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Originally posted by ShakyMo
Originally posted by Piiritus
Originally posted by ShakyMo
Originally posted by JasonJ
Originally posted by ShakyMo
It doesn't have "a huge pvp focus"

They've probably spent MORE time on pve than pvp.

Daoc was a 50/50 pve/pvp game.

You guys are making out like this game us darkfall or planetside it something.

[mod edit]

Complete BS.

The BASE game is built AROUND PvP.

Closed off faction lands with set races so as not to confuse people who the enemey are while funnelling ALL PvE to the CENTER PvP lands.

THE ENTIRE GAME IS BUILT AROUND THEIR PVP IDEA which is RvRvR.

There is no amount of spin you can put on it to make it NOT a PvP focused game with its current build...hell, even the games trailer is 100% about the 3 faction PvP!

Theres no amount of spin you can put on it to turn it into some frikin everquest clone where you can prance around showing off your latest raid set, while the crafting and pvp peasants run behind you eating your scraps.

DAOC is not a PVP focused game.  Its one of a handful of games that focus on PVE and PVP EQUALLY.

Darkfall, EvE, planetside, warhammer are pvp focused games

EQ, SWG, wow, swtor, rift, tsw, aoc, eq2, coh etc... are PVE focuses games.

Hopefully this game will at least copy one great feature from DAOC, being fair to ALL playstyles.

but i suspect TESO will be less PVP focused than DAOC.  Mainly because they have a bunch of publisher pressure going "be more like wow that sold 10 million", and like all MMOs in beta it is currently getting a lot of squeckiest wheel that gets the oil whine from the hardcore PVE people who infest every MMO beta and turn the games towards the worse. probably end up a 75% PVE / 25% PVP game

Really? I've mostly seen so-called PvPers whining about balance and the colour of the carrot they are running after. And people talking about Daoc in every single TESO thread itself shows how little that game is about TES. Probably just a skin to get enough cash from initial sales. Hope it's not though. 

Point out a thread where people have gone "remove all PVE"

Hardcore PVE types are the biggest whinners in MMOdom.  They jump on every beta wanting every mmo to be like WOW "before it started giving out welfare epics to scrubs"

Seems we have had a tad bit different experiences then. I've mostly seen PvPers whining over everything, you have seen PvEers doing the same. Also, I was not talking about PvPers demanding of removing all PvE but them whining constantly. Maybe it's the new generation of MMO players who just like to complain. Personally I don't mind optional PvP at all, especially if it's not just some stupid minigame but RvR thing. But I also like good PvE with a huge world to explore.

Originally posted by colddog04
Originally posted by Piiritus
Originally posted by colddog04
Originally posted by Piiritus
Why you GW2 fanatics prove your game's superiority always bashing other games? If GW2 were that good you'd not have to do that imo. I've played both and have 2 level 80 characters in GW2 btw and I say this: TSW is a superior RPG game with horrific stories and quests while GW2 has bigger world and several fun extras but the shittiest RPG part I've ever experienced since EQ. GW2 is an MMO but not MMORPG.

You do realize that we are in a GW2 forum where someone is saying that, "TSW is by all counts a far greater product." He also says that the animations are "super bad." Perhaps you should be asking that guy why he insists on comparing the two and insulting one over the other. I don't know. I was just expressing my opinion about both combat systems.

 

Yes I realize that and as I said I play GW2 myself as well. So try to remain civil, this subforum does not belong to GW2 fanbois only. OP played the game and did not like it, he got his backlash. 

Oh, was I not being civil? I apologize.

I apologize too if I was steaming there. Just that TSW bashing got me a bit irritated because I hoped both games' communities have moved on already. No need to bash games that people enojy playing imo. Choice is always good.

In reality this map can depict huge, not so huge and even very small areas. They can compress the whole world in a shoe box if they are lazy but then again they can create a living a breathing world of TES. Time will tell but those talking heads Zenimax currently have create only confusion and doubt.
Originally posted by colddog04
Originally posted by Piiritus
Why you GW2 fanatics prove your game's superiority always bashing other games? If GW2 were that good you'd not have to do that imo. I've played both and have 2 level 80 characters in GW2 btw and I say this: TSW is a superior RPG game with horrific stories and quests while GW2 has bigger world and several fun extras but the shittiest RPG part I've ever experienced since EQ. GW2 is an MMO but not MMORPG.

You do realize that we are in a GW2 forum where someone is saying that, "TSW is by all counts a far greater product." He also says that the animations are "super bad." Perhaps you should be asking that guy why he insists on comparing the two and insulting one over the other. I don't know. I was just expressing my opinion about both combat systems.

 

Yes I realize that and as I said I play GW2 myself as well. So try to remain civil, this subforum does not belong to GW2 fanbois only. OP played the game and did not like it, he got his backlash. 

