All Posts by Grindalyx

Actually yes they will . Cause though a warden can tank as a secondary role. It's main role in a group is DPS. I have been in many groups with my warden. though i mainly solo with him. there are really only three classes that can tank at all or who are ment to do any tanking and that is the guardian the main tank, and captain and warden as a secondary tank. though a burglar can tank also i have seen them do so.

Wardens are ment to be a seconadary tank. they can not tank as good as a guardian but they tank better than a captain.

To me the warden is an all purpose character. Cause it can buff it's defense, HOT's and has some massive DPS attacks. the only thing it can't do is cast magic.  But that is my opinion and i am sure others have differant opinions on the warden.

Also no class in this game can be compared to other games that have similar named classes. Cause they just dont work the same.

As others have said there are lots of ways to make gold in this game. I found that doing the deeds such as killing X mobs to get a trait works well. you have to pick up everything that drops. When  your inventory is full you then goto a vendor and sell all the trash drops and put the stuff you want to keep in storage.

Now all mobs drop some coin. The humaniod mobs drop the most out of all of them. that would be any two legged walking mobs. They also drop your recipes for crafting wich will sell real well also.

As stated getting the money is easy having stuff to spend it on is another story. Housing, crafting are the two i can think of that will be a regular drain on your money in this game. Along with fast travel using the stables before you get a horse.

I would have to say the hunter and now the warden are best at soloing. My main is a hunter and i have been playing him since the game launched and i now play a warden also. Wich the warden to me is the middle road between a hunter,champion for DPS and a guardian for defense.

Of course you first have to get the gambits for defense but the HOT's that the warden get make it very survivable in most cases. Once you learn the gambits you are pretty set.

I don't worry about an add coming up behind me on my warden unless it is an elite. It is a fun class to play cause the combat is quick paced to me anyway and you have to think about your attack sequance to be able to set of the gambit you want to set off for healing,defense or attack.

Hope this helps.

Yes this is a good time to return. With the expansion out. wich i am updating right now. The mines offer alot of new aspects to the game with legendary weapons. a revamp of the traits and combat systems. along with the two new classes.

To answer your question the entrance is the same entrance the fellowship uses. It was just blocked by the watcher in the water not destroyed like it is in the movies. Book one of volume two takes you thru the process of unblocking the moria gate and gaining you access to moria.

When you reneew your sub you will have access to the official forums. you can then goto the arkenstone server thread and ask how things are on that server. I am sure there are alot of people passing time on the officials right now. I know that two of the most populated servers are brandywine, elendilmir. I play on elendilmir and run my kinship there.

Welcome back and you will love moria. I was in the beta for it and loved what they did with it.

Welcome to the game. If you are playing on the NA servers elendilmir is a good server the unofficial oceanic server so it basically has two prime times. There are alot of great kinships from closed beta on this server also.

As far as the EU servers go i can't make any recommendations.

I have pre ordered the game and i am looking forward to seeing moria the most. though i am looking forward to all the new content.

would of done the digital upgrade but for some reason WA is borked tax law wise and i can't get it that way here.

Welcome to the game. I been playing this game since closed beta started and i haven't looked back. This is a great game for couples to duo together in. Lots of content that you will find to keep you busy.

If you find yourself on the elendilmir server look me up. My mains name is grindalyx. I would be happy to help you anyway i can.

When the moria expansion comes out there will be the new classes that to me sound like a better fit for what your looking for. My main is  a hunter and i have been on two raids in the time i been playing. Raiding is not a must do in this game. wich i like.

Goodluck in the game.

Originally posted by Tyranix

Thought Durins Bane had a Sword and Whip but maybe he doesnt equip them until after the release lol. They couldnt have made him better than that. They outdid themselves

Durin's bane sword and whip are made of fire and with it being a Maia wich is essentially an angel. He can produce them at anytime he wants too. Unlike gandalf and the other wizards his powers were not dimished and restricted by the valar.

Originally posted by WaryJanus

 Well I guess my problem with the Lotro classes is the fact that there isn't that many of them. Also they seem very... strict? I mean a guardian is a straight tank, champion aoe dps, etc... and they don't seem to (or be able to) deviat much from their role. I mean the nice thing about WAR is that there's so many classes, and yeah you may say all the tanks are really the same, which is maybe a valid point, but even if their differently strictly in flavor, they *feel* different. Lotro's classes seem like their sorta.. ok here's your role, now go do that, and nothing else. That's why I'm looking forward to the expansion the new classes seem a little more hybrid to me, which will be nice, to have classes that are capable of different playstyles.

I have seen and used a chapion to tank, not as good as a guardian but able to do so. I have also seen a captian off tank. The classes are able to do other jobs they all have a secondary job that they can be used in but not excel at to the point they replace another classes primary job.

