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Cheapskates detected on this thread lmao.

ROFL These news mean we are going to have all the silly bitter people bitching and moaning for years to come on websites like this.

EA must be pretty happy about this. Lots of free advertising since it's obvious that getting voted worst company in America only brings big bucks into their pockets.

Well played EA, and by the way, I have no problems sending more money your way.

Originally posted by Aragon100

Originally posted by Kshahdoo

 

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Originally posted by Aragon100

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Originally posted by tristanryan

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Originally posted by Burntvet No. This game is nothing like Eve, and to even mention it in the same breath is an insult. This game is another pathetic effort from a pathetic indie developer, launched at least a year too soon (again). Eve is 10X the game DFUO will ever be on its best day. Worth $40 +$15/mo? Only if you want to pay for continued development of a half finished game. Worth for a game no where near ready for release? No Way.

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Few facts for ya, as im an eve player as well.   1. Eve, 10+ years ago, was also launched by an "indie" developer, and if not still hasnt been too many years, are still "indie". 2. I said similar. Its a sandbox with harsh consequences on death with losing player made goods crafted in a player economy. How is this not similar to EvE? Ill wait. Thanks for reading!    

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To be a sandbox you need some sandbox elements wont you?

 

Too bad DFUW have just about none. 

A better comparable game is quake.

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As a 6 years EVE veteran I can say - go and play EVE, it's exactly for such carebears and blobbers as you.

EVE with it's worthless PvP? Why would i like to play that? It's more fun to watch paint dry.

If you played UO felucca mode, you know the real sandbox, for almost +10 years as i did then you have some demands on what you play.

DFUW have about 50% of promised content and that isnt good enough. We were lied to. Just removed my subscription and you know what it felt very good.

Now i just have to wait for Richard Garriott's next game SotA which actually might bring back UO felucca. Alpha starts end of 2013.

https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/

 

I have the feeling at the end of 2013 we'll be reading another "we were lied to" statement on these forums lol.

I couldn't care less what IGN gave to Defiance. I have always played games and decided for myself if they are good enough and provide the entertainment I am looking for.

In the case of Defiance, I found the game to be rather simple, after all it's mainly just a shooter, but it's a fun shooter.

It's also not the only game I play so my shooting sessions there are always welcome for a change of pace.

As stated before, I decide for myself, and I feel sorry for those who follow advice of morons on the internet like Angry Joe or gaming sites like IGN or MMORPG.

Good for you OP, but my opinion about GW2 still hasn't changed.

 I still think it's a shallow and mediocre game with horrendous storylines, and even worse voice acting. How do I know that ? My son still plays a bit, but I won't break his little heart telling him how I feel about it lol so I'll just go and mind my own business and play something I enjoy.  

When the final product is live, I'll play it and if I don't find it that entertaining, I'll just move on.

I suggest you do the same. It's just another videogame.

Is this living story just another gimmick ?

I played GW2 in beta and the story is among the worst I've seen in AAA MMOs I've played in the last 8-9 years.

Add the horrendous dialogue and voice overs, and the super cheap and poor character cutscenes that were probably forced on Anet by NC Soft in preparation for the Asian launch of the game.

There were many other things that turned me off about GW2, but the story is a total failure, and now they're advertising a "living story" ?

Was there ever one to begin with ?

Seriously Anet, you should really start considering spending some more money in hiring real writers and actors for your games. Some people don't even bother about stories and voice acting in MMOs, but if you decided to attempt to present one to your audience. try a little bit harder next time because your current efforts in GW2 scream AMATEUR.

Originally posted by Raekon

Originally posted by Mdpats
Of course they are still supporting the game. If they weren't they would be throwing away lots of whatever money they put into it.

I've submitted support tickets and get responses the very next day

Happy you got lucky with that.

I only checked back now to see what happened to this thread and to confirm that I will indeed uninstall the client now.

It is the second marz and I still got no replies from their support upon my issue.

The weakest and worst support I ever experienced in a company/game and I have tested and played over 400+ mmos so far (in two betas again right now).

