Originally posted by syntax42
Allods was not very impressive, in my opinion.  I think Obsidian chose the wrong team.  I'm willing to give it a look, but if it has a cash shop like the one in Allods, I won't play it.

I agree with you completely Allods online was the #1 rated wow clone when wow clones were just starting , they literally came up with just about nothing at all on their own it was all copied directly from wow for a quick cash grab. Then on top of that they created parts of the game like death charms so when you died you had to have a cash shop item on or you risked a item breaking. Then the expensive runes and costly advantages in pvp. The list goes on and on , and while I'm sure G-Potato had its hand in this expensive cash shop mandatory game , the devs continued to do this crap and it was shady period. I think this is another game I'm not even remotely going to be interested in because the company doing it is amateur and greedy at the very best said about them.

Originally posted by Onecrazyguy

Originally posted by Vannor

Originally posted by Onecrazyguy

Originally posted by DMKano

Originally posted by Vannor

Well, since the game is using PWE accounts I'm pretty sure the security is exactly the same as it is for every other PWE game.

There isn't a common complaint that PWE accounts are being hacked in any other games (PWE or Cryptic) so it makes no sense that it'd start happening in Neverwinter and nowhere else. I'd honestly look closer to home for whatever is causing the problem.. I know people hate to hear that and you'll probably just ignore me and keep blaming the game instead of figuring out whether or not it could be something on your end. I'd hate it if someone said this to me as well.

It happens with every game.. lots of new traffic, lots of people claiming there are security issues. PWE didn't have security issues before this launch and all the games have the same build in the launcher and login systems.

When Rift goes ftp.. you'll see people complaining about it there as well. Yet right now, there's no issues at all.

Rift does have an authenticator for 2 factor auth in their Launcher. I wish all companies used an some form of 2factor authentication, right in the launcher.

Rift is actually a really BAD example. In it's early days they had accounts being hacked to hell and back and they continued to tell customers it was their fault. After weeks of this happening it turned out someone was using packet manipulation to get into their back-end and could control accounts and even unban themselves.

Yes, but it's been fixed now for a long time. Trion's server structure was brand new then, it can make sense. Neverwinter's (PWE's) isn't.

There very well may be a problem with Neverwinter. All I'm saying is don't automatically assume there is no other reason. I mean, Neverwinter sends out activation codes when new IP's access your account... how are people losing accounts with this in place? I tried it myself. Logged in at my parents house and it locked the account until I verified it.

My point about Rift is that like many games, there are security issues on the server side that automagically get blamed on the customer.

Um no it doesn't always send out an activation code. Ever try changing your email? It sends a verification email to the NEW email address and NOTHING to the old which makes no sense at all.

You are making assumptions as well. You are assuming this is using the same PWE back-end that other games use. Yet you don't really know that. For example, try entering a NW code from PC Gamer or one of the magazines on the PWE site. It will take you to a NW specific site, so it's likely NOT using the same system.

It could be on my side, but the number of people experiencing the EXACT same hack seems to indicate it's more than a client side issue.

 

 

 

the sad thing is with this company PWE you will never ever get a straight answer , they are one of the worst bottom feeder companies in the industry up there with Aeria games and Gpotato.

Originally posted by simsalabim77
WoW has the most competitive PVP hands down. I can't think of a single fantasy MMO that has better PVP than WoW. 

make sure next time you put "in your opinion" because you can pretty much bet that majority of this site and others will never agree with you. A gear based system where skill hardly matters is hands down one of the worst pvp systems hands down. I play wow still to this day and FINALLY after expansion and expansion and constant arguing with idiots like greg street we can finally get rid of all the pvp stats on gear and make it a better experience.

Originally posted by Lunarpac

Endgame, hah.

 

Seriously though, I really really wanted to love GW2. Me and my friends had a good time leveling up, but I always felt that something was missing.

 

Maybe it was the collection of gear. In GW2, gear hardly matters at all, and next-to-top gear is easily attainable. To me, that was a little off-putting. Once I felt like my character was finished visually and stat-wise (which happened pretty quickly), I just didn't see any reason to play anymore.

Or maybe it was because of the chaos that was combat. The "threat" mechanic seemed way off. I was told there were no threat mechanics, yet I had aggro 90% of the time in dungeons (played Guardian, GS or scepter/shield). It didn't seem like random aggro. In the end I got tired of dying, because no matter how many defensive cooldowns I slotted in my hotbar, and blew during combat, I would still end up dying way more than anyone else. You can only dodge, bubble, and shield so many times.

 

Those were my 2 major bugbears with the game, which on many levels is a brilliant piece of work, but I just didn't love it as much as I wanted to.

