Sadly, I have grown quite tired of Neverwinter faster than I assumed I would, but it will remain on the computer to jump back in and out of, a new class and the Dark Elf race would be a nice release being I was only interested in trickster rogue.......but onto the OP's questions.....

I just went back to Age of Conan, I'm not sure how limited the F2P part of it is, but I don't think it's very restrictive. Point being, the game is very fun, I love the setting, for free you might as well give it a shot.

Originally posted by Manolios

Originally posted by 4bsolute

Originally posted by kizan0601

Originally posted by Rekindle

I've been taught when someone you dont know offers you something for free there is a string somewhere.

 

I read the FAQ for Neverwinter, seemed like a decent enough game to try out.  The problem I have is on their main FAQ they state the game is free and provide no details about the strings.

 

I come where and I read about their stupid over priced item store.  Developers should offer two tiered services. One service for the sucker born every minute and the other service so people who just want to buy a dam game and play it.

 

Cryptic is off my list because they cant clearly and honestly tell me how much a decent experience is going to cost.

 

Nope, nothing is free.

1-60 done all end game content have mount/bags/companions....all without spending a single dime. L2p f2p games, Rift/NWO/Tera/etc all have awsome f2p models where you do not have to spend anything to enjoy those games....where as SOE should get a clue and you should stay away from those games as they limit you via equipment instead of space/slots/etc.

Rift is COMPLETELY ... like completely, completely (Full PvP and PvE access) enjoyable FOR FREE?

Please reply, fast.

 

yes it is

No, you can go 1-60 , but the Storm Legion souls are not Free

Originally posted by picommander
As long as cryptic is flooding the scenes with those "oh-so-rare" heavy-nightmare nonsense I have a hard time to take this game seriously. For starters: these packs are auto picked up and can only be opened by certain keys available via cash shop. Fortunately they can be deleted now but still most players avoid them like some steaming piles of junk. Underline of these silly packs is "we are greedy but just too dumb to find a smart way of generating any income".

True, but people are spending a fortune on keys, I have nearly 60 of these boxes in my inventory or on the auction house. I had sold a ton of them already , but I can't even seem to sell them on the auction house anymore. I'm not to cheap to buy things from the auction house or the cash shop, though I've made a fortune without paying hardly anything (20 dollars after the 600k I got with Guardian Pack), but the prices are insane, and I don't like to gamble. People seem to be spending money like crazy though.

Originally posted by Lunarpac
"Cryptic has avoided the dreaded “pay to win” moniker."
I heard something about end-game enchants, which you either have to farm ~7 months or pay $160 to get. That certainly doesn't seem fair from a p2w perspective. I still have my doubts about this game. Hmm.

This is by far a "worst case scenario", someone just trying to sell this part of the game short. Playing the Zen market(buying/selling with Astral Diamonds/Zen) or selling items on the auction house for astral diamonds (loot is plentiful and Bind on Equip) , can get you a ton of AD in a hurry.  I spoke in another thread about me buying the Guardian pack and went through my 600k ad quick, I bought some zen then played the market, between playing the market and auction house sales I have accumulated near 10mil Astral Diamonds. Just so you know, it's really easy to get AD. That thread about 7mos or $160 was referring to only converting "rough" AD to regular AD is a maximum of 24k a day........it was very biased.

The game is very easy, but the most fun I have had in mmo's in years, I just finally got my first 60 , Trickster Rogue, yesterday and still very much having fun. I am typically a very casual player, but admit I have been playing a lot since early access open beta. I'm sure my game time is longer than most at about 3 days to reach 60.........that's a lot of game time in 3-4 weeks for me.

As far as gold being unnecessary as stated in the article, I think it really is until late in the game, then health pot consumption starts adding up quickly. I go through a ton of pots In some areas. Ugh Mindflayers give me a really tough time.

Originally posted by bestever

Originally posted by MadDemon64

Originally posted by bestever

Originally posted by Pandaman102

Originally posted by Vannor   

It's no secret that paying will get you there quicker.. but some people blow that out of proportion. They make it sound like it's almost impossible or will take months if you don't pay. It's just not true.

Impossible is certainly a stretch, but why do you say months isn't true?

Let's assume the Astral Diamonds exchange rate drops to 250 AD per ZEN, like it did Dilithium/ZEN in STO and Questionite/ZEN in CO. With two characters, you have a cap of 48000 AD per day, which is 192 ZEN per day.

