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Originally posted by Temporis_MMO
 

So if what your saying is true, then all of the positive posts that are made over and over again should be locked as well correct?

People have a bad experience with this game, make a forum post about it and the poor customer service they receive, and their posts get locked. Someone posts about all the great features of the game; a topic on here that has been made over and over, and their post does not get locked.

Also I can't tell you how many flame posts get put up on other forums and NEVER get locked, where as this game it seems like anything negatively said quickly gets locked. Don't believe me, go dig around for yourself...

You see, now you are being petulant.

No wonder you can't tell the difference between a critical post and one that is essentially crying, ranting and raging.

"Yes" you can make critical posts and not have them deleted. Just be "critical" (and it helps to be intelligent about it) not attacking, ranting, hating, raging.

Multiple times I've said how I disliked Archeage's aesthetic choices because it feels like "everything but the kitchen sink" design when it comes to a design scheme, mixing colonial, modern, medieval and fantasy elements but in a way where it felt like they were all stuck together as opposed to flowing seamlessly between themselves.

Not once were any of those posts deleted.

Now, that is my opinion and I don't expect people to care or to even share it. But yet, I and others can state their opinions without being a hater or whiner.

 

 

Originally posted by omgthisnamesux

Fact:  If you invest any money in this game to buy a pack.. or points.. or whatever, and you are unable to access the game for technical reasons or reasons on the Trion world side (they are plagued by MANY MANY ACCOUNT AND TECHNICAL ISSUES) - they are refusing to refund any money.

 

To anyone who is considering playing this game - I highly suggest you avoid it completely.  Whereas the core features within the game are interesting and enticing, bad management and readiness have resulted in a catastrophic launch.  Taking into account that the core of this game is Resource/Land Control and PvP - Trion implemented buggy code and bad readiness operations which basically through the entire game out of whack at day 1:

 

Example 1: 

Archeum Pack purchasers were to receive "6 Daru Chests" as part of their purchase.  These chests basically contained consumable items (potions etc..) that would help someone just starting out.  They also could contain a Gilda, which is a rare currency used to purchase Houses and other items core to the games purpose.

On day 1, due to horrible back-end systems, a number of Archeum Pack owners did not recieve any Daru chests at all.  This in itself is not a big deal, getting potions or Gilda late... doesn't impact anything.  However, on the flip side of this, a great number of Archeum Members recieved multiples upon multiples of duped Daru Chests.  Essentially starting the game.. at level 1... day 1.. with 50-100 Gilda, and instantly being able to purchase some of the largest House/Farm areas on the map.

 

I don't really believe that's "fraud"

wrongful or criminal deception intended to result in financial or personal gain.

Originally posted by Dreamo84
Funny how all the non pvp plots are first to go yet they didn't want to make non pvp servers...

If everyone was really so hardcore pvp in archeage it stands to reason the non pvp plots would be taken last. Sad for a non pvp guy like me but oh well. Life goes on.

I don't really think your logic is sound.

there are a lot of people who want to play archeage and "don't" want to pvp. So they took the "non-pvp" plots first.

Not everyone who plays archeage wants pvp.

Originally posted by breadm1x

Personaly i think the so called "DDOS" attack is just some excuse..

Noone ever had any problems with it untill the open beta stress test.

 

 

Well, if you wanted to really "hurt" a game, would it be better to attack during a trial beta so that they can take steps to mitigate those attacks (or at least warn people, get the authorities involved, etc)  or during the time when everyone who had spent their hard earned money and "expected" a smooth head start experience?

 

Originally posted by Herzy
Originally posted by Sovrath

I'll admit the never ending intro cinematic that you can't escape from is an unfortunate oversight.

kept have to ctrl + alt + delete to bring up the task manager and then, since Archeage for some reason doesn't like to be displaced by another program, had to alt tab to actually see the task manager in order to end it.

Still, I have quite a few hours put into the game. only 25% into level 20 (wanted to be a bit farther) but I'll rectify that today.

I'm stuck in the flipping intro too. ALT+F4 does it for me, to close the damn client.

Why thank you!

Since the game "just" went down now, that came in quite handy! 

I'll admit the never ending intro cinematic that you can't escape from is an unfortunate oversight.

kept have to ctrl + alt + delete to bring up the task manager and then, since Archeage for some reason doesn't like to be displaced by another program, had to alt tab to actually see the task manager in order to end it.

Still, I have quite a few hours put into the game. only 25% into level 20 (wanted to be a bit farther) but I'll rectify that today.

Originally posted by svandy

It's an important distinction to make, although I thought it was pretty obvious from the start... maybe I just read more closely than others. 

yes, it was obvious from the start precisely because they stated exactly what the situation was.

