If they make the lightsaber obtainable later on in the class progression it may deter some folks from choosing the class.  Also make it hard to achieve with a long quest chain that requires some great accomplishment's.

Originally posted by jadonc

Post your reasons as to why this will not be like your favorite SWG Pre-CU.

-no dual classes

-no creature handler

-Jedi will not be rare

-no player owned cities

-player housing?

-player owned shops

-player owned vendors

-player bases

-space combat?

But it will have a storyline. lol.

Originally posted by frying_pan

Why do so many (casual) players whinge about raid content they claim they'll never see? Lets take a look at WoW's raids with active lockouts:

Molten Core/Onyxia : Still in the game

Zul'gurub: Still in the game.

Blackwing Lair: Still in the game

AQ20: Still in the game

AQ40: Still in the game

40 Man Naxxramas: No longer in the game in this format.

Karazhan: Still in the game

Gruuls's Lair: Still in the game

Magtheridon's Lair: Still in the game

SSC/TK: Still in the game. No longer need attunements.

Mount Hyjal/Black Temple: Still in the game. No longer need attunements.

Zul'Aman: Still in the game. The Amani war bear had been removed from the loot table of the 4th chest.

Sunwell Plateau: Still in the game

World bosses: Azuregos, Lord Kazzak was moved to outlands as Doom Lord Kazzak, Ysondre/Lethon/Emeriss/Taerer and Doomwalker are still in the game. Only Kazzak was removed from the Blasted Lands and re-tuned for lvl 70's and placed in outlands.

 

So why are people complaining about content that "they will never see". You never saw Black Temple at lvl 70? Fine, go get a group and go back and clear it. Theres nothing stopping you.

The only content that has been removed from the game is lvl 60 Naxx which was re-done as  10/25 man Naxxramas

It's nice to do the content at the appropriate lvl caps.  This is why we lack skillful players in the game today. 

Not the most efficient way to do the said daily's but put's all the information for those that are thottbot or wowhead challenged in a convenient writeup.

Originally posted by PatchDay

new hacks popup all the time I'm looking at a bunch for WoW on youtube vids. there is no perfect method for detecting if packets being routed from client to server is being modified.

Not to sound like an instigator but I m very tehnical and  have some discrepancies to correct you on.  First there are several methods of detecting packet tampering.  You can buy hardware devices now that do his for you or you can setup a system with software (IDS).  If you change the information in the packet the size of the packet changes from the standard. Packets are broken down to a standard size and if that size changes there is packet tampering. I can build systems to sniff for these and drop them with no response to the originator.  Anywho, believe me the people with the skillset are not wasting their time hacking and selling WoW gold or accounts.  The  return is puny compared to what they would most likely be doing for a living.  There wouldn't even be  "a rush of the hack" feeling.

Also no way to verify memory corruption. If software engineers could easily validate memory modification, then you would not have buffer overruns

Server side you should at least check for the velocity the player is moving at. I dont know why MMOs don't do this. Simply test the magnitude of the velocity. If it exceeds the threshold you got a speed hacker

If they are moving at the threshold or less then they are at least within acceptable range

 

MagnitudeSquared is a quick test and cheap CPU cost. Will bypass the performance loss for a square root calculation

Sounds like a lot of gibberish, I can however tell you in speedhacking packets flow at an accelerated rate.  This sets off red flags in most established security measure systems.  Very easy to detect imo, at the end of the day yes many games have hacks to some degree and there was no reason for the retaliator to try pick on WoW.  

Darkfall will have many hacks until they figure out what security measures they will use.  I bet dollars to donuts they have none at the moment. If they do it is probably some default standard out the box crap.

Hater much. 

 

Is this a late April fools joke? 

Serious though, how can they even fathom taking this direction with the game?  I hate Star Trek and know very little about it, but I can safely say they spent more time on their ships than on the planets.  Being aboard the ship and seeing the interior should be a big premise for this MMO.  There is so much you could do with ship interiors from the content perspective (co-op pve/pvp, guilds, housing, role-play and the list goes on... )

I honestly planned on giving this game a try but after hearing this tidbit! Well let's say im disheartened.  I am an avid MMO gamer, I do own a copy or two of every MMO to date and most likely will not bother installing this title. I will simply buy this game to put on the dusty shelf.

Sorry for the hardcore fans as this must leave you in shock and awe.

After I watched this I too gained all faith in funcom in highering a good team to take care of this massive task and bringing a completely new concept to life for those of us that are into this sort of thing. I believe everyone has heard of local folklore and legends since the begining of time.  Hell we read about them in history, it is myths, legends, and all that jazz.  I heard of the monster in the closet since I can remember ( I know it doesn't exist.... or does it!).  Anyways I have to go rub one off after watching those two clips, dark days are coming.

This game is most definently not the worst piece of crap but it is in a close second.

Warrior

Rogue

Druid

Mage

Shaman (these were one faction for a long time then given to both factions later on)

Paladin (see above)

Warlock

Priest

Huntard

Deathknight (Recently added)

So technically it only had 8 classes at launch.  If you look at many MMO's not many have more than 8 classes at launch as it becomes a huge balancing act and all there developement time becomes consumed.  They add it with time.  I think Bioware is going to deliver a stellar SW IP, even better than our beloved late SWG.

