All Posts by Lord_Elros

As of yet I havent played this game. However, from what i've heard from friends and what truth i've peiced together from all the bull on these forums, there is pve in the game. You never "have" to touch pvp. However, the pve level cap of 40 is really only half the game, as there are 40 renound ranks to be earned from pvp/rvr. These ranks will give you much more character customisation and make you much stronger. Furthermore, while i'm sure there is some end game pve content, the game was designed to be very pvp centric, thus if you never touch pvp you may feel as if the game is very shallow and without content.

Hope that helps.

I would sudgest trying a new instalation. Completely uninstall it, and reinstall it. I have a couple friends that have had probalem with WAR so far, mind u not the ones you are experiencing. However, there is no harm in trying and it may have good results.

I would sugest going with a ATI 4850 over the 9800 GT. They will generaly outperform this Nvidia card.

I've been considering the Witch Hunter as my startign class for WAR, and I was wondering how it satcks up in PVE, and more specificaly RVR. If anyone who have been involved in the beta could shead some light on this I would be extremely greatful.

WOAH!! Just in case your gonam go buy all this stuff soon your in luck. Intel just dropped their quad core prices today!! Yopu camn now get the Q9550 for the same price as the Q9450 was before!!! http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115041

Originally posted by tuzalov

Canadian Dollars

 

Asus P5E3 Deluxe 327.00   www.canadacomputers.com/index.php

Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 370.00  www.canadacomputers.com/index.php

XFX GeForce 9800GTX 300.00  www.canadacomputers.com/index.php

Corsair XMS3 DHX 4GB 229.00  www.canadacomputers.com/index.php

OCZ GameXStream 700W Power Supply 130.00  www.canadacomputers.com/index.php

Thermaltake Soprano DX VE7000BWS 128.00  www.canadacomputers.com/index.php

This isn't bad advise. The quad core processor in this system is probably the best quad core in terms of bang for your buck. Even better, you can pick it up for $40 cheaper on Newegg.

Now looking at the motherboard... This is a good quality board, however quite expensive. If you are lookign at purchasing an enthusiast board suck as this, then dish out an extra $30 and pick up the ASUS P5E3 Premium. It has the newer X48 chipset and should show a nice improvement in performance and stability. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131276

As for the case, I dont really like many thermaltakes. They are ussually cheaper quality than other brands. Look at the Antec P182 or Antec 900 for example. They are both good quality cases in the same price range.

The ram is a great choice. It's a good quality product and performs great. You can pick that up on Newegg for the same price. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145200

Here's the big problem. I would stay away from the 9800GTX and definately get a 4870 with GDRR5. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814103061 These have much better performace and are actually a tad cheaper.

Other than that it looks solid. Those power supplies are solid. Any questions let me know.

To start off, cloning a cumputer isn't nessesary, and may not be the best idea. Many large stores sell computers that are built around common misconseptions, advertising only certain parts in order to maximize profits.

Regardless, the first question you need to ask yourself is how long are you willing to wait before you buy your system. I ask because intel will be releasing Nehalem, their new proccesor, within the next few months. If you buy a system now, you will not be able to upgrade it in the future without basically buying a whole new system.

If you dont want to wait, here are some recomendations... Stay away from Vista. While some will defend it, it's not worth the problems it will bring you. 4 gigs of ram is nice, and current ram is inexpensive, so it is very obtainable. Problem is windows XP wont recognise 4 gigs, and in reality it is not nessasary,  2 gigs should do just fine. The 4870, as mentioned above, is a great choice for a midrange card. Its' price to performace ratio is great. Now if you want a killer card, the consider 4970X2 that will be released next week.

Quad cores have limited use today, as many applications and games do not take advantage of teh extra 2 cores. However those that do will see a big performace hike. While it's impossible to know for sure, I would say that within a year or two mostly all games and apps will be written for 4 or more cores.

Do not cheap out on a power supply. It was already said, but the last thing you wont is crappy power feed. Also, dont get a crap motherboard. You dont need a 500 buck mosnter thats 400% overpriced, but pick up a good mainstream board.

I just wrote this up quick. If you want sudgestions for specific parts or if you have any questions feel free to message me.

Also, perhaps you could post some of the system specs you have seen, so that we can see more of what your aiming for.

To start off, if you can, I would strongly recommend waiting for Intel to launch Nehalem. If the leached benchmarks are real then it has a solid performance increase over the current Intel CPU's. Furthermore, as mentioned above it is a completely new chip, and does use a new socket. So buying a motherboard now means you wont be able to upgrade your system in the future without getting many new components.

Next, dont buy the GTX280. The 4870 is more than enough for most mmo's, and you can buy 2 for crossfire for near the same price as 1 GTX280. Furthermore, ATI will be releasing the 4870X2 next week. So if you want to spend the extra cash, this card seems to beat the GTX280 straight up.

A heads up, if you do wait for Nehalem, you will need DDR3 ram, which is considerably more expensive than current DDR2 ram.

As per the power supply, the best brand hands down is PC Power and Cooling. No other company comes close to the quality they provide, however you do pay a premium for that superiority.

