Originally posted by Aramanu2

Kill 10 rats. >_>

The worse for me was in Silkroad where it said "Get 25 tiger tails" and I had to kill over 100 to get them.  Shouldn't all tigers have a tail?  Then when I brought them back the quest giver said "Oh I made a mistake I need another 50", thats when I quit the game.

 

This uses the same engine an feel as Outparks - Divine Souls.  Ripper X you should do an article on the difference between the two games.

Its easy enough, if you're sick of them then don't watch them.  I personally like them.  I don't like chick flicks but I can care less if they make them because I don't watch them.  Comic book movies are in now.  In the next few years it'll be something else.  Comic book and video game movies are easier because the IP is already there and people already like the characters.

This uses the same engine and has the same feel of Outparks - Divine Souls. 

Originally posted by ErifNevow

I loved Global Agenda while I was in the desert, with my freinds. Once that was done... well it was pretty done for me. We did PvP for a while, but the lack of a decent community to talk to, and the closed mindedness of said community, really lost that game for me.

 

Still it was phenominal, and I intend to return one day, just not today.

 

I agree, a friend of mine and I played all the quests and it was fun until we got back into dome city.  Then it became like a lobby shooter (except while in the lobby waiting for your game to begin you can run around Dome City).  It got old after that and we both quit.

Originally posted by Romse

hmm... can't really tell where this is gonna go...

If you can't afford a computer to run modern games then you really don't have that much to spend on videogames right?

That leaves people that want to play on devices... stuff like tablets, netbooks and smartphones. But most of those platforms are controlled pretty tightly.

Can't say I wish Walmart any sort of success anyways.

 

You're joking right?  Its one thing to go and buy a computer that could cost anywhere from $500 for a lower end computer and $2000+ for a higher end and being able to play the same games you can play on them on a 4-5 year old computer.  This is a game changer....if the price is right and the quality is good...you can buy the cheapest computer and run the highest quality games.  Also if you buy tablet or have a phone you can use a bluetooth keyboard and mouse, hook it up to a big monitor or TV and play on them.  Sky's the limit.

I wouldn't doubt it if the next round of consoles (especially from Microsoft...probably not the Wii U from Nintendo, not sure about Sony) will have something like this built in.  Maybe not only streaming games, I think they'll have disks, or thumb drive or some way other than streaming, but I think there will be some kind of streaming.  Maybe if you buy the game you can run the downloadable content streaming, or if you don't want to buy a game you have the option to rent it through streaming, or games that are just downloadable will have an option to stream if you have a good enough connection. 

There is one other company thats doing this (OTOY) and I haven't heard anything about them.  I really thought I'd hear about them before Gaikai since they seem to be tight with AMD.

Originally posted by adam_nox

To answer the question, no.  Hardly anyone asks hardly anything of mmos.  The bar has been set so low it practically rolls along the ground, and devs do very little to change this.  MMORPGs are some of the saddest games ever.  Imagine if any of them were single player.  They'd be about as pathetic as farmville.  I've played mmos on deserted servers, and that's when it becomes apparent how absolutely vapid this genre is.

I couldn't have said it better myself.  I play games like Gears of War, COD and Fable and wish MMO's can be like this.  Have fun, quests that are different than just (Kill 24 spiders).  I understand this would be hard to do and maybe even to hard for todays tools but I can still wish.  I've played so many MMO's that after 5-10 mintues of playing I flash back to WoW or some other game that and stopped playing because I got board and I just uninstall it.  It looks like future MMO game mechanics will be better and as better tools and easier processes become developed we will get better games.  Until then we complain because we want someone to make those easier development tools.

 

It's simply impossible right now for anyone to ask too much of mmo's, the only thing anyone ever asks is that they rise to the standard of regular games, and they have yet to do this.

 

Here are a few questions and observations.

How will they do this?  Will they start with the game and build the series off the battles the game had?   Will they start off with the series and build the MMO off of the show?  OR will they do it tandomly?  This is an important question because if they do it tandomly then its going to be hard for Trion to keep up I would think.  Unless they're going to re-use locations.  They could have a season, then start the game during the break and then build series 2 off of the battles and storyline of the game.  Is there going to be a story to the game or that will also lead into the show or is it just going to be battles in the game that show the outcome of what happend to the realestate and who won it in battle? 

Also the show depends on the game and the game depends on the show.  If either of them are bombs it could mean the cancellation of both.   If one tanks will the other?  Maybe, maybe not. Since their both together its more likely but not for sure.

I called it!  I said Perfect World would be a good fit for Cryptic.  I guess they thought so too. :)  I think Star Trek Online will become F2P soon.  Perfect World doesn't have any P2P games.

I bet the big wigs take huge salaries that take a big bite out their profits. 

Originally posted by Guintu

I think Gamers First or Perfect World International would be good companies to buy them.  The thing is Gamers First is already trying to reboot APB and Taikodom so maybe they don't want to deal with 3 more games.

I really don't think Sony should buy them.  They screw up every game they touch, look at The Matrix Online and Star Trek Online, plus they just dumped The Agency.

 

 

I meant Star Wars online not Star Trek. 

I think Gamers First or Perfect World International would be good companies to buy them.  The thing is Gamers First is already trying to reboot APB and Taikodom so maybe they don't want to deal with 3 more games.

I really don't think Sony should buy them.  They screw up every game they touch, look at The Matrix Online and Star Trek Online, plus they just dumped The Agency.