 

i feel the same about it as you , and feel like if they would of added in raiding for the pvers and some sort of actual progression this game would of been a much larger hit and continue to get bigger eventually to wows numbers. But they instead made a casual game where everyone is the exact same when you hit 80 and the only thing to do is run fractal gizillion or world vs world with no meaning at all there either unless you want useless guard and siege passives. Its to bad to , a lot of people love wow and being different in every way to wow is a great thing but a trinity based system and some actual reward for your effort in the form of carrot on a stick if you want to call it that would of made this game much much more popular IMO. Right now people get bored and log off until the next patch , just like Rifts population.

Originally posted by Dauzqul

WoW is old and now terrible.

Diablo 3 was terrible.

StarCraft II was typical

 

 

I seriously don't get it. Blizzard is not the same. New people... new games... new hate.

yet they are the most successful company pretty much out there for video games still to this day. WOW is still going strong with tons of people coming back daily. I should know you see returning players all the time looking for guilds in trade chat. Just because you dont like it doesnt mean there isnt literally millions of people who obviously do not share your view. Just like this website complaints about wow and blizzard you guys are seriously in the minority only.

heres the thing to people complaining that people want gear with no effort , this is mostly untruel and you have no basis to even say so. People can do 1 raid a week and roll on loot drops from bosses. There are currently 8 or 9 raids you can do raid finder with and each take a hour or more to complete and you have to worry about wipes and derp dps or tanks messing up encounters. So if you do not win a thing or just a piece or two in an enitre week , you are locked out from even rolling on anything until the following week and this leads to people feeling like random rolls system is crap and you cant blame them. Also any decent raid guild isnt going to be carrying people under a gear score of 490-500 for regular raiding , so you have kinda no choice until next patch but to run the welfare epics lfr finder if you want to continue your progression. 5.3 changes that with improving the raid system bonus rolls but im pretty sure this is not going to fix the issue. Also what isnt mentioned is the new scanarios that are heroic , you get better bags than normal heroics and scanarios which contain 476 versions of the items which is the first tier of raids in raid finder gear wise.

edit- also worth mentioning is the upgrade system is back and you can upgrade your gear with valor points up to 8 item levels , same with justice points gear as well for entering raid finder.

Originally posted by Cinc
If i want to relax and just pve a little I'll play dragon age or mass effect which offer far better pve than any mmo. Every game doesn't have to cater to every play style. Folks complaining about no pve would be like me complaining about a lack of fighting in tetris. They've stated no pve in this game. If that doesn't appeal to you fine, move along. Clearly this game is not for you. I don't understand the complaining from people this game is obviously not meant for. It's one thing to have a disagreement about classes, mechanics, races, etc. But when your arguing against a clearly stated core design idea it seems rather pointless and just hating.

thats the issue though here , people say they are not going to pledge because they do not have pve yet about 90% of the population of backers have something slick to say to people who do not like the idea and do not want to fund it. Im also one of those people that has money but am not going to pledge money to a game that I know I wont be playing past the first month. I enjoy pve , raiding , and general realm vs realm . So I get one of the 3 and people expect you here to jump for joy , thats just not going to happen. Then you also have the people here that like to guilt trip you into pledging your hard earned money  because this is "your way to stick it to the big time publishers like EA and activision" . Either way you spend your money on a game you wont be playing for a long period of time and you still lose your money pledging it to a project that just doenst interest you and will not benefit you in any long term. Obviously there is a lot more people not interested anyways because its 9 days to go and 60% of its goal complete only. This game wont fund for 2 million , it would have if he would of actually attempted to make a DAOC 2 and not half asses 60% of what made DAOC fun for all not just the pvp hardcore crowd.

Originally posted by Eir_S

Originally posted by cronius77
whats even more funny is the fact that wow is still by far the most played game out there for pay to play games yet you people expect game companies to totally redesign a system that obviously works for most normal gamers

That's it, give them an excuse to keep churning out the same game because it's profitable.  Seriously, there's proof that A.) none of those copies have ever become as large as WoW and B.) a game can still be successful without mimicking WoW.

So essentially, it's laziness.  Good to know.

But apparently people who aren't happy with this aren't "normal". lol

and you can counter that with all the crying about making guild wars 2 so much "different" and look at the tranwreck of a system they have to replace the holy trinity that everyone bitches about on a daily bases. Why reinvent the wheel over and over again for the sake of being out of the cool kids crowd? You can fancy up quests however you want but its still a quest , EQ had them DAOC had them shadowbane even had them in a full loot pvp game. Making a marker isnt whats boring , its the crappy uninteresting lore and worlds hence games like rift flopping. 10 million people seem to enjoy questing in wow, jsut because other games copy wow but lazy like as you yourself says doesnt mean this game will flop like people are arguing about here because it has a quest maker and moves you around the world somewhat. Lore and story telling make memorable gaming, wow did it better than anyone else and still does and thats why they continue to have such success.  All these games that are so different end up flopping far worse than themeparks , EVE is about the only exception and thats tuned to a sci fi crowd and a niche market. Wait until the gameplay NDA is lifted and then be the judge , they are not going to rewrite their entire game because of some crying on mmorpg.com