking forward to collaborating with you to make this game a fantastic journey and a memorable experience for all involved.

Please remember, we read the forums and identify actionable items as often as possible, as well as receiving reports from the Community team on a regular basis. Although we can’t always respond with the frequency or immediacy that you might like, whenever an issue is raised to us, a developer is alerted and assigned to the issue. We prioritize to ensure that the identified issues that affect the largest number of players are dealt with first, but we are always working on whatever we have outstanding.

In this post, I’ll get a little more detailed into our client preferences and suggest some settings changes that may help you. In the future, we’ll update you on our optimization plans as we address known issues. Now that you know a little bit more about our processes, let’s get started.


Game settings and what they mean for performance

Any given PC can bottleneck in a few different locations (processing power, available memory, graphics processing power, etc.). While changing graphics settings can have an impact on any or all of these, finding a ‘sweet spot’ for your system might take a bit of experimentation. Such experimentation is probably best approached by turning everything to ‘Low’, and then turning various features up selectively and noting the effect. We’ve broken down some of the less straightforward options for you here to give you some insight into the workings of our rendering options.

Min-spec shaders

• The min-spec shader option allows faster rendering, at a reduced quality. This option also turns shadows and bloom off.

Shadows

• Our shadow options are High / Low / None, where:

1.      The ‘High’ option renders full shadows

2.      The ‘Medium’ option renders only ‘blob’ shadow discs under characters.

3.      The ‘None’ option removes even the ‘blob’ shadows.

As you might expect, your choice of shadow setting can heavily impact frame-rate. High shadows will be, comparatively, much more taxing on your system.

Textures

• Our texture options are High / Low. We are planning an additional setting for character textures, closer to the quality seen in cinematic scenes, which is under development right now.

Anti-Aliasing

• Our anti-aliasing options are High / Low / Off. Depending on your system, these options represent different levels of jagged edge smoothing.
• Anti-aliasing is one of our more system-taxing features, and we do not recommend using it when running a video card with less than 1GB of memory. Keep in mind that the ‘performance cost’ is greater at higher resolutions.
• Note: anti-aliasing is temporarily disabled for AMD 6900 series cards, due to severe graphical artifacts. We are working with AMD to resolve this bug, and we will re-enable the option for the 6900 series as soon as possible.

Resolution and Window mode

• Window mode options are Fullscreen / Fullscreen (windowed) / Windowed, where:

1.      ‘Fullscreen’ is what we refer to as ‘Fullscreen exclusive mode’. This option gives you the best frame-rate of the three, but it comes with a trade-off of having to reinitialize the display if you tab away from the game and back.

2.      ‘Fullscreen (windowed)’ is really just a borderless window that stretches to fill your screen. You lose out on the slight performance gain of ‘Fullscreen’, but you can now tab back to the program seamlessly.

3.      ‘Windowed’ is as straightforward as you might expect. If you feel that you’ve gotten the best frame-rate out of this setting, keep in mind that it all comes back to how much resolution you are prepared to sacrifice.

Minimum spec, recommended spec and performance

Error Code 7

Error code 7 is our way of reporting a game initialization failure – essentially, the game failed to run. There has been some speculation about this message being a ‘gate’ blocking players based on their system, but that is not quite accurate. Here are some situations that will result in an error code 7:

• Missing technology that would cause an unplayable scenario. To be more specific, we require SSE3, introduced in late 2004.
• Missing PlatformInfo.dll file (part of the SWTOR client).
• Failure to create a Direct3D device – usually caused by an absent or outdated graphics card driver.

Note that this factor is not related to system processing capabilities, but rather fundamental system architecture (e.g. a 2011 netbook CPU might be able to run SWTOR while a 2004 desktop CPU might not).

If you’re receiving error code 7, but your system should be up to the task of running SWTOR, please contact us through Customer Service with the email tagline ’Error Code 7‘. We have introduced additional logging in patch 1.1.0 that can help us diagnose and pinpoint the source of failure.

