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It is a lot easier to complain about life than get on with it ixproval. :)

"Just to mention that SWTOR, LOTRO and Rift are not subscription based games in the first place (even Tera i think its F2P worldwide)"

Just to clarify, they were P2P in the first place. I know that's not what you were getting at but it is so easily forgotten by those who tell us how great F2P games are.

As to Superdata, best we can get with the caveat that as it is the only source, that's not really saying much.

You will get a big content patch down the line, but that may only be for top end users again like Craglorn. I can see them adding different gameplay for the lower levels, but everyone does that and it can be unbalancing. So for me solid development rather than 'wow' is the answer to any MMO going forward.
Not sure its for me but you got to hand it too them for the character class of Leper, how did they get that one past the marketing suits? :)
Not sure how much CoX was earning but this was clearly a triumph of IP over quality of MMO. CoX was the better MMO, but IP means all unfortunately. So DC universe survives and CoX does not.
Just another bash thread, and we have had one about the price at least four times before. We get about one a month on price, the first were about TESO being too expensive the last few about how cheap it is. But no matter what the price is they always have an issue. :D

"MMOs are more fun to play with your friends. Most of them encourage or even require grouping for a lot of the best and most rewarding content, which necessitates either being social in the game world, or coming into the experience with a pre-determined group of friends to play with."

Ten years ago they did, we are all non-MMO players now. You have about as much contact with other players as you have with commuters going into work. You are all on the same transport system but that's your only connection.

Originally posted by Hariken
Originally posted by vorpal28

Personally paying the one off fee to play Asheron's Call will net you more fun than ESO ever will.

Go Retro guys!

Yeah this the best deal out there 10 bucks lifetime for AC1 and AC2 and no monthly fee. Forget about Wildstar and ESO. Go Retro all the way.

You do realise that AC is still rather old school? They would be back crying on here in no time. In Teso they complained vet levels were a grind, I would just love to see them in AC1. I suppose they don't have corpse runs now, I would so like to see the whingers on here doing a corpse run. They complained about the gold cost to repair amour, can you imagine them on a corpse run? :D

Do they still have crafting stations in AC2 where you have to feed the station resources to enable the workshop to actually make top gear? Can you imagine the look on their faces? :D

Thanks for that guys, brought tears to my eyes.


Not content now they can't do poison posts on Steam they are going to have to come here. I can't have my fucking rant! :)


Everything the OP mentioned seemed to be about bots, they have gone. But don't come back to a game when you were prepared to jump ship so soon. Give it till next year, more changes and more likely you will enjoy it more and stay longer.

Indeed, you need people to know your name or know your face, you don't need to know anything yourself.

But then I blame the organisers as much as those who sit on the panels.

Originally posted by zwei2
Originally posted by gervaise1
Originally posted by zwei2

Anyway, if ESO does follow up with a formal PR reply that the sub holds water, it does make it more credible and useful for discussion. Then again, there will be posters proclaiming "ZENIMAX IS FAKING NUMBERS!!! THE PROFIT IS FAKE!!!!!" LoL

Zenimax are not making any numbers up; these are not Zenimax numbers.


How the number has been created:

  • Take the Raptr number in "month 1" (it may not be Raptr, it could be several tracking apps added together).
  • multiply by some factor because not all PC users use e.g. Raptr. So if 50% "use" Raptr multiply by 2;
  • Track those users - get the computer to establish:
  • Using Raptr in first month = purchase;
  • Still using Raptr a month later = subscriber;
  • New user in month 2 = new sale
  • And so on.
  • And if you want to estimate income - multiply subs by $15 or whatever.
And that is basically all there is to it.
No one expects Zenimax to comment on Raptr or XFire reports so why should they comment on this data.


That is the gist of the problem here; the information is provided by a third party. The company may be supported by Zenimax, but it is still not first hand info.


That is why I am suggesting that if Zenimax is to follow up with a more formal announcement, whether to support or denounce the numbers, then posters will be able to see whether the sub numbers is true or not. Which, in this case, most probably never to be announced.

A fair point but answer me this. Wildstar had no official figures, yet we saw threads on their forum saying how great the sales looked on the basis of some vague quotes about how well the game was doing. When Zenimax released no figures we had threads on here telling us that it was a conspiracy and Zenimax was hiding it to fool us.

Forgive me then for seeing a double standard and wondering why some posters on here (not saying yourself) have just spewed bile on TESO in every way they possibly can from week one.

No doubt this year we will get another of these stats companies telling us that F2P is now the major player in the MMO market. No doubt some of the same posters on here who told us not to trust the TESO figures will be telling us telling us to trust those figures. Another double standard, this time only accepting data which favours F2P. 

I think it is about 25$ on Steam.

Can I ask you why you think you would be coming in late? This the standard form now, all join at launch, all leave within a month or two. It is that sort of content locust mentality that is killing MMO's.

And you joined in 2004, surely you know there can be more to MMOs than that?

Those who say 200k do need to remember Skyrim sold well over 5 million copies. This is not another IP no one has heard of MMO. How many are still with us is a fair point, but the idea TESO only sold 200k is laughable, and we now have many more coming online from Steam.

To use phasing as a reason we are still seeing players is a bit misleading to my eyes. Guilds are still strong, numbers are not going down, guilds are not phased. :)

Originally posted by Thane
Originally posted by Scot
Sounds like players might have to use their brains for this, so not sure how well it will be received. :)

yea because there SURELY wont be pages listing the best combis ^^

Thane, you are out of date, well we both are as you joined in the same year as me. That's what we used to do. If you need to look at anything online now that's not easymode. Players expect to jump in and intuitively understand everything. If that's not the case they expect hand holding in game. We already have crafting where you need to look online and ability builds where you need to look online, that was bad enough. :D


Originally posted by Bigdaddyx
Compared to story in TSW and SWTOR? pretty average.


I partly agree, but then SWTOR has the best class quests I have seen and TSW has a unique setting and quests to match. That's a high pedigree. TESO is not in my top three questing MMOs (Lotro is number 3) but that's a pretty high bar for any MMO to reach in my book.

Originally posted by dadown

I played in beta and had some fun, but kept being frustrated by bugs. If it followed the GW2 model of a 1 time purchase I'd buy it, but there's no way I'm going to pay a sub for it. It was the same for ST:TOR, I waited until the F2P option and now play it occasionally. Same for Lotro; I returned when it went F2P and I've bought several expansions. I play it fairly regularly now.

I cycle through different games depending on the mood I'm in, so monthly subs are not acceptable. There are far more decent F2P games available than I have time, so I see no reason to commit to a monthly fee. I've played Eve when I've got an offer to play for a while for free or minimal cost, but again I'm not willing to pay a monthly for it.

I'm currently having some fun in Landmark (it was worth the $20 founders pack) and looking forward for the beta for EQ Next to start as it should be an interesting innovative game.

If you don't want to pay a sub for a P2P game, you buy it and do not sign up for the sub. Simples.

Forever playing betas you are going to get a very lopsided few of what MMOs are about, but each to their own.


"I found it annoying when people who come sit in my area trying to strike up conversation. I was trying to work."

The joys of working in an office. :)

The figure does not sound unreasonable to me, no doubt all those who are trying to make out no one is left on ESO find this a hard pill to swallow.

That said, I never put much faith in those sites, trust what you see guys, you know there are plenty of players online, what else matters?

Sounds like players might have to use their brains for this, so not sure how well it will be received. :)
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