All Posts by Sovrath

To be honest, I like the interface. I don't like "everything" about it but I do like it. It's simple and out of the way.

I like the movement and it makes sense. If people have played diablow or neverwinter nights there should be no problems with movement.

I voted that the Graphics are better than other games but that really isn't true.

It's the ARt design that is better than other games. Games like LOTRO and EQ2 have far better graphics. But NOT art design.

Originally posted by Mylon

 

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What you think really doesn't matter. He violated the rules and now he's paying for it.

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This has to be one of the dumbest statements I have ever heard. Rules are not made simply to be rules, but because in some way they are meant to be for the benefit of all. That is, someone thought, (think, in the past tense), that such a rule would bring about the best possible outcome for everyone involved. People are constantly thinking of new rules and changes to existing rules or thinking of new interpretations of existing rules all to achieve that "best for all" approach.

And generally I consider the rights of the consumer more important than letting Blizzard punish one man for demonstrating excellent software-assisted automation expertise. This kind of man could very well be writing a robot that picks tomatoes for us so we never have to worry about salmonella poisoning.

Well then, he is sqanerding his talent and should know better that he should have been working on the robot. Live and Learn.

If I had a business and someone was doing something that I thought was detrimental to the business I would sue him until I couldn't sue "no more".

Well, first I'd ask him to stop. Then I'd sue if he didn't. That seems more fair.

Originally posted by Waterlily

Originally posted by Edroe

well actually it is an MMO. It looks like its just not an MMORPG. They did say it was set in a persistant world so its not exaclty CounterStrike

 

Ok, a game keeping track does not make it an MMO.

BG / Diablo / NN all keep track of your ranking and stats and gear, they are not MMO however.

 

It's all instanced as far as I can tell, you just co-op with another person, and the game keeps track of your gear.

There is nothing Massive Multiplayer in this game, nothing. And as far as I could tell, it's not a role playing game either. You're just a spy in an instance.

I think people need to realize that as time goes by the definition of what an MMO is will change.

It's only natural that it will evolve into something that is different from the very first games.

Of course one could come up with a different name for every change that an online game incorporates into its design but it probably is easier to think of any online game that allows access by multitudes of people as an MMO or at least a flavor of MMO.

In the end it will all come under the moniker of MMO.

Originally posted by Netzoko

First off, don't give me that BS about how instancing is a must for servers. 1997 UO had a massive, seamless world supporting just as many players as current MMOs. Yeah, nineteen ninety fucking seven.

Now, developers have realized a short-cut that we're all too stupid to fight against....instancing. This short-cut has ruined what would have been great MMOs.

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Age of Conan: Hyped to hell then dumbed down for the Xbox 360. The worst, however, is that fact that every zone has multiple copies, on multiple servers. Way to break up a massively multiplayer game, right? Why have servers then? If every zone is broken up, why have separate servers? It makes no sense. Epic siege battles? Laff. Instancing ruined this game.

Pirates of the Burning Sea: This game could have been amazing. Imagine sailing the seas and docking at ports for trade, or conquering if wanted. Explore the many islands of the Caribbean? Sorry. The reality is that you enjoy one big loading screen of small environments. Everything is instanced. Missions, sea battles, ports.... All separated by loading screens. You cant walk around islands, your boat... anything.

 

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It's sad when games plummet and the devs sit and pick their noses wondering what went wrong.

Did you ever think that the graphics of UO didn't put as much of a stress on the '97 technology as compared to games today? Granted those computers were less powerful but are the computers today exponentially more powerful compared to what is needed to render everything?

Originally posted by ProfRed

Question:  If I were to return to my gladi and then level to 75 to open the subclass system and play a Hawkeye what will be the penalties for Hawkeye fun?

I'm wondering if I should take my gladi up and use subclasses, or roll an alt to level Hawkeye.

With the new Gracia leveling speed I feel like all i'll lose from rolling an alt will be the level 1-40 experience, and having the subclass buffs for Gladiator.

Any tips?  I'd really just like to play with Gladiator and Hawkeye for fun/raiding/guild fights/sieges/pvp.

The subclass system starts you off at a lvl 40 version of the class you pick. You have the exact same toon but you now have all the stats of a lvl 40 "whatever". You have to get new gear (if the class is different from the main such a a main that is a mage and a sub that is a warrior) and you have to get the appropriate tattoos to alter your sub's stats.

