Turbine could get around this issue.  They should  just make alternative paths to leveling, instead of requiring the killing of said bestiary.

Originally posted by theAsna

I shouldn't respond. But at least it was worth seeing Samuel L. Jackson. 

I didn't like BC, it ruined WoW for me.  Only two things i liked about it though, and that is Nagrand, and the importance of CC.  WotLK isn't so bad, but still not as great.

It sort of reminds me of a Lobby game like Guild Wars.  Just sitting in a capital (hub) waiting for a party.

What went wrong?!  This is an easy question to answer.

They restricted us to the boring zones of Eriador.  We should have been able to start in Rohan, Gondor, and even Mordor.  Instead, we get a linear progression of zones following the story.

I voted no, but i would vote yes if it was a truly epic story.

Massively (what's considered massive anyway?)

Multi-Player (more than two players)

Online (self explanatory)

Role-Playing (assuming a role while playing)

Game (is it really? or virtual world?)

I"ve always been bothered how this genre has been named.  Anyone agree?

I hope they update the character customization options and not just the ingame NPCs.

Originally posted by Neopsych

I think I have more willpower than forum posters who cant resist the urge to post a negative anytime they see a positive wow reference..

 

haha classic 

Grinding in an MMO is the repetitive process of staying in a spot, or area, and killing the same NPCs until you reach the next level(s).

It reallys annoys me when people try to apply grinding to questing and farming.  There is a difference.

Originally posted by neoterrar

I think 100 per district (or whatever the term is) is brilliant. Although I don't know about balance issues. I'm curious if they will force it to be 50 v 50 or if there will be fudging.

I couldn't imagine having 1000 people driving around like idiots in the same area, would be total chaos.

just like in real life.  :p

Originally posted by AgtSmith

Actually, I think the game starts out well, but as you get to 20 it really starts to fall apart and show its 'Korean game' roots.  So if by excessive bitching you mean I have been honest in my analysis of the game giving it credit for things I think are good ad criticizing things I think it does poorly then I guess you are correct.

Reminds me of that one game involving a barbarian, and we all know how that turned out.

@robdog: You could be right and maybe it's this genre i'm getting sick of.  Single-player games are ok, but i just prefer multi-player games due to the social aspect of them.  Oblivion Online sounds pretty good actually.  I guess i'll just have to wait for the next "big thing" in the MMO genre.

@shiymmas: I'm also a cleric too, and it does frustrate me a bit to see other classes kill with ease.  I also read that thread and it actually had some good arguments from both sides, until the trolls and flamers got it locked up.  And ya you're right, my thread title does sound kind of trollish, but oh well.

Originally posted by teco221

Oh God... another dumb ass player can't find quest posting.... so sick of this....

I don't want to be rude, but you're just another "dumbass" fanboy on mmorpg.com and i'm sick of your type.  Stop being so defensive of your precious game. 

I played from 1.1, 1.2 to now 1.5, there are a lot of quests, PLEASE DON'T BE SO LAZY AND FIND THEM YOURSELF!!!!  Don't just say "oh no quests in this area, I am out of quests etc etc etc"....

Scroll up and read my 2nd post.  I did look for them, but apparently you like to rage with a red face with veins popping out.  You also could have offered advice on where to get these quests, instead of being lazy yourself.

Just simply said "you hate this game, you want your money back" it's easier then complaint something isn't true.

Where exactly did i say i hate this game? or wanted my money back?  or where did i complain?  I addressed something i thought was a problem in Aion, like a lack of quests for a certain level range.

Originally posted by Boardwalker

I'm level 21 and I have 13 quests in my journal. Sounds like you missed some. Also, quests don't promote community--they promote solo play. Grinding mobs/elites is so much fun because you work with others, thus a more cohesive community is formed. 

The Black Claw Elite quests were group quests which also promoted working together, not solo play.  Grinding is never fun in my opinion, but if it's fun for you, that's fine with me.

I did look for them.  I looked here.  http://www.aionarmory.com/search.aspx?browse=4.2&filters=203=20;204=25;230=2#quests:0+2

As you can see, there's only about 15-20 quests for lvl 20.  And some of them are repeatable or require gathering skills.  And if you add up all the XP, it's still not sufficient enough to get to the next level.

I also wasn't looking for someone to hold my hand.  I actually did explore Pandaemonium, Morheim, and Brusthonin for more quests, and died several times doing so.  So next time don't assume someone wants an easy way to level.

...until i hit lvl 20.  Simply put, i ran out of  quests.  (repeatable & crafting quests shouldn't be required to level)

It's severely lacking in the 20-25 range (sounds just like that other MMO), and others have said it gets worse later on.  From what i've read on Aionsource's forums, it's faster to just grind on mobs than it is to quest, gather, and even PvP.

Don't get me wrong, i'm not trying to imply that questing should be the only way, or even be the fastest way to level, but it should be an alternate path to get me to max level or at least to the next questing hub.  Even if questing is slower or faster than other routes, or whether it's solo or group oriented, questing should be there.

Why?  Because questing immerses me more into the world than just grinding on mobs.  Even those annoying fetch x and slay # of x type of quests give me a purpose to do it (once again, repeatable quests don't count in my eyes), otherwise what's my purpose in that world if i don't have stories to follow?  Questing also gives me a purpose to go back and forth between towns and cities, so i can sell, auction, and interact with others while taking a break from the monotonous grind.

If NCSoft would just up the XP gain from quests in that level range, it wouldn't be so bad.  Unless the next leveling zones are also lacking, then that also means the PvE content is lacking as well...which is pretty bad.

p.s. please do NOT think i'm only comparing this to WoW, i'm comparing it to many other MMOs, including WoW.  (hmm this is sig worthy)

p.s.s. this isn't a wall of text either, since i used paragraphs :p

Please revert back to the old layout!

Vanguard, AoC, WAR, and soon DF.....and the trend continues.  As long as people keep buying unfinished products, they'll keep selling them.

Neonwire has a point to an extent.  Role-playing is only as good as the tools that are given to you.

Clothing, Emotes, Events, Character Customization, and just other design elements in general are all important to role-playing.  Gear, Titles, Ranks, can only go so far into immersing a player.