People already pay for virtual items, why wouldn't they get excited at virtual characters? No real difference there, both are pixels used to satisfy human desire.

Anyway I fail to see the issue as long as they know that some people may abuse it to retarded outcomes, a nudity filter client-side would be fine to prevent any issues including from those uncomfortable with nudity in-game (whatever the reason is).

 Let's troll on semantics, after all this is the first time ever PR was used without clear details... although for most people with a reasonable IQ "vision" wasn't really unclear as what it meant, but I guess this even deserves a whole news post over here instead of a small update :P

 Unreal Engine 3, finally it is here for MMOs.

Not my kind of gameplay (martial arts focused), but we'll see, as long as it isn't some pay-to-win game aka cash shops, animation and graphic quality is way too solid to simply ignore.

Originally posted by Talin

Waste of space. The Internet is dumber for having read this.

Wait... does it mean it's now below the absolute zero for any intelligence sign?

@ OP

You'd be more convincing if your post didn't contain any space bar characters.

Originally posted by Kuro1n

Originally posted by gauge2k3

Because people who mod consoles buy games.....yeah....

Says the clueless... i got a modded console and i very VERY few pirated games (the ones i have aren't available in my region).

Tbh i have two xbox 360s, one for playing the games i cant get in my country and one for playing the real games online and such...

 

 

Why shouldnt it be allowed to modify something you bought? Microsoft doesnt own it, i do.

For example: you buy a car and changes engine in it, now your not allowed to drive on the motorway anymore... Does it sound correct?

Well, they didn't take away your Xbox, they simply banned the Xbox Live account.

Same thing as taking that car, making engine changes that violate competition rules, therefore getting banned from all competitions with that car associated with these rules, in this case the whole online service.

Cryptic being Cryptic on what they say, nothing new there.

Developers need to stop insulting the intelligence of gamers with all this hype-monetizing shady stuff, before they get literally destroyed in court. 10 weeks of closed beta, if subscribers only get to play two weeks... I wouldn't be very happy.

Originally posted by Ruyn

We are trying to gauge how much interest there would be for a new server with special rules restricting player killing to consensual basis only.
Something along the lines of both parties would need to accept an invite to enter into combat with each other.
For example, player one would target player two and select 'invite to pvp'.

Please keep the number of threads regarding this down to a manageable number as we will be moderating this subject fairly heavily.

We must stress though that at this stage, this is just an idea, but we do need to cater for all tastes, even non violent ones.
Keep the posts positive and constructive please.

Thank you.

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They already removed that thread heh, guess it wasn't very well received.

Companies are finding out it's better to make AAA games with both a subscription and an item mall, that's all, why the hell make it F2P if the game isn't facing population problems  (and isn't some random 4 year old Asian game getting released over here), and why not squeeze money from people that feel like being scammed in purchasing virtual 0 and 1s (or merely supporting it) from a virtual shop with infinite offer, and make it possible for the most money-making business model to exist - P2P with item malls. Even the Juggernaut is a Subscription + Item mall MMO.

You'll be back soon if what you say is true.

Don't accept gifts from strangers... especially very valuable ones, these may bring more trouble than benefit as you can see.

Well, sandboxes offer you the tools to make your own fun, making it possible for results like this to happen

While themeparks can only offer you completed rides, and only a fixed amount of them, oh wait, you'll have to repeatedly ride them to achieve something.

Originally posted by arri535

to prevent user exodus.

they even shows whatever they wanna make

but realization is another story

don't be hooked up.

 

 

 

 

Yeah, because a video like this showing upcoming features can be made in a few days, right.

Might as well consider any upcoming features announced from any game a "warning" to prevent user exodus.

 Cash shops.

Very impressive, didn't expect them to be working on half of these features.

Good thing MMOs are showing there is room for evolution in the sense of a true expansion, and we're not talking about a few new levels and skins to allow higher damage numbers.

As far I know /who functions usually have search limits, at least in WoW and Aion. They are not meant for you to know how many concurrent users are online, but meant for you to find some people in your area/level range/whatever, and if you found something like 5000 results, it wouldn't be very practical to find people in there.

I haven't played FE so I really have no idea if it is like that in the game, it's just that all subscription games except for EVE are scared of showing how much users there are online.

(and who's Wardrop?)

Currently with active subscriptions in Aion and EVE, two is just that fantastic number that allows such diversity (I guess I don't even need to explain the differences between my current two choices).

 I think the elements are different extremes for a fun experience, while the themepark guides your experience on rails, set rules and etc, the sandbox just gives you the tools for you to set your own experience, there is no "end-game" in that way.

That's just theorical though, you can't really make exclusively one or the other, like you never have a fully one-side extremist government. In MMOs it's about taking the rewards out of one side or making them not so appealing.

So yes, a MMO can have (and usually has) enough elements of each side to cater to both crowds, to a certain extent of their tastes, but no, no MMO will be able to fully cater to both crowds or completely alienate one of the crowds.

Originally posted by Loke666

Originally posted by Tsnow

I don't know about the end of the world, or humanity for that fact, but I do know the Mayan's knew what they were talking about.