The only connection to Main and Sub is that they will (or already have?) included various bonuses for  the main class depending on your sub and its level. So if you have a main as mage and a warrior as sub, you might get more hitpoints once you reach a certain lvl but if your main is mage and your sub is a mage you might get some sort of magical bonus, etc. I can't remember what they were.

Also, your sub will cap out at lvl 80 while your main can go to lvl 85.

Originally posted by Slasher29

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Originally posted by Rocksha

Sovrath, or anyone else, i know i asked this already, and you said yes, but i need a 100% confirm that the 4th  anniversary edition includes the full game serial key, and is everything i need to start. I  need to know this for sure because this happened to me last time i tried to play, i bought the Lineage 2 2nd anniversary edition and thought it was the full game, but it turned out to be only the 60 day time card with a free trial, not the full game, so it would be helpful if someone could confirm that the 4th anniversary includes EVERYTHING i need. Thanks

I can't actually answer that as I haven't purchased it.

It's my "guess" that it would be a regular game key. I do know that there were boxes with l2 time cards at one time so perhaps that is what you purchased before?

Well, it goes out of its way to say "60 days of play included" so it seems that that is "included' besides anything else.

http://www.lineage2.com/four_year_anniv.html

But that's an educated guess

Features

• Includes Lineage II and all expansions: Harbingers of War, Age of Splendor, Rise of Darkness, Scions of Destiny, Oath of Blood, Interlude, The Kamael and Hellbound
• Exclusive in-game bonuses include a Black Half Mask and a Pig Lollypop with transformation skills
• Claim lordship over the lands, earn special skills and bonuses and dominate dungeons
• Enter the realm of Hellbound, where the brutal and powerful Beleth is hard to find and even harder to conquer
• Level cap has been raised to 85 for even more challenging gameplay
• Tame, raise and level a rideable wolf, buffalo, cougar or kookaburra as your companion
• 60 days of game time included; additional online fees required

Originally posted by Slasher29

i am thinking about coming back is it worth it ?

With all due respect, aren't there enough threads that ask the same thing just under this, where we all state whether or not that particular poster should or should not come back?

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/189688

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/189235/page/1

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/189811

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/189750

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/189617

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/189530

etc

Originally posted by thamighty213

on the main page it was featured story yesterday.

 

 

LOL! Holy Crap!

Thanks! It's like I've just been told that the world really is flat!

Originally posted by thamighty213

Originally posted by Sovrath

Originally posted by mattic65

I've been thinking about coming back as well, especially after reading the features in the upcoming Gracia update. I really liked this game and everything it had to offer, but the insane grind and time investment involved was what made me finally quit playing. But with the tweaks to XP and buffs making it easier for those of us who have jobs (and lives) to level and be competitive, it definitely deserves a second try. I'll be giving this game another go once Gracia goes live.

 

To be honest, I wonder how much "less" the grind it really will be. That's the one thing that people don't realize about L2. It's all about "small changes".

So sure, it could be less of a grind but it could still be an incredible grind compared to other games. I have the feeling that all these players are going to come back expecting a much easier game when the reality is that it will be a "slightly" easier game.

 

From the actual interview

 

The big change is that leveling a Lineage II character is now extremely easier—and we say “extremely” in a fairly conservative manner. A normal new character that goes through the beginning quests can gain a few levels in just a few minutes, and players should find leveling now quite easily, all the way up to level 60 and beyond. Players that could spend several months of hardcore grinding to get up to a competitively high level will now be able to accomplish the same feat perhaps a month, if not less. They’ll also be able to get to their occupation changes a lot faster, so developing a selection of specialized characters is a much more realistic option. Building characters is now a lot fun and easy to do, rather than a long-term activity many players would rather do without. This drastic change in leveling is due to several factors.

Well that's interesting. Which interview is this please?

Originally posted by mattic65

I've been thinking about coming back as well, especially after reading the features in the upcoming Gracia update. I really liked this game and everything it had to offer, but the insane grind and time investment involved was what made me finally quit playing. But with the tweaks to XP and buffs making it easier for those of us who have jobs (and lives) to level and be competitive, it definitely deserves a second try. I'll be giving this game another go once Gracia goes live.

To be honest, I wonder how much "less" the grind it really will be. That's the one thing that people don't realize about L2. It's all about "small changes".

So sure, it could be less of a grind but it could still be an incredible grind compared to other games. I have the feeling that all these players are going to come back expecting a much easier game when the reality is that it will be a "slightly" easier game.