Just some people are just ... well ...

 

announced today that the company sold more than $500 million of Destiny into retail stores and first parties worldwide as of day one, making the game the biggest new video game franchise launch in history.  

Based on extraordinary audience demand, retail and first party orders worldwide have exceeded $500 million for Destiny,



The OP's post shouldn't even be necessary.

Originally posted by zzax
Originally posted by Kyleran

Er, I paid $150.00, am not likely to even play the game until around December, and a I'm not complaining, who exactly is?

In any other game $150 = 10 months of sub, here you get three. Looks like you made a good deal.

And the in game credits and being able to play the game quite some time before it was released, in game items that have an in game cash shop value.

 

Originally posted by SupaAPE

In this day and age of video games, MMORPG, FPS, MOBA etc etc..

 

when most games are using the free to play model...

 

when a company comes and asks for $150, to alpha test a game, from another market, in which it failed in the original market...

 

I have to ask....what the flip did you expect?

 

The second I seen $150 for alpha access....I knew that was a cash grab, for  a defunct product, that would not last any longer than the alpha period of the game itself.

 

This is not an "i told you so", but more of a curiosity on how this wasn't obvious?

I'm not sure what the issue is.

for your money you got to try the game out before it was released, you get several months of subscription status, in game cash shop credits and some nifty items.

The issues with the head start are a shame. Really. But, given that the open beta seemed to be reasonably decent, their claim that they are experiencing DDOS attacks might be very real.

And, given the "crying" that some gamers seem to revel in I don't doubt that some people would resort to this.

I just spent $129 for theater tickets for last night. The dinner would have been an extra $100 had my date not insisted on paying it.

And that was "one night" of entertainment.

I'm not really bothered by the $150 entry fee given what else it grants me.

 

Originally posted by goboygo


LOL great post actually love to see the defenders try to defend the undefendable.  As you said at the end, the game itself isn't bad its a great attempt at copying what's already been done a thousand times before and I can respect it for that.

I think most people miss the point of your post and think your just "attacking" their new love.

I think people just have issue with his initial statement of "Korea being insipid".

 

Originally posted by red_cruiser
Originally posted by Sovrath
Originally posted by red_cruiser
Originally posted by Jockan
ArcheAge to me a classic style mmo that reminds me of when mmos use to be good. I feel like I am back in my early days of Lineage 2. I think more games needs to take a step back and start again with what we loved about mmos. I am at work right now and cant wait to get home so I can play some more. ArcheAge is not perfect but its the step in the right direction that this genre needs. Thank you XL Games and Trion!

This is an interesting post.  I find it interesting that you would use "when MMOs used to be good" and "early days of Lineage 2" together.  Most people think that old MMOs were better (for various reasons), but most wouldn't use Lineage 2 as an example.  I think it highlights a certain aspect of the genre that after you play for the first time, you spend the rest of your time trying to recapture the same magic.

 

No it doesn't.

The early days of Lineage 2 were amazing. They added changes that completely evolved the game into something different. 

So as a Lineage 2 player he (and also I) not only liked Lineage 2 but also look for many of Lineage 2's better game play elements in other games. Archeage just happens to have a bit of that.

Unfortunately for many you have to slog through until later in the leveling experience but it's there.

 So recapturing those "times" is fairly easy. No trying necessary. All the game companies need to do is recognize a demographic of mmo players that enjoyed more of one thing and less of another.

Good post.  Thanks for sharing.  I didn't have the time to play a grinder like Lineage 2 when it was released.  It may or may not have been an actual "Korean grinder", but that's what people were calling it at the time; so I never was able to play it much.  I tried to get into it at a later date, but was unsuccessful.

Oh, it's a real Korean grinder. And an "actual" korean grinder. Not like Aion, which other cried was a "korean grinder" not knowing what that actually meant.

but the idea of L2 was about player interaction. not quests and the "grind" was just to get you out in the world and expose you to the players.

Also to meter out, over a long period of time, the leveling process.

Now there are quests and the starting areas are sort of updated and abandoned.

Originally posted by red_cruiser
Originally posted by Jockan
ArcheAge to me a classic style mmo that reminds me of when mmos use to be good. I feel like I am back in my early days of Lineage 2. I think more games needs to take a step back and start again with what we loved about mmos. I am at work right now and cant wait to get home so I can play some more. ArcheAge is not perfect but its the step in the right direction that this genre needs. Thank you XL Games and Trion!