Truly sad what they are doing with their customers and too bad for a game with a lot of potential.

So what exactly are they doing to their customers that is truly sad ? I've been a paying customer for 3 years in AoC and have never had any issues with the game or with customer support. Even now that Funcom is going through heavy restructuring, they have answered all my feedback emails promptly in both AoC and TSW within 48 hours. Not sure about AO because I haven't logged in for a while.

So assuming that your claims are true, I think it's clear you are a very unlucky customer and definitely not the norm (people in my guild have never talked in chat about any serious problems with the game or CS), but I wouldn't discard that you're just trolling either.

Originally posted by h0urg1ass

This game always has had the best graphics in the MMO industry.  That has never been the issue.  The issue with AoC is that it was released far too early and never recovered.  Then they fired one of the most innovative game designers in the industry and replaced him with an incompetent schmuck who won't listen to the dwindling remainder of players left in the game.

Dragon's Spine isn't even a full expansion.  When we got RotG it came with four new areas, dozens of new quests, armor, weapons, mounts, introduced critigation mechanic and added an entirely new leveling branch so that current 80's could continue to progress their characters.  Sure RotG was grindy as hell, but the 6 mans and the new raids were both amazing.

This joke of an expansion doesn't even offer 1/20th of what the last real expansion offered and that was years ago.  YEARS AGO.  Instead of spending their R&D time making AoC the game it always should have been, they instead started work on TSW which flopped harder than a sea bass in the mohave desert.

Now they're restructuring the entire company.  They've layed off all of their dev teams, hired new dev teams, and closed all but one office in North Carolina.  Then they dropped a press release announcing that ONE dev team would support all THREE of their current MMO's.  So yeah, it's "man the lifeboats" time if you're playing any of their three games, cause you won't see new shit in them for years after this.

I see you are one big misinformed troll. That innovative game designer you refer to is also the man who lied to players and company execs and released the game in an unfinished state claiming it was ready. Guess what ? I appreciate what that "incompetent schmuck" did for the game when he took over and at least he has managed to keep the game alive.

About Dragon's Spine, of course it is not a full expansion. It was never meant to be. Craig clearly said it would be the next adventure pack like the Turan pack, which obviously you know nothing about. The new adventure packs will always contain less content than a regular expansion but they are priced accordingly. Turan pack was roughly $12.

After last summer survey, Craig said the adventure packs would be released in parts so that players wouldn't have to wait a long time to experience new content and furthermore, he said the packs would be free for subscribers, which is a reality now that the first Dragon's spine content is out.

While it is true that FC is going through a restructuring process, what we know is that they're combining the different live teams into only one team to service all 3 MMOs. This is very different from your claim that they laid off everybody and hired a new team.

Also, other than the Beijing offices being closed this year, all other branches ( Oslo, Montreal, North Carolina) are still operational from the information that has been released.

Is FC going through hard times ? I'd definitely say yes, but they are still pumping out new content for AoC and TSW. Not sure about AO because I haven't logged in for a long time now. So your claim that we won't see content for years is just another troll statement.

So there you go. Next time, try a little harder and at least  get informed a bit before trying to spread your nonsense, because as you can see, it is very easy to prove your posts have zero credibility.

I'm backing this project already. As far as I know, they already have the funding to make the game. The KS is only to speed up the process.

To me, supporting the project means letting them know there are people out there supporting the vision of a new and different kind of fantasy MMO. Hope they succeed with this project.

Originally posted by jtcgs

When I read it was going B2P I was actually interested but then I read the details and realized they are only doing this because the game failed to do well and this is a B2P freemium, not actually B2P. Much like with F2P freemium, B2P freemium creates a second class citizen in new players...monthly subscribers get bonuses that only they have access to.

No thank you.

Ya if someone buys a membership to pay for future DLC and some cosmetic outfits, I don't see why I have to do that too. I want everything for free, and I mean EVERYTHING.

Just had to lol at this post. The nerve of some people.