Originally posted by Rocksha

Yes i got the the pay with the credit card part, and after that, i put through my information where a screen should come up usually saying purchase complete or what not, but it says the image has timed out. Anyways, i will most likely still buy it, it just gets frustrating. I am going to go out to the store and see if i can find it there when i get the chance. If i buy the 4th anniversary edition from best buy, you can look it up at www.bestbuy.com if your not sure what im talking about, is this the actual "full game" or not. Thanks

Well, can't test that as I would just end up purchasing the game.

Now, as far as the game goes, it really doesn't matter what you buy. If you went into some gamestop and purchased the very first gamebox, you would still get the whole game. You will just have to wait for all the downloading.

But you will get all of it, that I promise.

Originally posted by Rocksha

, im waiting on an email from them, but i have been waiting all day, this is getting dissappointing, to the point where i might not buy it.

Ok, first of all, what type of thinking is that? Seriously. You are not 5. Granted, I agree with you, you should be able to purchase the game easily from their company. But "not" purchasing it because there are some difficulties seems a bit punative. You either want to try it or not. And what if the issues you are experiencing are on your side? You are then punishing yourself for something that is not their fault.

Ok so I tried the playNC site and got to the "pay with credit card" part. So if you are not getting to this part then the issue might be on your side.

You can also do what I would do since I'm not really a child of the internet era. You could go to a store to buy it or purchase the box from Amazon.

Sorry, I suppose I owe you an apology but it's very hard for me to accept the fact that a small amount of difficulty creates such a drastic response. It seems a bit too focused on the instant gratification philosophy of life.

In MY day you sometimes had to wait weeks to get something you ordered (from a catalog no less). Stores weren't really open on Sunday and when I was younger, you had to take money out for the entire weekend or else go without.

Did I mention that I had to go to school, through the snow, uphill both ways? ; )

Originally posted by Rocksha

well, i guess Luna is out for me. I want an american server with the highest population, so im guessing Bartz is it?

Yes, Bartz.

Originally posted by alyndale

Originally posted by Sovrath

 

Originally posted by Vasquez21

Ok, so after long time I was back in Lineage II.

I said to me that I will try it, I remembered it like a realy fun game which I used to play with many of my friends it was great time.
But I also have in mind that it was long ago, and from that time I haved played many other MMO. Ok so I install the game, and... it was disaster.

First thing.
Creating character, they add one new race that's good, but where is problem with add some more customization to creating proces. You can change just few things in each profile... you can choose profession, and then face you got 3(!!!) of them... and hair + color. Nothing change from when I was playing about 5 years ago, I can't see any problem with adding some, but well it's detail.

Second thing.

Missions. First mission was to find few people, I couldn't find option to see them on map, or probably there is no option like that, so I have to go trough all buildings to find the right persons. But it's detail again.

Second Mission. Kill 50 wolves

Third Mission. Kill 50 of something.

Fourth Mission. Find 30 items = Kill 50 wolves...

Fifth Mission. Kill 50 of something.

Third Thing

Bots... oh my god... I don't know how it is posible to pay for a game to people which are don't care about clients...

I have seen about 20 bots in starting town. This's sick.

Ok, well, first things first.

 

This is a 4 year old game which started developement 3 years prior. It is made in the style of your typical Asian grinder with the redeeming characteristic that it is less "junky" feeling than many of those games.

Secondly, this is not a mission based, quest based game. There are quests but quite frankly they are very utilitarian. I rarely if ever do any quests as there is absolutely no point other than 1st class change, 2nd class change, etc.

As far as bots, please know that L2 has very few instances. Because of this you are just going to see them. In some places there are very few (light elf village on Hindemith doesn't have many at all including dark elf village. Dwarf town tends to have quite a bit. I challenge you to point to a AAA title that doesn't have bots or RMT. WoW, where I've rarely if ever seen bots has many servers where one can indugle in RMT. So they are always out there. No getting around that.

Thirdly, no on hangs around new player towns. Just doesn't happen. This game is about clan and alliance and power. So, level up as quickly as you can, get out of the new player area, go to Dion, meet people and join a clan or clan academy.

This is a pvp game. It does have a strong grindy PvE mechanic but as I said, this is based on it being an Asian grinder. it is what it is.

As far as customization, again... asian grinder. How they have dealt with customization is to add items in the game to add to your character. A variety of masks, Horns, many different types of head wear, circlets, etc.