This is an interesting post.  I find it interesting that you would use "when MMOs used to be good" and "early days of Lineage 2" together.  Most people think that old MMOs were better (for various reasons), but most wouldn't use Lineage 2 as an example.  I think it highlights a certain aspect of the genre that after you play for the first time, you spend the rest of your time trying to recapture the same magic.

 

No it doesn't.

The early days of Lineage 2 were amazing. They added changes that completely evolved the game into something different. 

So as a Lineage 2 player he (and also I) not only liked Lineage 2 but also look for many of Lineage 2's better game play elements in other games. Archeage just happens to have a bit of that.

Unfortunately for many you have to slog through until later in the leveling experience but it's there.

 So recapturing those "times" is fairly easy. No trying necessary. All the game companies need to do is recognize a demographic of mmo players that enjoyed more of one thing and less of another.

Originally posted by Jockan
ArcheAge to me a classic style mmo that reminds me of when mmos use to be good. I feel like I am back in my early days of Lineage 2. I think more games needs to take a step back and start again with what we loved about mmos. I am at work right now and cant wait to get home so I can play some more. ArcheAge is not perfect but its the step in the right direction that this genre needs. Thank you XL Games and Trion!

Same here.

I very much dislike some of the aesthetic choices they made but I haven't felt this way since Lineage 2.

Which was a good thing.

Originally posted by Semiel

>but for a modern MMO in 2014 it fails to shine..... especially as a Sandbox.

Please read my post a little higher and point me to a better one, I will gladly play that instead then...

Never mind you are quoting noble nerd. It looked like that was your statement.

I completely agree with you and would ask him "what currently released sandbox game is he referring to".

 

Originally posted by observer

Well, since nobody wanted to make a list of AA's sandbox "features", i'll just list these videos of what sandbox should mean.

Now, i know some of you will say these aren't MMOs, with the exception of Landmark, however, what do they all have in common?  They have tools and creative modes, and they aren't just for building.  You can create scripts, avatars, textures, buildings, and in some cases, your own A.I.  You can pretty much build your own MMO in SL if you have the skills, although i wouldn't recommend it, since the tech is really crappy for an MMO.  Landmark will soon have storybricks, and tools to create your own quests and scripts (from what i've read anyway).
 
The point is, developers need to provide the creative tools (shovels & buckets), for their virtual environments (cities & zones, etc.).  Otherwise, you get developer created content which remains static until they change it.  In other words, a themepark.
 
Could housing and farming in AA be considered sandbox tools, by changing the environment?  One could argue yes, but then all the other MMOs that have harvesting and housing could be considered sandboxes too, and i don't think anyone here would seriously say WoW is a sandbox since it also has farming, and soon it will have garrisons.
 
Dead horse has now been beaten.

except I think there is a difference between a sandbox game and a sandbox mmo.

UO seems to have been considered the first sandbox mmo or one of the first. Someone can argue that point if they wish.

Could you create your own scripts, your own designs for buildings, weapons, etc, your own textures, your own AI or avatars in UO?

Can you do that in EVE which is another game that is considered a sandbox (though others argue against that)?

if not then I don't know of any game other than 2nd life which can be considered a sandbox by your definition.

So it seems that one has to accept the idea of a "sandbox" mmo which might encompass the idea of free play, "living in a world" and essentially not having the developers tell you what to do.

That's not to say that mmo's can't have the things you are listing but since the sandbox vs themepark debate has been discussed for quite a long time (with people expressing preference for a sandbox) then it must mean that sandbox mmo's have existed prior to landmark or minecraft or any on your list.

 

 

Originally posted by SlyLoK
I was hoping to see " Removed all quests except for the Main Story and Crafting quests ".

what an odd thing to say.

1, you dont' have to do them at all and therefore you can choose to just do the "main story and crafting quests"

2, there are people who would counter and say remove all quests "especially main story line.

 

Originally posted by Albatroes
There's honestly no point in playing this game when you can play Tera. Just my opinion.

I kind of agree with you.

Ther were a few fun things in RaiderZ but I felt Tera was a better game.

Originally posted by seafirex

They say they want huge open world , they want to group up and do quest with other players or events. ( Wait ... i was under the impression they where refusing to quest or do events because it was boring and took to much time, no diversity in them, etc.? ). 

Yep that is right, the players are the issue here not the games.

They refuse to quest, do events, work to level up, group up. On pvp servers they refuse to pvp, they must have safe zones in every map. They must solo everything and if they do dungeons they must be able to aoe clear them or have it just a bit hard but not too hard. The xp they get rewarded from mobs or quest must be huge. The only thing they want is end game, and even then they must be able to get all the gear etc in no time at all.

So i ask again why the need for anything massive if all they want is a multiplayer game?

