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Originally posted by J0kerr1
Just the facts....people *democrats* are not willing to look at the facts because they want to see Jews killed, America lose the war, and Bush fail.

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Originally posted by Anofalye

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Originally posted by ThomasHolm
Europe is not on the same continent as the war. The Iraq war and the Israeli-Lebanon conflict are both in Asia.

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Turkie want to join the EU and has a border with both, the EU and the Leban.  Leban is on the Mediterranean sea as well as Israel.

Israel and Leban where part of the Roman Empire while many members of the EU where never.  This conflict is extremely close to EU.

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Originally posted by J0kerr1

I have finally figured out why this debate is going no where.

1. There are a ton of anti-Jew people out there.

2. There are a ton of anti-American people out there.

3. There are a ton of anti-Bush people out there.

Add them together = self destructive retarted Democrats.

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Originally posted by Juiceman
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12. Iraq/Saddam was going to replace their American dollars with Euros.  Maybe causing other countries in the region to follow causing weaking in U.S. economy.

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Originally posted by J0kerr1

Iraq War was started for 21 reasons. Many people don't know that. They think it was just one. And that one, by the way, Saddaim (spelling) himself thought he had weapons. Here are the 11 Bush mentioned in his speeches.

1. To Prevent the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction

2. Regime Change

3. Further the war on the Terror

4. Becasue of Iraq's violations of UN resolutions

5. Because of Saddam Hussein's evil dictatorship and actions

6. Becasue of a lack of weapons inspections in Iraq

7. To liberate Iraq

8. Because of Iraq's links to al Qaeda

9. Because Iraq was an imminent threat

10. To disarm Iraq

11. Hussein was a threat to the region

The problem I have with people looking at the past of the region is that they are using it to justify bad actions. They are saying that terrorists have a right to attack and kil Jews because of the past. Thats not what history should be used for. It should be used to learn not justify evil.

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Still don't see anything in that quote about displacement of citizens. You made that up. I just read through the convention again, it isn't in there. Only some stuff about letting them evacuate if they want to.

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Originally posted by Fariic

American extremists dont strap bombs to thier themselves and walk into the middle of a crowded market full of innocent people.  American extremists dont kidnap civillians and soldiers and use them in an attept to free other extremists to that they have more men to strap bombs to themselves.

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I am not familiar with any Geneva convention against the displacement of citizens, If you don't mind, I'd like to call you out on that one. I've had a little browse on Google but come up blank, any chance of a link so that I might educate myself better.

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Originally posted by baff
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Sneaking back on topic I have actually been quite impressed by Israeli discipline and targetting so far in this engagement. I'm not sure how long it will last but I thought they had recognisably not lost the plot so far. Of course this may degenerate over time, especially with the inclusion fo reservist troops at the frontline.

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Originally posted by baff

While it is instinctive for him to place his own life and the lives of his comrades above those of strangers in the immediacy of danger, to actually do so without discipline puts himself and his comrades at greater risk in the long term.

As you rightly point out this oges against obvious instinct which is why we have extra tight rules of engagement and disciplinary systems outside of the military chain of command.

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