If you want to judge this game based on Asian Grinder pvp games it quite frankly is the best for many reasons. If you want to judge it based on games like Lord of the Rings, Everquest II, etc... games that are more about quests and customization then it is not going to really stand up.

you have to evaluate it for what it is and the genre it resides in.

As far as who plays it? Many people play it. Especially Euro players. There are so many Euro players that they are adding a new Euro server in April.

As far as the North American playerbase, they are streteched over many servers, with Bartz being the most crowded.

So there you are.

edit: oh, and also know that the people who do play this game a very die hard and loyal. They have dealth with the issues that the game has and managed to make the game flourish in its own way. I can't say that it doesn't have problems. But I've yet to go to any game forum where there aren't peopel who don't complain about something.

 

Well stated Sovrath.  By the way, I noticed the date on this particular post.  If you are online today and revisit this thread, have you joined the merged server with Hindermith and Gustin, by chance?

If so, possibly we might chat.  With luck, I should make an appearance on the newly merged server, Phoenix this evening!

 

If so, hope to chat with you there!

Hey there. Yes, I'm on Phoenix which is the Gustin/Hindemith merged server. Sadly I won't be on today as I will be out with friends tonight. Thanks for saying hi though.

Originally posted by tumper92

well. when i tryed to start up the game it said that i couldent launch ( some file, dont know wich ) i was makeing a file check then, and still says the same, now i just trying to reinstall the game. but have this happend to any of you guys out there ? :)

Well, my guess is that it is a gameguard error. Of course it would help if you knew the file.

If you were to uninstall gameguard (drag it to trash) and then run the file check, that could have helped.

Now, the other thing is that if you have frequented private servers it's possible that there is something left over that is causing issues.

Originally posted by Vrika

I think the laws are ridiculous when a player is allowed to play a game he owns, but not allowed to use a software wich copies the game to RAM to run the game. Soon we'll be seeing games with EULAs wich make running them with emulator illegal. Consumers should have more rights about how to run their own games.

Blizzard is doing really good job against botters and I appreciate what they are doing, but the lawmakers should make better laws. Something that would make including any functionality to hide the program to a program wich can be used to bot illegal would be a good law. So that Blizzard, and other companies, could identify those botting programs and ban the users without problems should they wish to do so.

Game companies don't make online games so that the players can do whatever they want with the software. That is not part of the business plan. They don't sit their thinking that they are selling you software. They are selling you a portal to "their" game.

It would not be good business practice for most companies to create an online game, with all the costs and headaches involved only to lose business because players use the software to essentially undermine the original intent.

Good for Blizzard and any company that protects it's work.

Originally posted by Home15

Since when im a WAR fanboi, just cause I sundenly find the game more interesting doesnt mean im labeled a WAR fanboi in any way, in a matter of fact i think of myself a "aion fanboi" since im following this game since 2006.

Also I pointed in a AION thread that and i quote "the less hype this game has the better" I dont want to see any of those AoC hate trolls or WoW kids in any way or day.

But that doesnt mean the communication with the devs and the european Aion community has to be bar to none.

This game is supose to be styled to a more western taste, why are the devs lisening only to korean players that arent even in europe at all and are used to playing "the asian grinding game"

Yes they are in beta and solve the bugs, and I know we will have our open beta, but im sure this will only involve latency server issue and translation, not our actualy ideas and concerns.

Also im well aware this game has no asian grind and is more quest orientated, yes I know abouth relics, keep sieges, etc.. I have been reading, watchin evry movie i came across.

Whats so apealing in WAR is that the devs actualy spend time with there initial playerbase, Aion however is focusing there player base to the Aion asian community.

I do not content myself with a FAQ and trailers, and a patch of screenshots, i want to actualy watch them involve more with us, but I guese this is to much asked, abouth the european marketing is not ongoing im well aware but that wil be more website orientated and trailers, but I could be wrong ;)

First off, Koreans do things differently. They are a different culture. It might not feel right to us but I'm sure there are things that we would do that wouldn't feel right for them.

Secondly, if I remember correctly, this was a game that was being made for the Korean/eastern market but WITH the sensibilities of a more Western game.

Originally posted by kikinchaz

Which DPS class is better would you say?  The DE or Elf?

My guess is Dark Elf with damage but the Light Elf having more criticals (as that's how it seems to break down with the archers).

I'm afraid that might be something you will have to ask on the main boards or perhaps someone here has experience with daggers.