To Mount Training at 110% you need 2,832,000 AD, which is 59 days of grinding using both characters.

To get a 4000 ZEN epic mount you need another 21 days.

To get a 3500 ZEN epic pet you need another 19 days.

You only really need Coalescent Wards for the last two ranks of an enchantment, so 5 wards at $10 means another 26 days for each rune and enchantment. Let's assume you're making one for your pet, one for your armor, and another for your weapon, so 78 days in total.

That alone comes to 177 days minimum, doesn't that count as "months"?

 "you have a cap of 48000 AD per day, which is 192 ZEN per day"

This is 100% false as you can make as much AD in a day as you want since I've made over 400k in the past two day's.

What so hard to understand that you can only CONVERT 24K ROUGH AD TO AD WHICH THEY GIVE YOU FOR FREEEEEE. So stop talking out your ass...

I love how people come on here and talk trash about a game they no nothing about.

Also, I like the pvp and I'm not worried about this so called pay2win crap that people keep coming up with about the enchants. If I out skill that person then his enchant means nothing. Will he/she hit harder sure but I can think of ways to beat him/her by not getting hit. I can earn these enchants just from playing the game and it may take some time and it should. All these QQ complaints are pretty much I want it now and I don't want to pay.

I'll play Neverwinter just like a SUB game by buying 15$ zen a month. Wow, what a concept 

 

I think you kinda misunderstood what he meant by "192 zen per day".

It means that if you convert all AD to zen, you can get 192 zen per day via AD conversion.

How am I reading that wrong? He says 48k cap per day on two toons which is 24k per toon per day and can only trade that for 192 zen per day, which is wrong, you can convert as much AD to ZEN that you want if someone will buy it off the AH. So please tell me again how I'm reading this wrong. If he's stated that you can make 48k AD a day and  convert it to 192 zen for free then your right but thats not what he's saying. Read it again and tell me I'm wrong because I know that you can make all the AD you want and trade for all the zen you want in one day as there is no cap. The cap is for ROUGH AD TO AD CONVERSION only.

Correct, you can only refine 24k "ROUGH" Ad per day. A little playing with the market will get you far quickly , as well as selling items on the AH. My only toon is a 42 trickster rogue, I purchased the guardian pack, and quickly spent the 600k AD. I bought a 20 dollar pwe card from target and have never spent another dime on the game. 20 dollar pwe card gets you 2000 zen, I play the Zen market a lot and now have 3000zen and 2.4 million AD. So I am missing what all the fuss is all about. For that matter, if you make foundry quests, people very regularly "tip" when reviewing..........these AD can add up quickly also.

I think the cash shop prices are disgusting, but love the game and will be glad to kick them some money here and there. Is the game P2W? It can be if you would rather pay than do a little creative thinking, but really P2W is for folks rushing to the end game, they blow a bunch of cash then typically get bored and the game sucks to them because they didn't earn anything,and have it all,  just my opinion.

Why so serious folks? It's a game, it's a hobby..relax and have fun. People these days try to dissect everything.

ALB-Tristan, from launch until New Frontiers finally made me leave

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50 Reaver-Mordors............/face /stick /leviathan....there will be no runners!

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Originally posted by evilastro

Originally posted by Entris38

Originally posted by Isturi

After viewing a few trailers I feel that the game play is conventently similar to WoW. Of course this is my opionion.

Thoughts??

P.S. this thread was changed as to not infrienge on any prior threads related to recent trailers.

I read through all the posts and I really feel like the best game out there to compare it to is DDO, having played it, it's pretty much copy/paste of DDO and updated with WoW'ish/RIft type of art style. Very simplistic combat, but nothing like WoW, more like any action combat, such as Diablo 3, maybe a bit more complex.

 No, you are wrong, it is nothing like DDO.

Maybe people who haven't played it should refrain from saying what they think it plays like?

I was thinking the same things about your post? Have you not played it? Being I bought a Guardian pack and played about 10-15 hours on the first beta weekend.It feels very much the same atmosphere, instanced setting as DDO, thought the combat is completely different. My comment was no insult to DDO or NW, it was a compliment, for I very much enjoyed DDO and loved the beta weekend in NW....and will be playing NW . We could also compare NW to other Cryptic titles, STO and champions. I think my opinion is completely valid and no idea where you think i didn't play it. Apparently opinions vary....who would of thought?........

