all I am going to say is Tera====> this way.    oh wait Tera already failed in Korea so there u go.

Originally posted by Lobotomist
Please dont put word GW2 and SWTOR in same sentence. Its bad luck !

pretty soon its going to be GW2 vs SWTOR2.

Originally posted by dontadow

I'd say TOR is exactly the game it should be. Two huge corporation piggybacking a billion dollar IP making a AAA 300 million dollar game in a span of 3 years where most of the budget has gone to voice actors. Then pushed hte game out super early by either cutting previously announced features or postponing them.  All this to beat their Winter Quarterly Report for their stockholders.  

INitial interviews were "This will not be a wow clone" to later interviews that implied that WOW was not so bad and that gamers want "familiarity" .  

yea everybody knows they were playing WoW trying to copy it as much as they can since they got no mmo exp but what they didnt listen was ppl aint gonna pay sub to play single player mmo. 

Originally posted by Shaike

Originally posted by mmoseller888

I just deleted the client, the Dominus client.

 

 

 

why would you do that???

 

Blasphemy !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

now go and play GW1 for at least 4-5 hours to compensate and redownload it on the way.....

 

hehe

Dominus mmo got canceled after the beta weekend, I guess they beta tested it and realize its just easier to play GW2 then making their own daoc2 mmo.

I just deleted the client, the Dominus client.

Originally posted by adam_nox

My point is simple, you are going to pay either way.  So you need to do a fair comparison instead of pretending like GW2 is some sort of revolutionary B2P with no strings attached.

I think when you do a real comparison, you can see how subs are much better.  If you really like a game, fifteen dollars a month is a bargain.  You don't have to put up with a freebie community (what you saw in BWE are people who paid 60 dollars just to play a few days, so in other words, the opposite of what release will be like).  You don't have some people paying more money for extra gold and xp and whatever else they decide to put in there, and believe me, they will put more.

TL:DR: The OP is right, P2W will be the new standard :)

ur agrument is weak b/c lotr aoc eq2 aion went f2p, swg warhammer vanguard darkfall mortal all tanked, sub game doesnt mean its better game period. 

Originally posted by kanezfan

 

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Originally posted by Mephster

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Originally posted by MMOExposed

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Originally posted by Mephster
Well look at it this way, 5+ years later after the original game releases people still came in droves to play Guild Wars. I suspect it will be the same thing for Guild Wars 2 if not better.

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GW1 was a ghost town before the HoM hype info came out regarding GW2

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Could have fooled me been playing it for quite awhile now. People are still all over the place.

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Don't worry about mmoexposed, he hates all things guild war, just comes in to gw2 threads to make troll posts to start arguments. He must be starved for attention.

yeah hes pretty much mmoclueless, should probably change his name too.

Originally posted by adam_nox
The OP is right.  Now the standard model will be Pay to Win.

yes better pay to win than pay to sub and lose dont u think?

very impress with WvW awesome landscapes and 300 ppl fighting eachother with min lag.

+1 free monthly sub to keep their 1.7 bragging right not much diff than WoW's 10 million sub in china when most of them dont even play but owns a time card.

bet its probably new race coming out next xpac lol.

Originally posted by jackwu10

Originally posted by deziwright

 

Character creation = 9/10

 

 

i mean... really? really? go take a nap and wake up fully and tell me this is really worth 9/10...

 

 

yeah if thats true then Aion must be 20/10 obvious OP got no clue what hes talking about.

Originally posted by gladosrev2

61% of the yet unoficcial but most likely real client done :D

u forgot to mention the trojan that comes with it duh