Amazing bunch of folks over at NGNG. People should listen. Good stuff.

Your kinda late to the ball.  But yep. Its now officially a demo.

They pulled a bait and twitch. That pissed everyone off.

SWOTR is just an example. The point is the unethical tactics, the strong arming procedures, and the taking away of gamers choice.

I came here to spread the word. Every little bit helps.

Steam vs EA. Its the lesser of the two evils.

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For those who haven't caught wind yet EA is trying to strong are gamers into using its "cloud gaming/marketplace" program instead of steam but making its game content limited to Origins.

They already stated SWTOR will be an "Origin" exclusive, meaning there will be no hard disk and you'll be forced to use their program.  EA unlike steam is trying to be very biased in their efforts. This tactic is very unethical is the buisness world.

They will be following this tactic to Direct 2 drive and other online retailers.

http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/06/15/crysis-2-vanishes-from-steam-now-listed-as-only-on-origin/

Tell them to stop trying to break the community.

This petition is just that.

http://www.petitiononline.com/EAmistak/petition.html

Here is their first example. We need to clip this is the balls before it goes anywhere. If you agree sign it, if not don't. Its as simple as that.

Go on their main site, log in, and click the "gates of hell" icon. Then apply. I haven't heard of ONE person not getting in.

access is linked to the account. No need to use a key.

One problem. will it be as laggy at the PC servers? Because then it will just blow.

Haaa really? a Nail?  Not lilkely. People still love palying AO and they will continue to play it. Its still extremly popular in Korea. So if you really thing its going to "die." Your a retard with a job.

ah ok excellent.

Thank you for the info. Last I saw Mortal Online didn't have a trial. Now they do. I'll give them a shot.

DF is selling the game and 1 month sub for $10. I grabbed it anyways.

Welcome to Hellgate London.

I always play two mmo's at the same time. This basically lets me not get burnt out on anything for a very long time.

My question is I've done the 14 day trial of Darkfall. giant sandbox, Huge open world, Full looting ect ect.

It sounds like Mortal online has all those things too. So my question is whats the difference?

I'm NOT asking which is better. Since thats opinion based and it makes babies bleed.

LARPs :)

damn it..

Why is the new thread button larger then the reply button .>.<

Gold. ALOT of fucking gold.   And frustration.  The worst death penality ever. 

When I translated the rules over to rift couple weeks ago. I tried it out myself.  20+ is a bitch lol.

Sometimes you get a good spec. Sometimes you get a bunch of Dots and no pet lol. :P

I've been in since alpha.

Currently lv 32.

you haven't read the entire post have you?

Its something to do while you play.  Whats funner then trying to get a completely randomized multiclass to work. :P

My guilds already done this and its a blast.

I decided to post this here incase anyone gets bored with character creation. ;) enjoy. Yes I posted this in the offical fourms too.

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There is a game we played in DDO with character creation. It was called GIMP or the "Get into Multi-class Project".
Since we are already multi-classed by design I'd thought this would be fun.
Here are the rules. I've changed them to fit RIFT.
There are two ways to play.

ORIGONAL: Make a new character. From scratch.

Altered: use an empty role.( This is cheating, it breaks the item rules, but most people don't want to make an alt.)
ADDITIONS for playing altered:
1. Must have completed all the normal class quests for your base class.
2. PVP CLASS isn't added since its ONLY pvp oriented. If you want to make an ONLY PVP GIMP, Make it on another role. :P
3. Use an empty Role(spec) no need to make a new character like DDO. (This is cheating though)
4. Have fun and be honest. If you are going to go through a dungeon as a group of gimps. Don't change your role to something well thought out.

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USE THE /ROLL# command (example /roll 3)
You will have to do this with either your main your altering OR with another character on chat.
Originally Posted by THE RULES
A GIMP is a character of a randomly chosen race, three randomly chosen classes, who randomly chooses one of his three classes to advance upon leveling. GIMPs are generally ill-equipped. You'll find no twinks here! (unless played as an altered which is too late)

Character creation
Players will need to make official rolls. An official roll is a die roll made with 2 guild witnesses.

First step is to select the race: Roll a d3.

-Then, a players rolls for classes. He rolls on 1d8 Once a class is rolled, it cannot be rejected unless it is excluded by a prior class. (can't be two pyromancers for example)
-Numbers 1-8 will be according to the List below.
-The choices of class are final for the GIMP role.
-These classes are rolled on at each quest that gives a new role in the tutorial zone at the beginning of the game

Leveling
-Player rolls d3. You spend a point in the rolled class. 1,2,or 3 from left to right respectively.
-You roll once per skill point, till you are out skill points.
-When a roll has been made you may put your skill point anywhere you want in that selected tree.