It was late when I wrote this, so I made it breaf. Any questions feel free to message me.

What he probably means is the difference between the displays specs and such. If your laptop display is far superior than the other one, then things will look worse. However, if your other display is better, you could potentially get a better image.

Define resonable price and I'll post a couple suggestions lol.

Ok well the big question here is will you consider building this yourself? Or are you looking for a pre built system?

Depend on the answer, suggestions will be very different, so I wont go into any of them right now.

On the contrary, overcloking a cpu is perfectly fine if you know what your doing. If you havent done it before, a good guide and much care should lead to a succesful experience. Regardless, I would recomend the E8400 over the E6800, that is if you are looking at the dual core proc. If you want a quad core I would say go for the Q9300. It's a bit more than the Q6600, but offers a nice performance booste, and a few features not supported on the Q6600. At the moment, the gaming performance of the E8400 is greater than that of the Q9300 in most games. Some are starting to make use of quad cores, but most games remain un-optimised for them. Until the day this changes the core duos will likely hold an advantage.

A comment on your graphic cards. If you can I would suggest waiting until mid June for the release of both ATI's and Nvidia's new cards. They both promise quite a large jump in performance, and should not be any more expensive then todays cards.

If you have any questions or want help with your build, feel free to pm me.

One is all you need. In fact you can not install both as they will conflicts and cause problems on you system. You can only have one anti virus on you at a time.

Originally posted by Burli

Originally posted by Lord_Elros

Ok, first off you should definately go with the Core 2 Duo E8400. Quad cores are nice for multithreading apps, but at the moment a dual core with a higher clockspeed will offer you better gaming performance. Plus the dual core will overclock alot better than the quad would.

As for the power supply, 1200 W is pushing it. You more than likely wont need this, unless you add two or 3 video cards. However, after looking at a couple reviews it seems that the power supply you have chosen is quite good, and should leave enough room for future upgrades. It's up to you, but I suggest if you have the extra cash to dish out, go ahead. I've learned not to skimp out when shopping for a power supply lol.

Next up, the video card. If your looking for top notch performance, and I'm presuming you are, you should probably go with teh Nvidia GTX 280. The reason I say probably is because none of the cards have been released yet so their actuall performance is unknown. The one thing to note is that if you ever want to run a Nvidia SLI configuration (2 or 3 Nvidia graphics cards) you will need a Nvidia chipset. Right now the motherboard you have chosen is running an Intel chipset. Now the board is Kick Ass dont get me wrong, just a heads up if you had considered doing that in the future. As for release dates, the Nvidia cards are releasing 1 day after the ATI. I believe the dates are June 16th and 17th.

Ram is good. Great advise xxthecorexx. 

There is one last thing I think you should STRONGLY consider changing. that would be your chosen case. Honestly the one you have picked is more or less one of those gimmick cases. It's not great quality, doesn't have great cooling performance and ins't very quiet. Personaly I think it looks ugly to. Regadless, if you want advise on a different case, the antec cases that xxthecorexx stated are good. As well you could check out some Coolermaster cases such as the Cosmos S or the Stackers. Silverstone makes good cases and it's hard to go wrong with one of theirs. Another good case is the Gigabyte 3D Aurora 570, although it has a different look to it.

Hope this helps out.  

 

 

 

 

www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core2quad-q6600_8.html#sect0

I dont think i need to write more .. and your case is generaly rated 8 on 10 average on most testing  site , good airflow and very good build quality are is + ( funny what people can write on forum ) .
Is negative points are there

www.hardcoreware.net/reviews/review-280-7.htm

You know phenom 9850 is not a bad idea but even if it compete with the Q6600 for performance , the 9850 is more expensive a little , hard to overclock and it burn a lot of juice compare to Q6600 or E8400 .

P.s the first ram your posted the G.SKILLis one of the best for overclocking , one of the most valuable ram on the market .

Well I'm gald to see you actually read all the post before throwing in your litle comment.  First off, the bloody case I was talking about in the above section was the:

---XCLIO A380PLUS-BK Fully Black High Gloss Finish 1.0mm SECC/ ABS ATX Full Tower Computer Case

If you had actually bothered to look at this thread properly you wouldn't have missed that. Secondly the Thermaltake armour IS a half rate case, as with many of their cases. for roughly the same amount you can get a case of much higher quality, and it wont look like a peice of shit. But that is of course subjective.

Furthermore, I have to ask why you would come out and say that the Phenom is not a bad idea, but wait, it sucks compared to the core 2 duo. A little redundant dont you think?

And last but certaintly not least... Your nice link to x-bit that proves alot considering it's the Core 2 Duo E6850 they are reviewing, and not the Core 2 Duo E8400 that Mysil has on his list. I'm glad that you are able to make a post that proves that you are incapable of reading a thread before posting in it. The E8400 posseses a nice performance booste over the E6800. with that being said, quad cores can be nice, but produce alot more heat. Mysil, if you were going to go with liquid cooling a quad core might be a good idea, as you could push it quite a bit farther. However if you were to consider this I would suggest looking into the Core 2 Quad Q9300. It is faster than the Q6600 as it uses the new archatecture, and because of that, holds several other advantages.   http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core2quad-q9300.html   (btw x-bit.com is a great site for anyone thats wondering)

Well, just thought I'd clear that up... ( funny what people can write on forum ) .