Low FPS in the fleets, warzones and Ilum

We’re very aware of the frame-rate degradation that even top-notch systems experience in these gameplay scenarios. We’ve taken measures to control the overall impact that character-heavy scenarios can have on system performance, but there is always more we can do. We are constantly investigating and optimizing, and we are in the process of making changes to the fleets that have hopefully yielded some improvement.

Some of you have pointed out that your GPU is not being fully utilized when in these types of situations; we have found that character-heavy situations like these are usually limited by the CPU, not by rendering, so this makes sense.

Other changes you can make that will help improve performance:

• We’ve read that some mobile graphics cards might not appropriately set their performance profile when running SWTOR. You can correct this by going to your graphics control panel and manually setting up a profile.
• Disabling Windows Aero can also improve performance slightly.
• And, of course, shutting down background programs can only help.

Client crashes

Our data says that, when measured as an average across all players, crashes during SWTOR gameplay are relatively rare. That being said, there might be some users that have the perfect storm of hardware, settings or activities that provoke repeated crashes in a way that we can practically diagnose and fix. If you experience consistent crashes, or if you know of a consistently reproducible one, please take a visit to this thread and post your information there – we’re always looking for more issues like this to fix, and increasing SWTOR stability will always be a top priority for our team.

We recently messaged that we fixed a frame-rate degradation problem that occurred when shadows were on ‘High’; this fix also greatly increased stability on 32-bit systems.

System failures

If your system consistently shuts down unexpectedly, please go to this thread and post your information. Some of you have already done this, and your posts have been extremely helpful. We’ve analyzed all the information you’ve provided so far, and this is what we can say…

• SWTOR has the capacity to heavily utilize your system. If you are running the game with high graphics settings, this is especially true. System flaws or inadequacies that might not be evident when idling or playing other games could possibly be exposed when you are running SWTOR, especially in moments that put extra pressure on your system (PVP, Operations, etc.) To name a few things you should look out for:

1.      Ensure that your power supply is not failing and that it supplies enough juice to power your system.

2.      For temperature considerations, it’s also worth checking that the power supply fan is working properly. Also ensure that your PC case is properly ventilated and your airflow is unobstructed.

3.      Ensure that your PC is clean and your system is not clogged with dust and dirt.

4.      We recommend taking appropriate precautions (monitoring and cooling) if you are overclocking your hardware. Our advice is to dial things back to the manufacturer’s recommended settings until your system failures are resolved.

• Blue Screens are displayed when Windows encounters a critical error. Errors of this nature are usually hardware or driver related.

1.      We’ve provided some information here in the CS forums about ways to narrow down and identify the root cause of a given error. Windows tends to log this information, and those logs are a good point to begin an investigation.

For every visit you’ve made to the Forums to post constructively or inform us of an issue – thank you. Your DXDiags help us (even if you do forget to use spoiler tags sometimes!!) and we hope you’ll continue to work with us to make SWTOR great.

Joveth Gonzalez | Associate Online Community Manager
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ok I got this from the Offical forums..Am I reading it wrong or is my ..pretty good rig just not "good enough" or do they have a valid claim?

LOL MMORPG.com making there own troll thread  woo whooo!!!!

Originally posted by SuperFoXDiE

Hey guys!  My guild went out for some world pvp in Illum the other day, so I decided to take a crack at making a fraps video out of it.  This is my first attempt at using fraps or sony vegas pro, or uploading to youtube in general!  I think everything turned out pretty well, and I had a lot of fun making it.

 

Unfortunately the video is a "bit" laggy due to the insane amount of players on screen at once, but this is more of a test run than anything else.  Just want to get a feel for what people like, and ways I might be able to improve for future videos.  Thanks for reading, and I hope you enjoy the vid!  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3xYyYKkiR0

 Great job bro

Originally posted by dubyahite
A note to those complainig about this. It was a pretty big deal and I'm glad they fixed it.


Our entire raid got disconnected the other day In The middle of a boss fight. Logged back in quickly, only to have wiped the entire raid. We were pretty pissed.


I'm glad they did an emergency fix. It happened a LOT in flashpoints and operations which is infuriating.

          ^^^^^