The date in question 12/21/12 will find our sun parrellel with the center of our galaxy. Many scientists have stated that the results could be as simple as Solar flares or as massive as a magnetic polar shift that will tear the contenents apart. 

Personaly I think our alien masters will return on that date and try and re-enslave hummanity. 

Duh, the mayans based everything in their calender by astronomy. They just had the stupid idea that the position of the stars affect the life or regular people.

It is true however that a big solar storm might come 2012, like the one that killed the power in Quebeck in the 70s. If it hit as bad as the one in the 1880s we might have to live a few months without electricity, that would actually kill some people but going from that to the end of the world is a great step.

Some people have teories that a solar storm could destroy the life on earth but it havn't happened since life started on earth a looong time ago so the chanse for that is as close to zero as you can get.

The world will stay for a long time, everything dies sooner or later of course but it will be later.

Yeah, because life on Earth is old enough to have endured every possible cataclysmic possibility, and the Science is accurate enough to foresee all of them, not really any point in them telling the general public anything if they are not certain it can be contained, imagine the chaos, oh wait... we've seen that in dozens of movies already.

I'm more fond of the Patch Day process though, we know how it could really happen considering our experience in MMOs. Why care seriously, now that's a good question, as if it would matter if the world ended, we'll discuss it when it happens ;)

 Shhh, they might add a racing mini-game or something like that C-Store à la EQ TCG.

Because it has tons of content? While it faces the inevitable issues of a level structure, sequential expansion content rendering prior content possibly obsolete in terms of attractiveness (cataclysm seems interesting as it proposes a total overhaul of Azeroth to meet current standards) and the themepark design (instead of a sandbox), it still has a tremendous variety of content to be explored, way above the average for a themepark design which usually can't pump content fast enough without giving you huge leveling curves.

If you are out of ideas of what to do and/or don't currently care about the equipment endgame (which is based on raiding/arena play), a quick browse through the achievements panel (while not necessarily seeking to be an "achiever") should give you ideas.

Originally posted by Zeroxin

Originally posted by Raltar

Originally posted by Blurr

I could go on, but considering you haven't actually played the game yet, you should know that you could be quite wrong with what you're assuming is the way combat works.

 

Hey, I hope I am wrong! Until now I was thinking the same thing you were: You could equip any ship with any kind of abilities by using your crew and mods.

BUT...

If I'm wrong, explain why Cryptic directly says in the video:

Resourceful Captains will also be able to recognize and utilize the different classes of starships. Cruisers as tanks, science vessles as support and escorts for lighting strikes.

They more or less directly tell us that they intend for people to use cruisers as tanks, science for support, ect. They don't want you to do anything different or unique. They want to put you in your role and they want you to stay there. The end result is that the player base will eventually do this and expect that this is the only way to play the game. Just like in nearly every other MMO.

Ok maybe you saved yourself by putting in "nearly" but still I'm gonna run with this anyway just to make a point.

Eve online:

Logistics ship:

Exequror: 5 mining lasers (CCP: "Wooot! But thats meant for logistics!" Me: "It has a big cargohold, drone space and lots of turret points what did you expect?")

Guild Wars:

Ritualist/Assassin:

Can't tell you my build cos it's badass but I'm more of an assassin than a ritualist.

Eve Online:

Myrmidon with bonuses to armour tanking:

instead I have a shield tank.

Now maybe the mistake Cryptic has made is to try to speak in the "lay-man's terms" and oversimplify the way you can customize your ship and you have now taken that out of context but the thing is if you look at all the other MMOs (like the ones I mentioned above) they would have explained it the same way, For example; Arenanet explaining the ritualist or the healer by saying this is a healing class and they can also do DPS but you can add a secondary profession and fit them with those abilities but they wont be as effective as the real thing. Another example; CCP explaining the logistics classes as the healer classes but they can also be fitted to shoot and mine but they won't be as effective because their bonuses don't apply to those activities and that is what Cryptic is explaining here.

What you are on is another level of miscommunication.

On a different note; Me and a few friend spent some time in Eve trying to speed tank a titan with EFT (eve fitting tool) and a Titan is meant for DPS and tanking not for speed. Now if the developer was to explain to you how the Titan works they'd say "it is not meant to move fast" but does that mean that one shouldn't try or that one is retricted to that. A guy used a Titan to MINE, he used a TITAN to MINE and if you know eve those two things should never be seen together but there you have it.

Wow... A titan for MINING. I knew somebody would do that, wish it had been me :P

@ Discussion

Blame developers for starting the video with such a simple description of the classes and how combat goes, it really gave the impression of a fantasy MMO with sci-fi skins for some people... and that's enough to create some vocal discussion, after all while the game isn't out yet they want us to pre-order it, oh wait, NDA and all beta-related advertisement since CO's 6-month and lifetime subscriptions to induce us to pay for a game we know nothing about, making it look like another short-term temporary success MMO.

They are doing it wrong IMO... they are supposed to sugar coat it as much as possible to make it seem complex and fun and they made a terrible first impression with the video.