Ok, first off you should definately go with the Core 2 Duo E8400. Quad cores are nice for multithreading apps, but at the moment a dual core with a higher clockspeed will offer you better gaming performance. Plus the dual core will overclock alot better than the quad would.

As for the power supply, 1200 W is pushing it. You more than likely wont need this, unless you add two or 3 video cards. However, after looking at a couple reviews it seems that the power supply you have chosen is quite good, and should leave enough room for future upgrades. It's up to you, but I suggest if you have the extra cash to dish out, go ahead. I've learned not to skimp out when shopping for a power supply lol.

Next up, the video card. If your looking for top notch performance, and I'm presuming you are, you should probably go with teh Nvidia GTX 280. The reason I say probably is because none of the cards have been released yet so their actuall performance is unknown. The one thing to note is that if you ever want to run a Nvidia SLI configuration (2 or 3 Nvidia graphics cards) you will need a Nvidia chipset. Right now the motherboard you have chosen is running an Intel chipset. Now the board is Kick Ass dont get me wrong, just a heads up if you had considered doing that in the future. As for release dates, the Nvidia cards are releasing 1 day after the ATI. I believe the dates are June 16th and 17th.

Ram is good. Great advise xxthecorexx. 

There is one last thing I think you should STRONGLY consider changing. that would be your chosen case. Honestly the one you have picked is more or less one of those gimmick cases. It's not great quality, doesn't have great cooling performance and ins't very quiet. Personaly I think it looks ugly to. Regadless, if you want advise on a different case, the antec cases that xxthecorexx stated are good. As well you could check out some Coolermaster cases such as the Cosmos S or the Stackers. Silverstone makes good cases and it's hard to go wrong with one of theirs. Another good case is the Gigabyte 3D Aurora 570, although it has a different look to it.

Hope this helps out. 

Ok, here's a few things. For starters, I dont really like Thermaltake cases, they are ussually cheaply made, but that's not a big deal. More importantly, you should definately be going with the intel processor. Im no fanboy, but atm their processors are far superior to amd's. that would mean you need to choose a new motherboard to support an intel proc. 

As for the ram, I mus admit I'm not overly fimilair with G. Skill. I have hear mixed reviews about their products so I wont comment on that. However, 8 gigs is overkill. No windows os can even use that much, with the exception of vista 64 bit, but even using this the performance booste will be slim to none. 4 gigs is more than enough.

I would think that you may also need to add another hardrive for data storage. you can get a 500 gig harddrive with good performance for relatively cheap.

Just writing this up quick, so last comment. Your video card. I dont know how soon you're looking at having this system by, but the new cards from Nvidia and ATI are comming out June 16th and 17th. If you can wait that long I would strongly sudjest it. The Nvidia GTX 280, the high end card, is suppose to have an amazing performance booste over the 9800 GX2. Furthermore, it will probably go around the same price.

Anyways, just a quick comment. Send me a pm and i'll give you a hand if you'd like.

Oh ya, with the intel proc you shouldn't have any trouble getting it to 3.4gz on air cooling. In fact you can probably go quite a bit farther.

Just a heads up. if you change the case Hp will likely refuse to honour any warantee.

Two things. For starters, I presume by your comment about the cpu that you are not building this yourelf? Second, can u post a link to where ever you are purchasing these parts or the computer as a whole. I am not fimiliar with New Zealand prices and stores, however In the states, or Canada I know you can get a much better computer for the same price of about $1100 usd. Just post or send me a pm, and i'll give ya a hand.

Obviously there is alot of different views on this game... as it stands I'm not quite ready to throw my money blindly into it. I would love to give it a try so I can decide whether or not I'd enjoy playing this game.

PharosTomb@hotmail.com

thx a ton.

Originally posted by Magicite

Go to bestbuy or circuit city. Purchase card. Put in computer. Boot up. Stable when playing game? If yes, then your fine.  Dependent upon your build, you may not need a new power supply. If you do, you can just take the video card back to bestbuy or circuit city. Which is the great thing about buying in a brick and mortar store. Also, if you're the one paying the power bill, you'll want to get a power supply that has an energy efficieny rating of greater than 80%.  Keep a look out on www.slickdeals.com for cpu's and graphic cards.

A lot of people may tell you other things, but your best bet is a trial and error situation.

Ok budy, are you serious!! This may be the most retarded thing i've read on the hardware section of these forums. Ya, if this was the last case senerio with no other options, then maybe. But come on, you cant actually think that this is the best way to choose a card. Look up the power ratings and actually power requirements for the card. I garentee there will be multiple reviews listing them within a quick google search. Moreover, with best buy's esteemed warantee record, do you realy want to take the chance on reterning a used compoter component?