With MOM will also come a rework of the combat system. Wich will change the way the classes play to a certain degree.

I don't see the classes bein g as strict as you make them out to be. I have been playing this game since closed beta started and i have tried all the classes to some degree. Not all of them were my cup of tea and that is what i expected cause not everyone plays the same.

Originally posted by vala2008

Originally posted by Grindalyx

Originally posted by vala2008

As nice as LOTRO is and the company it fails for delivering good pvp. I was playing ettenmoors (both sides) a lot and it was fun but very limited. This is Lord Of The Rings....big, huge battles, but you will only find that in WAR. Same reason a lot of the pvpers from AoC have gone over to war too.

 

Do you really find that LOTRO PVP is lacking compared to WAR PVP when LOTRO was never billed as a PVP game. They have said from the start that the game was a story driven PVE game. So it is not surprising that WAR has better PVP.

And for the record if you ever read the books wich this game is bases on. The huge wars your talking about make up maybe 10% of the books in total. The battles were huge but were a small part of the books. The majority of the books deal with frodos journey and the trials and tribulations he goes thru in his battle against the power of the ring. What happens to the fellowship when it splits up at the end of the fellowship of the ring.

In the movies the war aspect of the books was brought out more to intise the audience into watching. Wich makes sense considering people are not going to pay that amount of money to watch frodo, sam, pippen and merry take two weeks to get from the shire to bree. Or watch tom bombadil skip around like a flamer singing his songs. Or sit thru the days it takes the fellowship to get thru moria.

Personally i love the game the way it is and i don't need huge wars to enjoy myself in a game. One of the reasons i won't be playing WAR. The playstyle doesn't interest me like the playstyle of LOTRO does. I say each to their owne.

 

Well yes i have read the entire set twice in my time and the additional booksm in addition to playing the old tabletop game for a few years many years ago and in all the contense the threat of war or war itself is an important aspect of the genre. I wasnt, however, talking about lore at all nor did i suggest that the game was built for pvp as we all know it wasnt, I stated an observation that pvp isnt good in that game its as simple as that take it for as its written and not as you assume i have written.

And i was pointing out that the war aspect of the books is just a small part of what the books are actually about. Yes the threat of war is there but it never materializes in a huge dominate way like in the movies. I have read the books more times than i care to remember over the last 25+ years. I was asking you a simple question cause to me it appeared you were very dissapionted in the fact PVP isn't a major part of the game.

If i miss understood you i am sorry but it is awfully hard to get a persons meening on a forum unless they come right out and tell you what they meen.  Thanks for clarifying your stance on this as i hope i have also clarified mine.

Originally posted by vala2008

As nice as LOTRO is and the company it fails for delivering good pvp. I was playing ettenmoors (both sides) a lot and it was fun but very limited. This is Lord Of The Rings....big, huge battles, but you will only find that in WAR. Same reason a lot of the pvpers from AoC have gone over to war too.

Do you really find that LOTRO PVP is lacking compared to WAR PVP when LOTRO was never billed as a PVP game. They have said from the start that the game was a story driven PVE game. So it is not surprising that WAR has better PVP.

And for the record if you ever read the books wich this game is bases on. The huge wars your talking about make up maybe 10% of the books in total. The battles were huge but were a small part of the books. The majority of the books deal with frodos journey and the trials and tribulations he goes thru in his battle against the power of the ring. What happens to the fellowship when it splits up at the end of the fellowship of the ring.

In the movies the war aspect of the books was brought out more to intise the audience into watching. Wich makes sense considering people are not going to pay that amount of money to watch frodo, sam, pippen and merry take two weeks to get from the shire to bree. Or watch tom bombadil skip around like a flamer singing his songs. Or sit thru the days it takes the fellowship to get thru moria.

Personally i love the game the way it is and i don't need huge wars to enjoy myself in a game. One of the reasons i won't be playing WAR. The playstyle doesn't interest me like the playstyle of LOTRO does. I say each to their owne.

From the sounds of MOM the legendary weapons will be a big end game activity. These weapons will have to be lvl'd up and you can always find one better than you got and have to start lvling it too. It will be interesting to see how this plays out.

Originally posted by Snorf

Not surprising that a boring game like LOTRO gets hit hard when a new game comes out.

Of course many will come back and Moria will help also, but if lotro was thrilling as it should be they would not have left in such numbers at all.

When a game hooks you, you usually dont need to try another.

 

Snorf

Thanks for your opinion on the game, duly noted that you find it boring. Just cause you find it boring doesn't meen it is to everyone. I find loud mouth overbearing woman boring but i don't go around bashing them because of my opinion.

One thing i wish they would do is add a recruitment bulliten board to the game. Were kinships can post that they are recuiting and who to conact. I would even pay game money to post on such a board for my kinship.