See you all where no man had gone before.

CrimeCraft
GDC 09: Walkthrough Part 1
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/47437.html

CrimeCraft
GDC 09: Walkthrough Part 2
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/47439.html

CrimeCraft
GDC 09: Walkthrough Part 3
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/47441.html

Game is looking great.

I would love to have one if you still have, thanks in advance for your time.

Originally posted by heartless

This is exactly what I was talking about. Aventurine does not have the capability to run a proper MMO and play with the big boys. They do want to charge like the big boys though.

If people were billed multiple times, I wonder if they'll ever get their money back?

Now the website is down again. Another DDoS attack? lol

I doubt it is a DDoS attack, those are easily preventable. Well, let me take that back. Unless you're some kid in your basement with a  webserver that is setup poorly then yes possibly a DOS attack.

Originally posted by Lobotomist

I love competitive games. Play many FPS from CS,Battlefields,COD,TF2 ... and for some reason i was suprisingly good in WAR.

So i can safely say that i dig PVP , and what i am going to say is not because i am not good at this play style.

 

I like competition. When in MMO i stand against 5 level lower player , naked , armed only with dagger. I do not engage. I dont see the point...its below me

Games you so greatly praise , are the games that are known for encouraging this - games that glorify this

Killing newbies as they exit tutorial zone , with your veteran character. Disgusting 

(this mentality will hence forth be called PK)

 

But well. I can see how this can appeal to certain sad personalities.

 

Lets continue

Somewhere along the line , above mentioned gameplay style got fused with SANDBOX. It probably happened during UO times. Than jumped right of to EVE (created by fans of UO)

Sandbox being great as it is attracted many willing players. That than got brutally pushed of by PK mentality.

Which left those people going for only other open possibility - theme park MMO.

 

And than it happened.

PK's reveled happily in sandbox game

while "Carebears" were forced to Theme park.

 

This followed with stupid conclusion :

Sandbox are only good for PK mentality

Carebears like only theme park.

 

 

Well , i got to tell you this

I am here to separate.

Darkfall is not sandbox. EVE is not sandbox.

They are PK games. This is their focus. And whoever tells you differently is misleading you.

 

If you are fan of sandbox games. Ignore this kind of games. You are only encouraging pushing SANDBOX into NICHE for sociopathic gamer.

And thats not fair for greatness that sandbox games could be , and should be.

 

Perhaps than in future someone will make sandbox game , that yes have PVP - but it is not just a shell that revolves and is solely made to cater to PK mentality

 

LOBO OUT 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Everyone is an in the closet sociologist.

I'm playing Left 4 Dead atm.

Originally posted by Rockybouba

2 weeks!!!!
let's celebrate!

www.youtube.com/watch

You don't honestly believe Aventurine, do you?

Originally posted by Devour

I mean, look on the Darkfall forums.

Community is everything in an MMO, and people complain about the Runescape and WoW communities being immature, from mere guilds like Goon Squad killing their own faction members, or at least aiding in killing them.

As far as I can tell, almost all the people waiting on Darkfall are Goon Squad wannabes, a bunch of vicious, idiotic bastards, arguing over scraps of information, and beating down newbies at every chance. I mean, they argue on when they CREATED THEIR ACCOUNTS.

Do you really want to play a game where there will be no way to leave the starting zones because a bunch of idiots who want to be Dreadlords are sitting outside? I don't. Especially if it's them and their fifty man army, getting ready to teabag anyone who comes into their grasp.

Really, look at the forums, the idea of a pre-Renaissance UO is nice, but it will never come to be, simply due to the huge amount of shitheads that've started coming into MMOs with the rest of the unwashed masses.

"OMFG NOOB U ONLY SIGNED UP TWO YEAHS AGO FFS IMMA GUNNA FIND U AND CORPSE CAMP U DEN TEABAG U WITH ALL MAH MAX LEVEL FRIENDS BECUZ I R SO LEET"

lmfao, good call.  This is exactly what it will be like.

Originally posted by Soki123

I personally can t wait for it. I really enjoyed COX games but really did miss the loot etc in it. Now with missions that conflict with the opposing side, thats awesome. I will try this at some point.

CoH and CoV both sucked imo.  To clunky.  However, I will never play a SoE product I don't care if they paid me.  

Originally posted by Mrbloodworth

Uh, Funcom is doing just fine, and your being a drama queen. Embrace the truth.

The self righteous nerdrage and false entitlement is a bit thick in this thread.

QFE, well put bruvah!

There is not even 5 better MMO's let alone 20.  Im not a WoW fanboi but im not going to sit here and look like an idiot in saying "WoW should be #21". 
  

Originally posted by Ozmodan

"And finally, the QA team had to play through the game at every single step and make sure it was all functioning as designed—despite all of the groups above tweaking with things constantly. That’s a huge job by itself."

If that is the way the QA team is testing this game, it is doomed from the start.  They either need to immediately fire the QA team lead because they are not doing their job or seriously restrain the lead designer from allowing this to occur.

That is not how you test software ever.  If they continue this way this game is going to be very similar to SWG when it released, a bug laden morass.

Says the guy named Ozmodan.

and comparing Biowares QA to SoE's QA is a blatant insult.