I'd love to see something like this in a game.  the first time you're caught cheating they take your character and put it in a pink costume and every time you change into something else it'll turn into that pink costume, even if you strip naked (down to underware).  The second time you're caught cheating they put a week bounty on your head and give the people who kill you some special loot.  Every time you spawn you have that bounty on you and the pink costume.  You can't kill anything, turn in any quests until in world chat you say "I'm sorry for being a pussy little, spinless cheater".  If you're caught a third time you get the pink costume and bounty on you and when you die your account is banned.

Just humiliate them.

Originally posted by DeathWolf2u

Seriously??????? exploits????? as the main cheating done by players?

 

Let me give the real senario since you obviously missed it completely in regards to the hackers or cheaters whichever you prefer, same thing.

There is really only two types of exploits that effect a game and the player base 1. money duplication and 2. exploiting the game environment to use against other players in PKing.

 

However the true hackers probably wiped the sweat from their foreheads when you never acknowledged their putrid kind which I am going to do now.

 

The main problem is more with the increasing demand by players who want more PvP and then even more. These are the same players who lack a set of balls to play in the FPS online games where it is 100% more competitive and takes real skill behind the keyboard than any mmorpg and yes there is hackers in them as well but they can still be killed.

 

Maybe it's because their script programs that they so love to use in PvP that can be easily obtained by a 5 year old do not work in FPS online games...hmmmmmmm...yes take a moment to suck that in......

 

I'll use myself as an example, I love FPS online games and playing against real opponents. On the same note I hate PvP in mmorpg's because frankly....I'm not going to have a chance against the many hacks and especially the scripting programs that they use to basically cheat.

 

I'm not going to divulge how I know this but I have my facts behind it.

 

The only way a player knows in mmorpg's when PvPing that the players are not scripting is if they are playing with their real life friends who they know 100% are not using script programs. Other than that keep on guessing who is actually playing legit, most do not, FACT!

 

I agree a person using scripts in an MMO can't go against a ligit FPS player but there is cheating in FPS' too.  There are wall hacks and auto aims, a friend of mine even showed me a cheat in Combat Arms that will allow a player down stairs in a building with no windows shoot someone outside.

Cheating does hurt others, weather it be the economy or griefing, or a number of other things.  I agree that more games should handle cheating like Guild Wars.  The fact is that cheating isn't going anywhere unless a technology comes out that makes it impossible.  Onlive is a technology like that.  The thing right now I don't think its possible to have an MMO on Onlive with hundreds if not thousands of players playing at once.  Game streaming is the way to stop cheating.  The problem is only one company is around that does it (there are other companies that are working on such technologies as well, but they're not out yet).  Also with the US' shotty boradband there is no assurance that everyone that wasnts to play the game will be able to.  With the way these greedy ISP's are so far I say the technology will be good for all in about 15-20 years.

Originally posted by Drew

They're included because they're MMOs, and we're an MMO website.  It's generally understood that not all MMO players, especially the "vets", are too interested in browser based, but many players do partake.  We appreciate you vets, but the website isn't just for you.  The casual players who like the browser games come here too.  No offence taken, by the way.

 

Well said.  I too like the idea of browser based games.  I play and enjoy both types.  I haven't gotten onto the beta for this game yet but it looks fun.

The only thing Sony does half way decent now is make movies and TV.  There games suck and there tech is becoming second rate too.  Now is the time for Samsung, and LG, so long Sony.  Get rid of all your top management and get people who care about gaming and tech.

Is this really surprising? It is Sony we're talking about here. They've screwed up more MMO's than have been successful. You hear more about Everquest 1 than Everquest 2, until recently I didn't hear anything about Planetside for years, I didn't even know Vanguard was still around, they screwed up Star Wars, they totally screwed up The Matrix. Did I miss any?

I was hoping The Agency would be good but I'm not surprised they stopped working on it. Its just to bad they didn't sell the IP to someone else like so many other game devs have done (look at Mythos, and APB, and others). Sony believes so little in their product that they won't even try and sell it to someone else and maybe recoup some of the money they lost.

I agree with what you said, but I can say that about most MMO's out there.  Most MMO's have the same type of questing and fighting style.  There are some that have tried something different and some coming out that look like they may try different more twitch based fighting and more dynamic questing, but only time will tell if it works or not. 

Originally posted by alderdale

Im glad Devs have stopped calling games like these MMO's and instead just refer to them as online games.  The only person that hinted MMO players would be interested was the (pre)reviewer, Garret this is no more an MMO than Diable multiplayer was.

 

Now if they'd just stop calling Lobby FPS' MMO's.  Everytime I see an FPS with a lobby and they call it an MMO I want to scream!  This is more an MMO than say Cross Fire. :(

Originally posted by battleaxe

SciFi (sounds like "Wi-Fi") is what the channel used to be.  SyFy (sounds and acts like "sissy) is what the channel has become.  Wrestling, "reality" paranormal investigations, ruining decent SciFi shows by putting them at stupid times, and creating shows from dumb jokes (a vampire, a ghost, and a werewolf walk into a bar...ouch!) are just efforts to become mainstream in a similiar vein to how MTV so very rarely actually shows music videos.

 

"creating shows from dumb jokes (a vampire, a ghost, and a werewolf walk into a bar...ouch!)"

Being Human was a BBC show first.  You can see it on BBCA.  Both versions are actually pretty good.