Originally posted by Isturi

After viewing a few trailers I feel that the game play is conventently similar to WoW. Of course this is my opionion.

Thoughts??

P.S. this thread was changed as to not infrienge on any prior threads related to recent trailers.

I read through all the posts and I really feel like the best game out there to compare it to is DDO, having played it, it's pretty much copy/paste of DDO and updated with WoW'ish/RIft type of art style. Very simplistic combat, but nothing like WoW, more like any action combat, such as Diablo 3, maybe a bit more complex.

On another note, I had a blast on the beta weekend playing it. It will be free, take a look when it comes out.

These are the type of complaints that ruined MMO's for me, in another sense it made MMO's huge. Either way companies catered to "solo" complaints and made MMO's single player games.

PoE is not an MMO like many others have stated. Co-op action game...........if somone wants a pure single player experience there are more than one or two of those games tp be found I bet, but seriously, make some friends in game, it's a far better experience in gaming.

Originally posted by SBFord
The pros pretty much were a feature of my Friday Preview though, in fairness, in today's article, I mentioned how great combat was, how much I liked companions, how much more expansive the world actually is than I initially thought and that the potential for a great game is there if, over time, Cryptic pays attention.

I will read up on it, thanks. I certainly agree if over time Cryptic pays attention, this could be an excellent game. I'm sad that i didn't spend more time just exploring the areas, the environment is very lively..........I was hoping in your pros I would have found the things I should have been looking for, I will read up on your Friday Preview.

I sure hope they let us toy with the foundry on the next weekend!

 Fair preview, though in parts it seemed a little "attacking" and biased, it is beta still. Comical you started this with a pros and cons line, then stuck to the cons.....is there a pros article coming later?  Companions can certainly use some work, alot of it. I haven't scourged the forums, but I didn't even know about alot of "stability" issues, I take it I was lucky for I didn't have a single disconnect or crash, there was a patched memory leak on saturday. I played a rogue to level 21 and cleric/warrior to levels 4 and 5 just to see how their combat felt.

I hope all the other classes do make it in the game, but fully expected very few classes at launch. You got to have something to buy in a F2P game, after all.

Very well written review. I played a trickster rogue to level 22. Played a Cleric and Warrior to 4 and 5, just to get a feel of how they felt to play. I started off feeling kind of "Meh", but quickly became very addicted over the weekend. NW is pretty much exactly what I thought it would be, and I look to play it for a long time.

My system is windows 7 64bit, quad core 965BE, radeon 7870,8gig ram.........I played flawlessly all weekend, was luck enough to run into no bugs or crashes. There was a slight issue with a memory leak, but they did a quick fix on saturday. The leak never affected me, but I was keeping an eye on it for feedback purposes.

This MMO still hold my fondest memories, except for hell levels, those were the only levels I really seemed to notice.  Retired from the game at the launch of Luclin and was there from about 3 months after launch, something about Luclin turned me off to the game. My pally had 58 real life days played....and several alts........I was very addicted.

I have been conisdering giving all the new content a whirl, this just nudged me a little more.

Sadly I think most MMO's have caught on that most players treat MMO's like single player campaigns. We storm through the content then move on. That sense of community is long gone in MMO's. It used to be nice to log into a game, say hello's to yuor guildmates and know alot people scrolling in the chat box. Heck people used to be well known on servers , people knew who to do raids with and who was the ninja. Now we have dungeon finders and mostly single player questlines.......I guess it's just how things evolved in this genre. I'm lucky enough to belong to a long time guild,with some RL friends, and we game together.

So yes, it's the answer you didn't want, attach yourself to a good guild, one's you have to apply to at their website always seem to be more serious guilds.............not always in the "hardcore" manner. Alot of guilds have been around for a very long time, and I much more enjoy gaming with guilds than solo jumping from game to game.

Happy gaming!

Originally posted by WHYSOMAD
I look forward to giving this title a try once it is stable and ready to Beta.

+1.........exactly what the above said.

I'm sure they could have not foreseen such a long time before DF:UW would be playable, wish they would have left up the DF1 servers.

Originally posted by Jemcrystal
Did not know it had Vindictus type movement.  Can't do that kind of game, it gives me extreme motion sickness.   I hope future games don't follow suit or I'm done online gaming.

Sorry, these types of game cause you illness. I don't enjoy thest type of games for other reasons (my dex isn't what it once was), but hope you find something to your liking.