Why you GW2 fanatics prove your game's superiority always bashing other games? If GW2 were that good you'd not have to do that imo. I've played both and have 2 level 80 characters in GW2 btw and I say this: TSW is a superior RPG game with horrific stories and quests while GW2 has bigger world and several fun extras but the shittiest RPG part I've ever experienced since EQ. GW2 is an MMO but not MMORPG.
Originally posted by Maelwydd
Originally posted by Nanfoodle

 

I have been MMOing from the date on EQ1 launch day. Been around the block 14 odd years just on MMOs, been gaming almost 30 years.

Been gaming and online longer then you on both counts. Does that mean my opinion is more creditable then yours? Nope so don't act like you MUST be right because you have been gaming a long time.  

Still wont see me hating and acting I know what a game is really like before I get to really try it.

But you are happy to totally support everything about the game and call people that have a different opinion 'hate monger's....based on how much time playing the game?

If the game does not fit what I want I look for another.

Well some people hope to express their desire and stick around in the hopes that it might actually meet their desires for the game. Is that wrong? (remember, having a differnt opinion doesn't make someone a hater simply because you don't like the fact they have a different opinion from you!).

 

I may say why I dont like the game and but then I walk away. Taking over every thread where fans of the game are trying to talk about the game and turning everyone of them into a hate thread is where I am getting sick of it. If the game is that bad, then go find one you like. Many here have said very clearly, unless the game is remade from the ground up. They would not play it, yet they are here every day bashing in every thread.  

The discussion continues and so, funnily enough, people continue to discuss it. As for taking over every thread.....what was the point of this thread if you felt enough had already been said? Thats right, YOU are the problem too.

Im personally sick of the gear grind and happy with a MMO that focuses on teaming and fun over tones of heavy raid content that gets you fishing for new gear every 6-12 month. Games like GW2 and ESO are right what I am looking for. Something I can log on and play for 2-3 hours and skill matters over gear. Where I can get in any team even though I have shorter time to make my char uber like I did back in the day with EQ1 and WoW. DAoC was my first taste of that type of game play and I have been waiting for a game to do that again.

One has to ask, if you want games like EQ1, WOW, GW2 and DAOC....they are still out there, play them and stop whining on these boards about how people don't agree with you and so must be haters.

I think ESO can do that. As a fan of the game I would like at least one thread where the hate stays out and we can talk about the game. That has yet to happen here.

There is NO hate. Just you spouting the term in every thread simply because people have a different opinion then you do. As soon as you realise people can disagree with you, quite strongly, and a good discussion can take place reguardless the sooner you might realise that YOU are causing a problem because you cannot get it out of your head that someone who disagree's with you has just as valid an opinion and is not a hater by default because of that opposed view.

Well written answer. I'm not hater, I'm just afraid that this game can be yet another cash grab and ruination of a great IP. Hope it's not because I'd like to play an Elder Scrolls MMO.

Originally posted by Theocritus
Originally posted by Vorch

Gratz :)

Originally posted by khartokhar3

sry but that means nothin. i just checked the the rating comments on the gw2 site.. the last comments which are talkin bad about the game are from ppl with overall post of 0-3. and the last ones talkin good about tsw were also accounts with overall 0-3 posts.

so that means to me that the tsw fanboys are atm more active than the other ones.

Does it matter? Why can't someone just enjoy a game without trying to prove that all others are inadequate. You know you ARE allowed to like multiple games in the same genre -_-

 

Are there people on this site that probably gave TSW or GW2 a 0-2 out of 10? You betcha. These individuals have some personal issues, imo. They literally can not enjoy the games they like unless they "prove" that all other games suck.

 

Don't be that guy.

 

 The game was so awesome that it almost put the company out of business......They had to fire half their employees and go through a fire sale jsut to stay in business.....Alot of people thought the game sucked.

You've been bashing TSW tirelessly for 10 months already. This kind of dedication deserves credit but maybe it's tim to move on?

Originally posted by xKopogerox

If I considered myself "very happy" with a current multiplayer game I was playing, I would gladly share to the community my reasons why. I wouldn't say things like:

"Cuz I look at the bright side, and hope I get best of it", in other words buy every single MMO that's delivered to you.

"Cuz my wife or friends playing it that I can raid with"

If these reasons are why some of the "very happy" folks enjoying their multiplayer might as well go back and play Super Mario on Nintendo. I can call my friend and me and him can do some PvE and rescue the princess, while socializing together and compete by who will do it 1st with what kind of score.

I do hope I'll hear one replay from the very happy folks here about their multiplayer that actually explains and outweights the positive from the negative. I don't expect a perfect, AAA multiplayer, just good enough to be worth participating in.

In meantime I'll go back to Path of Exile and play it on hardcore.

Positive:

Perma death, fun character development, requires some trading and socializing skills to have successful business and deals. Decent graphics and combat, totally free to play, without any cash shop items that impact the gameplay or economy. Has some ladder and events going ocassionally.

Negative: themepark designed, it can become repetitive grind with very slow character progression, but there is still some progression. Death can be discouraging and harsh.

 

 

Oh my, seems mmorpg.com community has got yet another very angry member. You know, us people have opinions and we don't have to justify having thum.