EXAMPLE
Trenton want to make a GIMP. He's playing guardian, He rolls a d3 and scored a 2. He's an high elf. He rolls a d4 and its a 1. He's a Warrior. (or opens a free role slot if he's playing an altered since race and class were already picked. CHEATER!) Then he rolls an 8 on a D8, he is a Beastmaster. Then he rolls a 1, he is a Champion. He next rolled a 8, Beastmaster, but he can't be a Beastmaster since he is already one. He finally rolls a 4, Warlord, so Trenton will be a Champion/Beastmaster/Warlord

Trenton has Skill points to spent
He makes an official roll on a D3, telling his mates that 1 = Beastmaster, 2= Champion, 3 = Warlord. (left to right in order received) He rolls a 3. Trenton will thus put 1 skill point into Warlord where ever he wishes. This will continue untill you run out of skill points.

wait wait wait wait
That means we can't plan anything ahead!
Exactly.


LOOT
Gimp multiclassing means nothing if you have high end to level crafted gear, so the loot is also very restricted:

- A GIMP can NOT use crafted gear.
- A GIMP can only use what he gets in the chests, mobs, or as end rewards. He can also use the money he gets to buy from regular merchants (pots, scrolls, wands, mounts,leveling skills).
- A GIMP cannot, ever, use the brokers or the auction house.
- A GIMP can give an item he recieved as an end reward to a party member, if done immediately after the quest/rift/invasion. Once the group disband, or once a new quest is selected, the trade cannot happen. This way, after a quest, a group of GIMPs can all banter together as they select end-rewards.
Need,Greed, or Pass as necessary, Remember there is no trading to other characters that are not GIMPS. So no need to role need on plate for an alt if your a mage. ALSO In the case of long drawn out invasions and quests/dungeons list your artifacts after you get them.
- A GIMP cannot receive any items from another source.
- The only exception is, at ONE time, a gimp can receive, ONCE, a Large slotted bag max of 12 slots.
BUT they have to buy it from the merchant and make it there on foot. (98 gold)
- A fellow party member can, before, during, or after a quest, give potions, to a fellow member.
- GIMPS can share quests.

Other Rules
- GIMPs or GIMP Mode can only group with other GIMPS or people in GIMP mode.
- GIMPs can use any lame, cheesy, strategy, like safe spots, etc..., because, after all, they are gimps, and will need all the help they can get.
- IF Altered wants to play his gimp role OR as his main he has to remove ALL CRAFTED ITEMS off his character and start playing with the Original item rules.
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List
Guardian races /Defiant(top to bottom)
1- Mathosians / Eth
2- High Elves / Kelari
3- Dwarves / Bahmi

Warrior Mage Rogue Cleric
1- Champion 1- Elementalist 1- Nightblade 1- Purifier
2- Reaver 2- Warlock 2- Ranger 2- Inquisitor
3- Paladen 3- Pyromancer 3- Blade Dancer 3- Sentinel
4- Warlord 4- Stormcaller 4- Assassin 4- Justicar
5- Paragon 5- Archon 5- Rift Stalker 5- Shaman
6- Rift blade 6- Necromancer 6- Marksman 6- Warden
7- Void Knight 7- Dominator 7- Sabetour 7- Druid
8- Beastmaster 8- Choromancer 8- Bard 8- Cabalist

Its takes almost everyone that other MMO's have done and adds its own color of polish I've never seen. WoW doesn't even shine this well.

Its nothing new. But I fucking love it. I'll be hanging around for awhile till the firt xpack, DAOC style batle grounds, PvP Dungeons and what not. :)

Cross server? No. Keep the dungeon loot in the server it was found on. Cross server crap outside of arena pvp screws up economies.

WOOOT!

Aaaaa ok I gotcha. So its not someone being serious. Its just a combination of ignorance, lack of conversation skills, misunderstanding of general live values, with a nice helping of complete retardation.

Awesome. Thank you very much. I was starting to wonder if people were being serious. Now that I know they are I can just feel sorry, pat them on the head, and give them a rat poison laced cookie.

You have a good day. Thanks again.

*edit* I came from a time of perma death, perma item loss, and the "golden age" of mmos' So this saying just really pissed me off. I thought they were just trolling on purpose. *thumb up*