I agree with the above, while I did greatly enjoy F3, I definitely preferred F1 and F2 more. But I think that had a lot more to do with standards at the time of their respective releases. Back in the days of F1/F2, those games stood so much higher than their competition it wasn't even close. Now days, the overall standard as been raised so high, it's really hard, if not impossible, for a game to stand out as much as they did back in the day.

Also, for the record, Bethesda already has an MMO in the works, for a year and a half now or so, at their Zenimax Online Studios office in Maryland, headed up by Matt Firor of Mythic/DAoC fame:

http://www.zenimax.com/zol_pressrelease08.01.07.htm

Originally posted by Loke666

Originally posted by Kunou

I'm curious about all the dislike shown here towards Bethesda's entry into the Fallout series... I personally loved the game, and also loved the first 2 as well. I've also seen several polls on various gaming sites asking which Fallout game people thought was the best, and across the board Fallout 3 has won, by a LARGE margin. It one MANY game of the year and various other awards throughout the industry... So why all the hate? (Like I said, just curiousity, I'm definitely not trying to tell or prove anyone they're wrong.)

 

Hmm, my friends who are Fallout fans where all dissapointed, however the guys I know that loved the Elder scrolls games loved it.

I don't think people here hate Bethesda but having the creator of the serie do the online version is not a bad idea. I am sure it will look better if Bethesda do it but the question is still if it will be a true Fallout MMO, fallout 3 kinda fellt more aimed to younger people than the first 2.

I rather prefer that Bethesda is working on a online version of Elder scrolls instead and leave Fallout to Interplay, I wouldn't mind playing both those games

I guess I must be in a minority then... I was a big fan of the first 2 Fallouts, but haven't really been a fan of the Elder Scroll series since 'Arena', which I still say was the best and they've gone steadily downhill since. Oblivion was one of my least favorite games of all time... So I'm definintely not a fan of Fallout 3 just cause I'm a Bethesda/Oblivion fan. And I also generally don't care for FPS games, so that can't be it either...

I'm curious about all the dislike shown here towards Bethesda's entry into the Fallout series... I personally loved the game, and also loved the first 2 as well. I've also seen several polls on various gaming sites asking which Fallout game people thought was the best, and across the board Fallout 3 has won, by a LARGE margin. It one MANY game of the year and various other awards throughout the industry... So why all the hate? (Like I said, just curiousity, I'm definitely not trying to tell or prove anyone they're wrong.)

Originally posted by Jackdog

@kunou

been on Silverlode since launch which is supposed to be a low pop server but seems pretty healthy to me, there was enough people without feeling crowded even before the expansion

I'm definitely open to suggestions, I'll look into it. Like I said, never played before so don't really know much about the servers. Another thing, I'll be bringing my father-in-law along for the ride. He's a long time EQ player looking for something new to play.

I rolled some toons on Landroval I think it was. Haven't actually gotten any playing in really though. And server choice is subject to change, since I have nothing committed yet really, so I'm open to suggestions. I'd like a good population without being on the uber-over-popped server, which I belive I was told was Brandywine iirc? Heard Landroval was the 2nd most populated so went there.

Meh, there's still several sitting on the shelf at my local Gamestop...

Thanks for this, I've recently picked up the game myself and am looking forward to trying it out for the first time (beyond the occasional hands-on at various conventions.) I've gotten as far as playing around with the character creation and rolling a couple characters, and then wouldn't you know it my PSU crapped out on me. Once I get that replaced I'll be back in checking out ME but your posts have really given me some great insight on what to expect as a new player. :)

I kinda like the idea personally... Cash value wise it's actually less than most other games who have a RaF system, which is usually 1 month free, so a ~$15 or so value. Plus, you have to keep in mind there's a number of people playing LotRO who have lifetime subs, so this works for them as well, since a free month of play time would be worthless to them. And it also definitely opens the door for other companies to realize they can be more creative than just always doing the free play time.

So I wanted to start a thread to get some ideas from the community at large about the forums here. Not necessarily the layout or functionality of them, thats something for another time really. I'm mainly interested in hearing feedback about how they're handled. The rules, moderation, what you like and don't like (and don't tell me you don't like being moderated, no one does) what you think could be improved, are we too harsh, too lenient, too many rules, too few, etc. I can't make any promises that I'll change things in a drastic way, but I definitely want to take a look at things and go from there. I get tons of feedback email on the subject, but it's always hard to judge from those since you have to take the vocal minority into account. Plus people who are happy rarely take the time to write in without encouragement while the ones who are unhappy are quick to pull the trigger.

So anyway, post away, I'll compile some notes on the matter and go from there.

Thanks!

I'm also one of the many who was trying this game out, to see if it'd be a good fit for my kids' first MMO, and got completely sucked in. In fact I've barely gotten around to showing it to them yet. Great game all around, and I agree with the above poster, definitely some lessons to be learned here.

We wanted to do a continuation of today's Dev Chat so I figured I'd gather up some community questions to send their way. So, post your questions here and I'll go through em and send off a bunch to the fine folks behind Runes of Magic and see what we can learn!