I paid less than 40 euros for GW2 and I'd say it was money well spent. I'm far from being a GW2 fan or something and I skipped every single story dialogue because they were extremely bad but exploring can be quite fun in this game.
Originally posted by ShakyMo
Originally posted by Piiritus
Actually I'm getting sick of Daoc mentioned in every TESO thread. It it TES game or some half-arsed Daoc reincarnation then with TES skin to bump the sales? Every time I read how Daoc TESO is I get less interested in this MMO.

its nothing like DAOC

the only things it shares with daoc are equality of gear regardless of playstyle and 3 factions with some sort of semi persistent pvp area. (and the semi-persistent nature is GW2 not daoc)

A cursory look at its feature list revals it shares more things with wow, tsw, gw2 and swtor amongst others than it does with daoc.

 

I don't mind that RvRvR area and it can actually be fun. I just want to see enough TES in that game, including more freedom than in some MMOs you mentioned. Well, time will tell.

Btw, I'm sure I'll buy and play TESO. I'm just expressing my scepticism based on contradictory information we have so far. 

Originally posted by ShakyMo
Originally posted by JasonJ
Originally posted by ShakyMo
It doesn't have "a huge pvp focus"

They've probably spent MORE time on pve than pvp.

Daoc was a 50/50 pve/pvp game.

You guys are making out like this game us darkfall or planetside it something.

[mod edit]

Complete BS.

The BASE game is built AROUND PvP.

Closed off faction lands with set races so as not to confuse people who the enemey are while funnelling ALL PvE to the CENTER PvP lands.

THE ENTIRE GAME IS BUILT AROUND THEIR PVP IDEA which is RvRvR.

There is no amount of spin you can put on it to make it NOT a PvP focused game with its current build...hell, even the games trailer is 100% about the 3 faction PvP!

Theres no amount of spin you can put on it to turn it into some frikin everquest clone where you can prance around showing off your latest raid set, while the crafting and pvp peasants run behind you eating your scraps.

DAOC is not a PVP focused game.  Its one of a handful of games that focus on PVE and PVP EQUALLY.

Darkfall, EvE, planetside, warhammer are pvp focused games

EQ, SWG, wow, swtor, rift, tsw, aoc, eq2, coh etc... are PVE focuses games.

Hopefully this game will at least copy one great feature from DAOC, being fair to ALL playstyles.

but i suspect TESO will be less PVP focused than DAOC.  Mainly because they have a bunch of publisher pressure going "be more like wow that sold 10 million", and like all MMOs in beta it is currently getting a lot of squeckiest wheel that gets the oil whine from the hardcore PVE people who infest every MMO beta and turn the games towards the worse. probably end up a 75% PVE / 25% PVP game

Really? I've mostly seen so-called PvPers whining about balance and the colour of the carrot they are running after. And people talking about Daoc in every single TESO thread itself shows how little that game is about TES. Probably just a skin to get enough cash from initial sales. Hope it's not though. 

Actually I'm getting sick of Daoc mentioned in every TESO thread. It it TES game or some half-arsed Daoc reincarnation then with TES skin to bump the sales? Every time I read how Daoc TESO is I get less interested in this MMO.
Originally posted by Aerowyn
if they would just put in a feature that allows you to block any game where you would not see any threads from that games subforum in the recent forum activity SOOOOOO many issues on this website would be alleviated

+1 and there are games subforums I'd block, CU being one of them.

I'm not playing WoW but if you happen to start with CU spam in MMOs I play I'll report you. Just saying.
Originally posted by steelwind

I am curious as well how the CU virus is being allowed to continue. Not to mention all the silly topics peeps made for every little thing that crosses their minds. Topics like the following wouldn't be a stretch of the truth.

"Should CU have blue sky?"

"Will players be able to wear hats?"

"If a tree falls in CU, does it make a sound?"

Obviously these are all made up but to me the majorty of these threads are nothing but spam and useless info and I too am getting sick of sifting through all this crap.

Well, the CU topics part made me laugh and you are right about those 

I hope that EQ Next will surprise me positively. At least there aren't former Daoc devs around...
Originally posted by Theocritus
Originally posted by marz.at.play
Great game, lots of fun. Different from your typical MMO. If you're bored and burned out from the typical MMO experience, TSW is the way to go. Can't go wrong with B2P.

 ummm you.re still spending money.....one of these days you guys will understand that b2p means you are still paying for it.....THis game was crap from the get go.

ummm and you're still spitting poison. get over it and accept the fact that don't like this game. just move on [mod edit]

I like sub based games without cash shops - so yes
There are rules and there are limitations. In EQ, for example, I was KOS to all other races as an Iksar but I still could explore and travel to their lands. I can only hope that ESO world will be bigger than a shoe box divided in 3 but it's still a good example what happens when devs use a well known IP only to promote their sales.
Cannot tell because CU exists only in some guy's head and ESO looks like a random mediocre PvP game and it's similarities to The Elder Scrolls might be fully coincidental.
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