 

You would have to show a direct link from players demanding quests, open world, pvp, etc and "the same" players who then say they won't do these things.

What's been happening (and definitely on these forums) is that "some" players will say they want grind or quests or grouping and/or open world and then completely different players will say they don't want these things and then a separate individual will claim that they are all the same group of people.

They are different groups of people.

The issue is whether or not there are enough of the "asking group" to justify that type of game for developers.

Originally posted by VveV
 

If it was in official lore then so be it,  but that is not the case. Even if it were it is still extremly restrictive :). My main issue is that not allowing such things and not having the offical lore for it is just sketchy and lazy design. It shows that they don't care about players truly being immersed in their world.

Well, do you know for certain it's not the case?

And it's "not" lazy design. Actually the opposite would be lazy design. Just having everyone be anything is the actual lazy way out.

Putting thought into each race and class so that each race has strengths and weaknesses shows forethought as to how these races work with and against each other during the game.

As far as players being immersed in the world, I'll refer back to my "role players who think that role play is doing whatever they want" over "role players who figure out where the "spine" of the lore is and then grow from that.

Anyone can say "oh, i'm an elf but also a warrior but also psychic and I used to be the queen of the humans because I was a shapeshifter but also one of the greatest artists ...." yadda yadda yadda.

That's just everything but the kitchen sink "design".

but giving a player various "points" (or as I indicated above "spine") where they have very distinct places for the start of their character makes the player actually think of their character, how it relates to the world. 

As I said, anyone can just glob on various attributes to their character's "life" but forcing players to actually think of their characters in relation to specific world points will yield more interesting results.

Originally posted by VveV
Originally posted by Sovrath
Originally posted by VveV
What you people keep leaving out >.>, is that the game is race locked as well >.>. BDO locks 3 core aspects that make a MMORPG which are race, gender and class >.>. That makes no freaking sense considering that  it is suppose to be a MMORPG, but it makes your character for you -_-. I and many others are not interested in just being a number in a sea of clones >.>, which will undoubtedly happen in BDO. BDO's design is very lazy, as someone stated earlier. BDO should be taking tips form BLESS tbh >........> now that is a true MMORPG. 

Of course it makes sense.

Heck, Lineage 2 has race locked classes. I believe Dark Age of Camelot does as well.

The idea is that one particular race/culture has developed its own fighting style/weapons/etc.

Gender lock also makes sense as long as it's tied to lore. Of course, as some have said "amazons".

Sounds to me that you are part of the "its' an rpg therefore that means doing whatever I want" group. As opposed to "its' an rpg and my 'character' will find its way based upon the rule set of the game/world" group.

 

Just because a game is a role playing game (whether it's massive or otherwise) doesn't mean it can't make hard and fast choices regarding its world and lore. My guess is that making such choices makes the world richer. 

Now, that is a different thing from people not wanting to play a certain gender. Though I don't particularly care because I dont' see myself as the character I am playing, other people very much tie their identity with their character and it's not part of who they are to play something that doesn't tie into that identity.

 

 

Yea i agree with you to a extent.

when it comes to your point about race lock, yea race lock is completely fine. However, when you lock a race to one class then that is being a bit to restrictive esp in a MMORPG. BDO does this not once but twice with the Ranger class and Giant. While i agree about your point of certain restrictions being in lore, that perfectly fine. In BDO however they most def could have had elfs become sorcs, Wizards, Wariors, Tamer etc but they cant. out of all their lore i don't see on reason for not allowing such a thing. 

While a games aspects can make it richer, i don't see making a person character for them is very RPGish tbh. At that point the game is just Vindictus 2.0 with a few better features.

Well, let's work it through ...

Maybe in this particular lore elves can't work magic as they are anti magic. Sort of like dwarves are sometimes depicted in certain fantasy worlds.

Or maybe they are closely tied to magic so that they have long life and certain abilities but because of this there is no way they can "work" magic. like being "too close to the subject" so to speak.

As far as warriors (and I'm taking this from you example, I don't really know what is broken down into "what") maybe elves aren't good with close quarter combat. Maybe it doesn't make sense as they are light and thin compared to the heavier races. So instead they developed ranged combat which makes more sense for them.

Now one could say "well, they could develop a quick, nimble close quarter combat, but maybe with all the warriors clad in plate mail that doesn't make sense. Or maybe the developers had the idea that each race was closely tied into a fighting style (like Lineage 2) and they excel at that. They "could" do something else (story wise not game wise) but why pick something they aren't good in when they can pick what they are made for?

And that's my point, if a reasonable explanation can be worked into the story/world/lore then it can make sense.

 

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