The duck is just to throw you off of the truth. It's going to be based on Willow, you heard it hear first!

Originally posted by pencilrick

Nice review.

One question:  Did you ask (or was there any mention) of the new secret MMO Blizzard is working on?  If it's a fantasy title, I will be especially interested.

WOW is great, but after four years, I'm ready for a new MMO world to adventure in.

Oh trust me I asked, as futile as I knew asking would be. This is Blizzard we're talking about here, they won't be talking about that project at all for quite a while to come I'm surem specially with all the attention they can milk out of D3 and SC2 for the time being, saving the new MMO for after the hype on those 2 die down is a fairly smart PR move.

Originally posted by todeswulf

Hey Richard did you hear the Buzz going around that there was some pretty Big Changes to the whole  Battle.net Forum system (Including WoWs )  in the works? One guy brought it up...and there was a quick no comment and the music started blaring again...did you hear about any of this?

Nope, the only thing I heard of regarding BNet is them trying to come up with ways to make money off of it... That may or may not include the forums, who knows. But I will say I don't know how much credibility I put in that report, cause I've never really had anyone from Blizzard so blatantly dodge one of my questions like that. Sure, it may very well be something they can't talk about, but I've never gotten the 'no comment' brush off...

Originally posted by elocke

What, no mention of the WoW movie? no preview they said could be in this year's blizzcon? no info on even when a preview could be seen? well, another reason Blizzard annoys me of late, saying things are coming, but taking their grand ole time getting it done. The word stagnant comes to mind when it comes to World of Warcraft and this supposed movie. It's why I left and why I'm not coming back until they fix the lack of content over such a length of time.

There was one very brief mention of the movie, in the Q&A panel someone asked about it, and was given a very vague "It's going to be amazing!" answer, or something along those lines. But that was it really.

Originally posted by Velsha

Hello,

Thank you for your review of the event. I was there with a friend both days. Although I am a casual game player, I have to admit I found this event some what fun for what it was. I was hoping for something that was more community driven though. Very little of what they did at this show brought the community together. It was a show rather than a gathering. Sure the opening ceremony was nice, we got to listen to the president of Blizzard give his hype about the company and the Con. I found some of the panels interesting. And the closing was very nice with all of the music and comedy.

The only parts of this show that I felt tried to bring the community together were the stage contests... Costume, Dance and /Silly contests.

Other community events I've been to, they've had banquet halls where everyone attending would have the chance to sit down and have dinner with each other while listening to the stage act. They had server gatherings, real live quests (not just visiting shops and standing in hour long lines) and contests (not just for the people that were pre-qualified). And t-shirt was given to each and every one of the guests as well as a bag of swag.

Yes, I know that doing these types of things for the mass amount of people WOW attracts would be very difficult to pull off but I feel there could have been so much more for the community rather than the show we got. Heck, I would have paid an extra $100 for a dinner and a night at Disneyland.

Blizzcon to me felt like a scaled down version of E3 rather than the community event it should have been. Would I go again? Probably, like I said before, I found some parts of it interesting.

~V
 

Oh I definitely agree, some of the other events definitely have a more "community togetherness" feel to them, but that's a lot easier to do when, take the DAoC Roundtable for example, you "sell out" of tickets at around 350 people instead of 15,000. Or even a couple thousand like SOE's events it's still doable, but once you've gotten to the numbers that BlizzCon attracts, you're pretty much forced to let the community come up with their own. I saw lots of big groups of people who met up in the 'Realm Meet-Up' areas who went from there. I will say though, having experience working on that side of the fence, setting up community events, it is very hard to balance the level of community related events versus just free time and options to do stuff. Lotsa people who come out to these things don't necessarily want the entire event to be planned out and scheduled for them, they prefer the looser approach with just optional events and panels. I couldn't imagine trying to do it at this level.

I'll be there covering the event for the site, so whatever they announce you'll hear it here. :) There's also a sticky thread in this section if you have any questions or such you'd like me to look into while there.

So I'll be heading out to Anaheim here shortly to attend/cover BlizzCon for the site and was wondering if you folks had any questions you'd like me to take along with me, or suggestions/requests for anything about the convention itself you'd like me to see/visit/photo/cover/etc. So yeah, post here and let me know, I'll compile it all together and see what I can do! :)

Originally posted by Samhael

But who got the Best Nipple Ring Story award?  Don't leave us hanging! 

Lol, no incidents this trip. :) AGDC is right around the corner though!

Originally posted by Wizardry

On the topic of flying the author did not say it was bursts only he did say it was possible to fly from town to town if you wanted to do so.

Oh?

Didn't I?

The flight in the game is there because of the combat system, it’s all about the aerial combat. Flying really isn’t meant to be used to get from point A to point B, though if you want, you certainly can. You are limited in the amount of time you can stay airborne, and if you don’t keep an eye on your timer, you WILL plummet out of the sky like a rock. And there are skills in the game targeted solely at the aerial combat (knockdowns, for example). If you thought knockdowns were a useful skill when fighting on the ground, wait ‘till you nail one a couple hundred feet in the air.

"limited in the amount of time you can stay airborne" == timer as far as I know...