It actually is a mountain sheep not a yak and for the inside of a cave with all the treachorous terrain a mountain sheep makes alot more sense than a horse since mountain sheep are more sure footed in such conditions.

Originally posted by Berndr

Originally posted by Grindalyx

I wouldn't worry about them changing the game due to PVP. Tolkien enterprises is pretty dead set against anything that would be lore breaking from happening in this game. It  was a stretch just for them to get PVP into the game and get tolkien enterprise to agree to it.

There contractual agreement with tolkien enterprise prevents them from doing alot of things and world FFA PVP is one of them. I think this survey was just to get an idea of who actually takes part in monster play and if it is worth the time they put into expanding it.

 

 

to say that PVP is a lore braking is just plain stupid, the reason why they did not go for PVP is  because they found it too dificult and too  complex to create an evil leveling  sistem and storyline of quests that would mirror the LOTR books,,,

they never said it was imposible just too complex to bother

How on earth an orc attacking and fighting any of the  free people players is lore braking ?

well thats what they kept doing in hobbit and LOTR

If you Imagine that you are an elf fight an orc , so what does it matter to you  if that orc is being played by computer AI , or a player , In regards to Tolkien lore it is  still an orc ,,,

But what you might refer as lore-braking would be hobbits fighting hobitts , or elves v elves

but I am sure that  no Pvp fun  is asking for that extreme , just plain old good vs evil

First i take offense to being called stupid by you. If you desire to disagree with me that is fine, Second i was not saying that an orc attacking an elf was lore breaking. I was saying that an elf attacking a hobbit or another elf is lore breaking. What alot of people are asking for is elf vs elf or elf vs hobbit. The PVP that is in the game is what you describe and is not lorebreaking cause it is good vs evil. I have never said that the current PvMP is bad or needs to be taken out. I just don't think that the OP's concerns are founded. The reason they did not create a evil races like the good races is cause the lore does not support the evil races like it supports the good races. The books go in detail about the every day life of the good (free people) races. All it tells us about the evil races is they are subject to sauron's will and have no real freedom outside his will. Not like the free people anyway.
 

Orcs are able to think for themselve but always have that fear of what will happen to them if they act to independent. It has also been stated by tolkien that when sauron enforces his will upon his minions that said minions free will is suppressed. Turbine is subject to following the books as part of their license agreement wich meens they can't just create evil races and give them towns and stuff that is not in the books or hinted at in the books.

I also don't understand what everyone expects us to fight as mobs if all of the evil races are playable then they can't be used as mobs for us to attack to lvl up. The major mobs we fight are goblins, orcs, dunelanders, hillmen. If all of them were playable races it would make no sense to me to have them as mobs for lvling purposes.

You make the assumption that they didn't do PVP like you wanted cause they found it to hard or difficult to do. but that is your opinion and if you ever talked to devs and the reasons for them doing what they did with the game you would see it is not the reason they didn't do PVP the way so many want. You do understand what license stipulations are right? The little things in a license that allow you to do certain things and not do certain things. The license allows them to expand upon what is hinted at in the books and no were in the books is the daily life of a orc hinted at other than they are pure evil and have no purpose than to kill each other and the free people of middle earth.

I been following this game since 2004 and been playing it since closed beta started almost 2 years ago. And i have never seen or heard them say it was to complex to bother with. But i have seen and heard them say it was against the license. And if they violated the license tolkien enterprise can pull the plug on the game and that is it. End of game.

Originally posted by Kruniac2

Originally posted by Papadam

Originally posted by ghettobooste

But just on a new PvMP based server.

With the upcoming expansion, this would be a great time to do something like that I think.  Of course it won't happen, but that is my suggestion.  The 1 zone for PvMP is just not enough.  It is a great system it just needs to be expanded.

 

Even if I think that Ettenmoors is enough and alot of fun.. I agree with you! It would be alot of fun if all the high level zoens were open to monster players!

But it wont happen and its probably for the best :)

 

No, it isnt for the best. All of the emo whores who want to hide behind LOTRO's PVMP style can play any server BESIDES a dedicated PvP server. No troubles, right?

 

Hell, give EVERYONE, Freeps and Creeps, Level 50 characters on this "PvP Server", and open all of the zones to us. Let us go wild, storming through The Shire as a warg, or something. There isnt a reason not to, unless the devs feel that by doing this it may become too popular, and no one will want to pay attention to their ub3r scr1pt qu3stz, y0!

 

Thanks for your opinion it has been duly noted. And for as far as the reason there is no world PVP that has nothing to do with it's popularity but rest soley in the license that they have with tolkien enterprise. PVP doesn't fit the lore the way you all want it. PvMP was a stretch to even get in the game in the form it is in now. Besides the fact that they have an awsome game that doesn't need PVP like you want. and yes this is my opinion and shared by alot of people who play the game that i know.