Originally posted by black_isle

 Originally posted by hockey98

Originally posted by Butch808

Originally posted by darkbamy

Still need to pay for the expansion...then NO

My feelings exactly.

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[mod edit] He is talking about the issue in which customers who paid for the expansion are asked to pay for it again in order for it to be unlocked (and only weekly and for each zone seperately). So they are taking something away from you which you have already paid for and putting it behind a paywall and that is unacceptable.

 

I won't be going back unless they change this and find a solution for AA.

Just to clarify this for you : They did not take anything away from you. When game went f2p it was made perfectly clear that RotGS would remain available for subscribers only with an option for free players to access the content via weekly passes regardless of you buying the expansion previously or not.

Would it be better if they implemented something like the new TSW business model ? Probably yes, but it is what it is at the moment. What if Blizzard suddenly decided to extend WoW's f2p trial to include every expansion but MoP which would remain available for subbers only ?

I can guarantee that lots of people would happily drop their subscriptions and would still be complaining that Blizzard took away MoP from them (for those who paid for that expansion) when it would be clear from the beginning that MoP would not be part of the deal.

Sorry, but the truth is many people read or hear F2P and they immediately see themselves having access to everything without having to pay a cent, ever. Have you heard the saying : "Give them an inch, they want a mile".  I think it's perfectly valid in this case.

As for your AA concern, people who bought the RotGS expansion have access to the full AA system in AoC under the f2p model. The only option in the AA system unavailable for free players who own the expansion is the time trained feature. 

Originally posted by mmo72

Originally posted by spitfire1064

Originally posted by mmo72

Originally posted by spitfire1064
You sound happy.

The more terrible , unfinished , buggy mmo's that crash and burn the better.

One day hoping mmorpg companies will learn from mistakes such as TSW and SWTOR.

Hoping these two in particular continue to burn into a horrible end for the companies.

Maybe then better games will be published.

I also enjoyed seeing the past months the clueless who tried to imply TSW was selling well , despite all financials pointing to the opposite.

Wondering where those folks are now as I'd like to see them spin this.

Do you want a hug?

The TSW fanboys do .

No need for a hug here , enjoying seeing Funcom reap the results of releasing imcomplete buggy game again.

Their own forums are a blast now , with those who've bought the grandmaster ,their most dedicated and loyal customers , are in an uproar.

Quite enjoyable.

Lol you are such a bitter gamer aren't you ?

I got lifetime membership in TSW and I think the change is quite positive for the game. I am also getting more benefits now than before the move to B2P so nothing to complain about. I checked  the forums and it's only a few bitter people like yourself who are complaining about the new direction.

If anything, this change proves that Funcom is willing to adapt to new trends in the industry. Nothing wrong with admitting that the sub only model was not optimal for the game.

I really applaud Funcom for this move that will allow a lot of people to play this great game for only a few bucks and then decide if they want to spend some money on it.

Lifetimer here as well, and nothing to regret about my purchase. I buy stuff regularly from the cash shop so getting a 20% discount now plus $10 every month (in store points)  and a special free item is just an even better deal now.

But the best part of this change in business model is that the game will attract lots of new players, and that is very positive for the game.

Best of luck with the changes Joel and everyone else at FC !

I have no problems whatsoever with games that use Pay to Win business models. Anyone having issues with companies using this business model should just stay away from them.

It's really that simple. Gaming companies want to make money, and they're free to decide how they want to make money. As customers we get to choose if we want to play by their rules or not.

Been playing since headstart, and I don't see myself stopping anytime soon so no regrets at all.

And honestly. I bought lifetime right away to support this game for offering a fresh modern day setting and horror/mystery atmosphere, among other things, but I still support the game regularly through the cash shop.

Like every other game out there, it's not going to please everybody, but in my case, I am having a lot of fun. The huge battles to capture/defend bases feel really epic, and well, there are just tons of players to kill lol.

Of course it's very likely you'll be dying a lot as well lol. Finish the download and see for yourself if it's right for you.